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jimxms
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19-04-2018, 01:16 AM
#11
Using a pad will give you more even pressure than a cloth and in many cases is less likely to cause damage than one of those cheap halfords polishing cloths for example. Just be sure to give it a quick spray of water/quick detailer to soften the surface.

I tend to use a microfiber pad spritzed with QD when polishing, and a damp sponge when waxing.
jimxms
19-04-2018, 01:16 AM #11

Using a pad will give you more even pressure than a cloth and in many cases is less likely to cause damage than one of those cheap halfords polishing cloths for example. Just be sure to give it a quick spray of water/quick detailer to soften the surface.

I tend to use a microfiber pad spritzed with QD when polishing, and a damp sponge when waxing.

parthiban
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19-04-2018, 01:26 AM
#12
jimxms Using a pad will give you more even pressure than a cloth and in many cases is less likely to cause damage than one of those cheap halfords polishing cloths for example. Just be sure to give it a quick spray of water/quick detailer to soften the surface.

I tend to use a microfiber pad spritzed with QD when polishing, and a damp sponge when waxing.

Hmmm starting to think I don't really know what I'm doing!

Firstly I have some microfibres that I bought from Halfords a while back, they weren't particularly cheap, but are they not good?

Secondly are you saying that you spray on quick detailer (what is that?) and then apply the polish?

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parthiban
19-04-2018, 01:26 AM #12

jimxms Using a pad will give you more even pressure than a cloth and in many cases is less likely to cause damage than one of those cheap halfords polishing cloths for example. Just be sure to give it a quick spray of water/quick detailer to soften the surface.

I tend to use a microfiber pad spritzed with QD when polishing, and a damp sponge when waxing.

Hmmm starting to think I don't really know what I'm doing!

Firstly I have some microfibres that I bought from Halfords a while back, they weren't particularly cheap, but are they not good?

Secondly are you saying that you spray on quick detailer (what is that?) and then apply the polish?


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jimxms
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19-04-2018, 01:37 AM
#13
parthiban Hmmm starting to think I don't really know what I'm doing!

Firstly I have some microfibres that I bought from Halfords a while back, they weren't particularly cheap, but are they not good?

Secondly are you saying that you spray on quick detailer (what is that?) and then apply the polish?

I'm probably overly an-al with my processes, but generally if you're polishing you'll want something that has a relatively small pile for applying the polish. Using a deep pile microfiber will be wasting a lot of polish without applying hardly any pressure to the paint.

The reason i say to avoid Halfords polishing cloths is because they have a tendency to scratch paint if you press too hard and they also leave cr@p loads of fibers everywhere. (this does not apply to their microfiber cloths)

When taking off the polish you will want the softest, deepest pile microfiber cloth you can find so it draws the dries polish away from the paint and into the fibers.

So to Apply polish: Use either one of those pads that you listed but lightly wet the pad first with either water or detailing spray. Or, use a microfiber cloth that has a very small pile so you dont waste polish.

To remove polish: Use the deepest pile, softest microfiber cloth you can find.

Also if you're left with a load of polishing dust once you've finished use a detailing spray to go over the car. This is fine for example: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/store...yId_165527
Edited 31-05-2011, 11:14 AM by jimxms.
jimxms
19-04-2018, 01:37 AM #13

parthiban Hmmm starting to think I don't really know what I'm doing!

Firstly I have some microfibres that I bought from Halfords a while back, they weren't particularly cheap, but are they not good?

Secondly are you saying that you spray on quick detailer (what is that?) and then apply the polish?

I'm probably overly an-al with my processes, but generally if you're polishing you'll want something that has a relatively small pile for applying the polish. Using a deep pile microfiber will be wasting a lot of polish without applying hardly any pressure to the paint.

The reason i say to avoid Halfords polishing cloths is because they have a tendency to scratch paint if you press too hard and they also leave cr@p loads of fibers everywhere. (this does not apply to their microfiber cloths)

When taking off the polish you will want the softest, deepest pile microfiber cloth you can find so it draws the dries polish away from the paint and into the fibers.

So to Apply polish: Use either one of those pads that you listed but lightly wet the pad first with either water or detailing spray. Or, use a microfiber cloth that has a very small pile so you dont waste polish.

To remove polish: Use the deepest pile, softest microfiber cloth you can find.

Also if you're left with a load of polishing dust once you've finished use a detailing spray to go over the car. This is fine for example: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/store...yId_165527

parthiban
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19-04-2018, 01:55 AM
#14
Thanks for the clarification, yep the microfibres I have are really thin, they don't have much of a pile. Might get one of those pads though if they might reduce the pain on my arm! Think I'll have to get a few really deep pile cloths though to take the polish off as I don't have any of those.

Other thing I want to try is claying as my paint felt really rough when I washed the car over the weekend, any recommendations for a first timer?

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parthiban
19-04-2018, 01:55 AM #14

Thanks for the clarification, yep the microfibres I have are really thin, they don't have much of a pile. Might get one of those pads though if they might reduce the pain on my arm! Think I'll have to get a few really deep pile cloths though to take the polish off as I don't have any of those.

Other thing I want to try is claying as my paint felt really rough when I washed the car over the weekend, any recommendations for a first timer?


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jimxms
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19-04-2018, 02:05 AM
#15
parthiban Thanks for the clarification, yep the microfibres I have are really thin, they don't have much of a pile. Might get one of those pads though if they might reduce the pain on my arm! Think I'll have to get a few really deep pile cloths though to take the polish off as I don't have any of those.

Other thing I want to try is claying as my paint felt really rough when I washed the car over the weekend, any recommendations for a first timer?

For claying I'd use one of the kits available from Halfords (Merguiars or Autoglym) as they have the softest clay which is least likely to scratch/marr the paintwork.

Basically give the car a GOOD wash, then soften up the clay by kneeding it between your fingers. Then press it so there is a quite flat surface to make contact with the cars paintwork.

With the kits you'll be given some clay lube/quick detailer. Spray this on both the clay and on the surface of your paint. Glide the clay bar over the paint stopping as soon as you feel any friction between the surfaces. Keep spraying the surfaces to make sure it glides over.

Check the clay regularly to see how dirty it is. Once it looks like its picked up a lot of contaminants (or you can see bits of grit embedded in the clay, fold the piece of clay in two and kneed it flat again so you have a clean clay surface to carry on working with.

Most import of all though is to stop as soon as you feel the clay bar dragging/catching/snagging on the surface. Because this is when you'll end up with marring.


Hope that makes sense?
Edited 31-05-2011, 11:41 AM by jimxms.
jimxms
19-04-2018, 02:05 AM #15

parthiban Thanks for the clarification, yep the microfibres I have are really thin, they don't have much of a pile. Might get one of those pads though if they might reduce the pain on my arm! Think I'll have to get a few really deep pile cloths though to take the polish off as I don't have any of those.

Other thing I want to try is claying as my paint felt really rough when I washed the car over the weekend, any recommendations for a first timer?

For claying I'd use one of the kits available from Halfords (Merguiars or Autoglym) as they have the softest clay which is least likely to scratch/marr the paintwork.

Basically give the car a GOOD wash, then soften up the clay by kneeding it between your fingers. Then press it so there is a quite flat surface to make contact with the cars paintwork.

With the kits you'll be given some clay lube/quick detailer. Spray this on both the clay and on the surface of your paint. Glide the clay bar over the paint stopping as soon as you feel any friction between the surfaces. Keep spraying the surfaces to make sure it glides over.

Check the clay regularly to see how dirty it is. Once it looks like its picked up a lot of contaminants (or you can see bits of grit embedded in the clay, fold the piece of clay in two and kneed it flat again so you have a clean clay surface to carry on working with.

Most import of all though is to stop as soon as you feel the clay bar dragging/catching/snagging on the surface. Because this is when you'll end up with marring.


Hope that makes sense?

parthiban
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19-04-2018, 02:22 AM
#16
Awesome, looking forward to give this a go, will get one of those clay kits. Noticed there are a lot of black spots on my wheels, would I use the clay bar on those as well (although maybe a different one to the one I use on the car?) or is there anything else I can do for those?

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parthiban
19-04-2018, 02:22 AM #16

Awesome, looking forward to give this a go, will get one of those clay kits. Noticed there are a lot of black spots on my wheels, would I use the clay bar on those as well (although maybe a different one to the one I use on the car?) or is there anything else I can do for those?


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jimxms
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19-04-2018, 02:26 AM
#17
You could try it on the wheels but I don't think it will work because most of those tar spots will probably be baked solid on. What you want in that case is some good wheel cleaner or a product called IronX
jimxms
19-04-2018, 02:26 AM #17

You could try it on the wheels but I don't think it will work because most of those tar spots will probably be baked solid on. What you want in that case is some good wheel cleaner or a product called IronX

Tango
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19-04-2018, 03:42 AM
#18
Quote:So to Apply polish: Use either one of those pads that you listed but lightly wet the pad first with either water or detailing spray. Or, use a microfiber cloth that has a very small pile so you dont waste polish.

Screwfix are selling 38cm x 38cm Microfibre cloths, £2.08 each or £20.80 for 50. I bought a couple to try, they are short pile and ideal for the application of polish. Screwfix say they can be washed around 400x but at less than 0.42p each you could afford to throw them away.

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Tango
19-04-2018, 03:42 AM #18

Quote:So to Apply polish: Use either one of those pads that you listed but lightly wet the pad first with either water or detailing spray. Or, use a microfiber cloth that has a very small pile so you dont waste polish.

Screwfix are selling 38cm x 38cm Microfibre cloths, £2.08 each or £20.80 for 50. I bought a couple to try, they are short pile and ideal for the application of polish. Screwfix say they can be washed around 400x but at less than 0.42p each you could afford to throw them away.


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

jimxms
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19-04-2018, 03:48 AM
#19
Tango Screwfix are selling 38cm x 38cm Microfibre cloths, £2.08 each or £20.80 for 50. I bought a couple to try, they are short pile and ideal for the application of polish. Screwfix say they can be washed around 400x but at less than 0.42p each you could afford to throw them away.

ooh sounds promising. Can you do the CD test with one of them for me? If they fair well I think I'll grab 50 as I'm always throwing them away.
jimxms
19-04-2018, 03:48 AM #19

Tango Screwfix are selling 38cm x 38cm Microfibre cloths, £2.08 each or £20.80 for 50. I bought a couple to try, they are short pile and ideal for the application of polish. Screwfix say they can be washed around 400x but at less than 0.42p each you could afford to throw them away.

ooh sounds promising. Can you do the CD test with one of them for me? If they fair well I think I'll grab 50 as I'm always throwing them away.

Tomo1978
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17-02-2019, 10:49 PM
#20
Now when you say swirl removal do you mean remove or mask? Using Black Hole & AG Super resin will only mask the swirls & next year you will get reversion as they degrade & swirls will come back. If you want removal you need to use a DA or rotary & cutting & polishing compounds. This will correct the paint rather than mask giving more permanent results. I thinks G3 have actually released a range you can use by hand but I'm not sure what they're going to be like. I've been using Menzerna compound on my Lexus then using BlackFire to finish (gloss enchancing polish & Wet Diamond sealant) & the results are amazing.
Tomo1978
17-02-2019, 10:49 PM #20

Now when you say swirl removal do you mean remove or mask? Using Black Hole & AG Super resin will only mask the swirls & next year you will get reversion as they degrade & swirls will come back. If you want removal you need to use a DA or rotary & cutting & polishing compounds. This will correct the paint rather than mask giving more permanent results. I thinks G3 have actually released a range you can use by hand but I'm not sure what they're going to be like. I've been using Menzerna compound on my Lexus then using BlackFire to finish (gloss enchancing polish & Wet Diamond sealant) & the results are amazing.

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