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uncle bob
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25-02-2021, 01:39 AM
#11
Phil01 What a load of ****, Bob carry on using coppaslip, I use it as well on my studs and been doing it in the motor trade for umpteen years and never had a nut come loose due to incorrect torque, and at least you know the nut will undo at the side of the road when its pissing down with rain doing a wheel change

Although I'm no longer in the trade ,I used it for over 20 years in my job without any problems, and have used it for 10 years since on my own cars, I do respect other peoples opinions but I will carry on to use it ,thank you for backing me up on this debate Smile
uncle bob
25-02-2021, 01:39 AM #11

Phil01 What a load of ****, Bob carry on using coppaslip, I use it as well on my studs and been doing it in the motor trade for umpteen years and never had a nut come loose due to incorrect torque, and at least you know the nut will undo at the side of the road when its pissing down with rain doing a wheel change

Although I'm no longer in the trade ,I used it for over 20 years in my job without any problems, and have used it for 10 years since on my own cars, I do respect other peoples opinions but I will carry on to use it ,thank you for backing me up on this debate Smile

rob
Senior Member
720
25-02-2021, 08:28 AM
#12
who mentioned anything about nuts or bolts coming loose, I cant see that, did I miss it somewhere?

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rob
25-02-2021, 08:28 AM #12

who mentioned anything about nuts or bolts coming loose, I cant see that, did I miss it somewhere?

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Phil01
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27-02-2021, 05:29 PM
#13
Friction on the stud has nothing to do with it, it is the final clamping force that is what is reqd

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Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
Phil01
27-02-2021, 05:29 PM #13

Friction on the stud has nothing to do with it, it is the final clamping force that is what is reqd


1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,

rob
Senior Member
720
27-02-2021, 11:22 PM
#14
Im not trying to force or preach to anyone to change habits even If I think it is right or wrong.

Just people should be aware that lubricated studs or nuts will result in an over stretched stud or bolt compared to a dry stud or bolt for the same torque figure.

Phil how is the torque achieved. . What does the nut or bolt actually act against once it contacted the mounting face.. the threads, so if lubricated the force (torque) required to further turn the nut bolt is less. More turns more stretch, we don't measure clamping force, if we did then its all moot.

If you see what I mean?

I work all day with critical torques some down to a 0.10% tolerance . The differences in stretch between lubed and non lubed can be measured.


Anyway said my bit so have a nice sunny day in your part of the world where ever that may be. Wink


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rob
27-02-2021, 11:22 PM #14

Im not trying to force or preach to anyone to change habits even If I think it is right or wrong.

Just people should be aware that lubricated studs or nuts will result in an over stretched stud or bolt compared to a dry stud or bolt for the same torque figure.

Phil how is the torque achieved. . What does the nut or bolt actually act against once it contacted the mounting face.. the threads, so if lubricated the force (torque) required to further turn the nut bolt is less. More turns more stretch, we don't measure clamping force, if we did then its all moot.

If you see what I mean?

I work all day with critical torques some down to a 0.10% tolerance . The differences in stretch between lubed and non lubed can be measured.


Anyway said my bit so have a nice sunny day in your part of the world where ever that may be. Wink


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Phil01
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2,004
01-03-2021, 04:11 AM
#15
Actually the stud/nut is not that critical unless you are a baboon, it can be anywhere from the force of a woman using the supplied wheel nut wrench with such a low leverage ratio right up to a monster idiot using a breaker bar.

You too Rob, have a great day mate

1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
Phil01
01-03-2021, 04:11 AM #15

Actually the stud/nut is not that critical unless you are a baboon, it can be anywhere from the force of a woman using the supplied wheel nut wrench with such a low leverage ratio right up to a monster idiot using a breaker bar.

You too Rob, have a great day mate


1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,

rob
Senior Member
720
01-03-2021, 10:23 AM
#16
24c today meant to be 26 tomorrow bbq primed and ready ! Big Grin:thumbup:

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rob
01-03-2021, 10:23 AM #16

24c today meant to be 26 tomorrow bbq primed and ready ! Big Grin:thumbup:

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