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steviewevie
Posting Freak
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14-07-2016, 02:03 AM
#11
Mr Mole Once it is welded then ground flush and repainted it would look like new and not Gash:Fish:
If done right :ohmy:

Do you fancy a trip to Switzerland ? Big Grin

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
14-07-2016, 02:03 AM #11

Mr Mole Once it is welded then ground flush and repainted it would look like new and not Gash:Fish:
If done right :ohmy:

Do you fancy a trip to Switzerland ? Big Grin


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Moley
Posting Freak
6,230
14-07-2016, 02:08 AM
#12
Thats a good idea Steve :lol:

Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
Moley
14-07-2016, 02:08 AM #12

Thats a good idea Steve :lol:


Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice

rob
Senior Member
720
14-07-2016, 02:54 AM
#13
Lexusboy Rob when you mod a car can this only be done in a main dealers in Switzerland?
Because my understanding is it the car that insured and not the driver.
So any items that have been added by the dealer are ok and anything you add will not be classed as legal after market items.
I sure you can put me right on this subject so i fully understand.

anything that is modded on the car such as engine, wheels brakes etc even brake hoses needs a certificate regardless of who fitted it. For the springs i had to get a certificate from eibach and then get a garage to stamp and say they have been fitted properly.

but once you know how the system works it can be worked to your advantage..... all they look for is a part number - you can change the part and put the same number on it for example.


yes its the car thats insured anyone can drive the car, strangly enough insurance for the IS is the same as an RS4, or a 911.
rob
14-07-2016, 02:54 AM #13

Lexusboy Rob when you mod a car can this only be done in a main dealers in Switzerland?
Because my understanding is it the car that insured and not the driver.
So any items that have been added by the dealer are ok and anything you add will not be classed as legal after market items.
I sure you can put me right on this subject so i fully understand.

anything that is modded on the car such as engine, wheels brakes etc even brake hoses needs a certificate regardless of who fitted it. For the springs i had to get a certificate from eibach and then get a garage to stamp and say they have been fitted properly.

but once you know how the system works it can be worked to your advantage..... all they look for is a part number - you can change the part and put the same number on it for example.


yes its the car thats insured anyone can drive the car, strangly enough insurance for the IS is the same as an RS4, or a 911.

rob
Senior Member
720
14-07-2016, 02:58 AM
#14
Mr Mole Once it is welded then ground flush and repainted it would look like new and not Gash:Fish:
If done right :ohmy:

true but just my own personal preference. someone i know is an aircraft approved welder so he can do it properly but for me its easier to just swap parts - less hassle
rob
14-07-2016, 02:58 AM #14

Mr Mole Once it is welded then ground flush and repainted it would look like new and not Gash:Fish:
If done right :ohmy:

true but just my own personal preference. someone i know is an aircraft approved welder so he can do it properly but for me its easier to just swap parts - less hassle

dimis
Posting Freak
3,795
14-07-2016, 04:00 AM
#15
Here is a review I found for the Hotchkis Anti Roll Bars, if you decide to go for aftermarket arb's:

Review: Hotchkis Sway Bars

The Hotchkis sways are, in the words of the immortal sauce-faced Chef Boyardee commercial kid, Beefy! As soon as you open the box, there is no doubt that these are some heavy duty bars. The quality and finish are exceptional, a shame really, as sways are rarely ever seen. In this first picture to the right, you can see the difference between the Hotchkis (red), TRD Race (yellow) and Stock (black) bars. The difference in size between the Stock and TRD/Hotchkis bars is obvious. Less obvious is the difference between the Hotckis and TRD. The TRD Yellows are smaller, but not by much. You can also see the end tab on the Hotchkis bar is more substantial.

[Image: 68d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...fronts.jpg]

The differences are even more pronounced in the rear bars, where the stock bar is pathetically anemic. In general terms, the stiffer the rear suspension is over the front, the more tendency a car will have to oversteer. (As a quick experiment, pump up the air pressure in your rear tires high, like 45psi, and drop you front tire pressures to around 30psi, turn off the traction control and take a drive...careful!) Since automobile manufacturers like to avoid oversteer at all costs, you can understand why the stock rear sway bar is so small. But an upgrade here is a very welcome one for enthusiast drivers as the most body roll, especially in a heavy sedan, occurs near the back of the vehicle (that would be the rear end wobble).

[Image: 67d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-three_rears.jpg]

One thing the Hotchkis bars are that the TRD bars are not is adjustable. In most cases, the more adjustable something on your suspension is the more rope you have to hang yourself with trying to find the best setup. That's just not fun. But you'll notice in the picture to the right that the softest (outermost) setting (the hole, dummy) on the Hotchkis bars is the same as the default setting on the TRD and stock bars. This kind of adjustment is clear and obvious, so it shouldn't hang too many people. I set my bars to the stiffest (innermost) initially.

[Image: 66d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...d_rear.jpg]

Now, on the rear, the stiffest (innermost) setting for the Hotchkis sway is the same position as the default TRD and stock setting. This allows you to dial OUT some of that tendency to oversteer if you find the bar is too stiff for your setup. Again, I have mine set to the stiffest setting initially.

The Hotchkis bars come with replacement bushings, new brackets for the bushings, mounting plates for the rear brackets (to help hold the larger bushings) and enough lubricant for all the bushings. The brackets included are designed so that the bushings can be re-lubed with the bars still installed (See the red cap?). This is a nice feature, though you'll need enough pressure when applying the lube to get it in there. The installation instructions are straightforward, well written and nicely illustrated. We will cover the installation of the bars in another article, but we did have one minor issue worth mentioning here. With the larger bushings and the backing plate, re-installing the stock bolts on the rear brackets can be difficult. Including longer bolts in the kit for the rear would be VERY helpful.

[Image: 64d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...talled.jpg]

By now you're probably thinking "Enough already, how do they feel?!". Well, that's easy to answer. They feel great. The most telling statement I can make is that I could immediately feel the difference these bars made on my car OVER the TRD race sways installed previously. The difference between the stock sways and the TRD sways is so obvious and positive that the IS should have come from the factory that way. I can't IMAGINE putting my car back on stock sways. It would feel like a boat caught in ocean waves.

So, if the TRD sways are a vast improvement over stock and I can notice the improvement these bars make over the TRD bars - What does that tell you? It tells me that these are some **** good sways. I can feel less wobble in the rear end. The recovery of the car during transitions of turning from one side to the other is much quicker. The car seems to plant itself better going into turns and returns with a much flatter attitude coming out. I have no problem recommending these sway bars to anyone who wants to improve the handling capabilities of their IS.

[Image: 65d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...talled.jpg]

Understand, there is no steady-state ride penalty involved when upgrading your sway bars. You won't get a stiffer or harsher ride like when changing your shocks or springs. Sway bars affect only the cars behavior during turns. If you hate the roll you feel when taking the twisties, it's time to invest in a new set of sway bars. And you can't go wrong choosing the Hotchkis bars. Highly recommended.

LEXUS IS200 - The most fun car to go sideways
dimis
14-07-2016, 04:00 AM #15

Here is a review I found for the Hotchkis Anti Roll Bars, if you decide to go for aftermarket arb's:

Review: Hotchkis Sway Bars

The Hotchkis sways are, in the words of the immortal sauce-faced Chef Boyardee commercial kid, Beefy! As soon as you open the box, there is no doubt that these are some heavy duty bars. The quality and finish are exceptional, a shame really, as sways are rarely ever seen. In this first picture to the right, you can see the difference between the Hotchkis (red), TRD Race (yellow) and Stock (black) bars. The difference in size between the Stock and TRD/Hotchkis bars is obvious. Less obvious is the difference between the Hotckis and TRD. The TRD Yellows are smaller, but not by much. You can also see the end tab on the Hotchkis bar is more substantial.

[Image: 68d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...fronts.jpg]

The differences are even more pronounced in the rear bars, where the stock bar is pathetically anemic. In general terms, the stiffer the rear suspension is over the front, the more tendency a car will have to oversteer. (As a quick experiment, pump up the air pressure in your rear tires high, like 45psi, and drop you front tire pressures to around 30psi, turn off the traction control and take a drive...careful!) Since automobile manufacturers like to avoid oversteer at all costs, you can understand why the stock rear sway bar is so small. But an upgrade here is a very welcome one for enthusiast drivers as the most body roll, especially in a heavy sedan, occurs near the back of the vehicle (that would be the rear end wobble).

[Image: 67d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-three_rears.jpg]

One thing the Hotchkis bars are that the TRD bars are not is adjustable. In most cases, the more adjustable something on your suspension is the more rope you have to hang yourself with trying to find the best setup. That's just not fun. But you'll notice in the picture to the right that the softest (outermost) setting (the hole, dummy) on the Hotchkis bars is the same as the default setting on the TRD and stock bars. This kind of adjustment is clear and obvious, so it shouldn't hang too many people. I set my bars to the stiffest (innermost) initially.

[Image: 66d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...d_rear.jpg]

Now, on the rear, the stiffest (innermost) setting for the Hotchkis sway is the same position as the default TRD and stock setting. This allows you to dial OUT some of that tendency to oversteer if you find the bar is too stiff for your setup. Again, I have mine set to the stiffest setting initially.

The Hotchkis bars come with replacement bushings, new brackets for the bushings, mounting plates for the rear brackets (to help hold the larger bushings) and enough lubricant for all the bushings. The brackets included are designed so that the bushings can be re-lubed with the bars still installed (See the red cap?). This is a nice feature, though you'll need enough pressure when applying the lube to get it in there. The installation instructions are straightforward, well written and nicely illustrated. We will cover the installation of the bars in another article, but we did have one minor issue worth mentioning here. With the larger bushings and the backing plate, re-installing the stock bolts on the rear brackets can be difficult. Including longer bolts in the kit for the rear would be VERY helpful.

[Image: 64d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...talled.jpg]

By now you're probably thinking "Enough already, how do they feel?!". Well, that's easy to answer. They feel great. The most telling statement I can make is that I could immediately feel the difference these bars made on my car OVER the TRD race sways installed previously. The difference between the stock sways and the TRD sways is so obvious and positive that the IS should have come from the factory that way. I can't IMAGINE putting my car back on stock sways. It would feel like a boat caught in ocean waves.

So, if the TRD sways are a vast improvement over stock and I can notice the improvement these bars make over the TRD bars - What does that tell you? It tells me that these are some **** good sways. I can feel less wobble in the rear end. The recovery of the car during transitions of turning from one side to the other is much quicker. The car seems to plant itself better going into turns and returns with a much flatter attitude coming out. I have no problem recommending these sway bars to anyone who wants to improve the handling capabilities of their IS.

[Image: 65d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...talled.jpg]

Understand, there is no steady-state ride penalty involved when upgrading your sway bars. You won't get a stiffer or harsher ride like when changing your shocks or springs. Sway bars affect only the cars behavior during turns. If you hate the roll you feel when taking the twisties, it's time to invest in a new set of sway bars. And you can't go wrong choosing the Hotchkis bars. Highly recommended.


LEXUS IS200 - The most fun car to go sideways

rob
Senior Member
720
14-07-2016, 04:03 AM
#16
eibach are the only aftermarket option for me
rob
14-07-2016, 04:03 AM #16

eibach are the only aftermarket option for me

dimis
Posting Freak
3,795
14-07-2016, 04:07 AM
#17
Ok mate, they are good as well. I just wanted to post the review so you can have an overall view before you decide what to go for.

LEXUS IS200 - The most fun car to go sideways
dimis
14-07-2016, 04:07 AM #17

Ok mate, they are good as well. I just wanted to post the review so you can have an overall view before you decide what to go for.


LEXUS IS200 - The most fun car to go sideways

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
14-07-2016, 04:09 AM
#18
dimis But you'll notice in the picture to the right that the softest (outermost) setting (the hole, dummy) on the Hotchkis bars is the same as the default setting on the TRD and stock bars. This kind of adjustment is clear and obvious, so it shouldn't hang too many people. I set my bars to the stiffest (innermost) initially.

[Image: 66d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...d_rear.jpg]

Now, on the rear, the stiffest (innermost) setting for the Hotchkis sway is the same position as the default TRD and stock setting. This allows you to dial OUT some of that tendency to oversteer if you find the bar is too stiff for your setup. Again, I have mine set to the stiffest setting initially.
I think the text and pictures are the wrong way round there. The picture seems to show that the stiffer of the two Hotchkis settings is in the same position as the TRD one (not the softest one as the text above the picture says).

Also, not sure it's true to say that this means the settings are "the same", they're just in the same place. The stiffness of the two bars might be different in terms of their construction.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
14-07-2016, 04:09 AM #18

dimis But you'll notice in the picture to the right that the softest (outermost) setting (the hole, dummy) on the Hotchkis bars is the same as the default setting on the TRD and stock bars. This kind of adjustment is clear and obvious, so it shouldn't hang too many people. I set my bars to the stiffest (innermost) initially.

[Image: 66d1094092839-review-hotchkis-sway-bars-...d_rear.jpg]

Now, on the rear, the stiffest (innermost) setting for the Hotchkis sway is the same position as the default TRD and stock setting. This allows you to dial OUT some of that tendency to oversteer if you find the bar is too stiff for your setup. Again, I have mine set to the stiffest setting initially.
I think the text and pictures are the wrong way round there. The picture seems to show that the stiffer of the two Hotchkis settings is in the same position as the TRD one (not the softest one as the text above the picture says).

Also, not sure it's true to say that this means the settings are "the same", they're just in the same place. The stiffness of the two bars might be different in terms of their construction.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

dimis
Posting Freak
3,795
14-07-2016, 04:14 AM
#19
Maybe you are right about the pic Stevie.

LEXUS IS200 - The most fun car to go sideways
dimis
14-07-2016, 04:14 AM #19

Maybe you are right about the pic Stevie.


LEXUS IS200 - The most fun car to go sideways

edeath
Senior Member
525
14-07-2016, 04:35 AM
#20
Dimitris - you will suffer some harshness to the ride such as when hitting potholes and hitting a patch of road where one side is higher than the other. This wil cause movement only on one sde of the car and will move the car pretty harshly. However this may be more a problem with our shocking roads where they get maintained by numpties if they get maintained at all.

Was Supercharged Racing Green IS200 Sport. Now APR Stage 1 Seat Leon Cupra (220 Bhp).
edeath
14-07-2016, 04:35 AM #20

Dimitris - you will suffer some harshness to the ride such as when hitting potholes and hitting a patch of road where one side is higher than the other. This wil cause movement only on one sde of the car and will move the car pretty harshly. However this may be more a problem with our shocking roads where they get maintained by numpties if they get maintained at all.


Was Supercharged Racing Green IS200 Sport. Now APR Stage 1 Seat Leon Cupra (220 Bhp).

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