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Refurbing Brembo Callipers

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D6NGR..
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07-03-2018, 05:09 PM
#11
Are these the same brembo's that almost finshed has on his is200 i remember when i spoke to wayne a couple of months ago he was offering me a brembo conversion.
D6NGR..
07-03-2018, 05:09 PM #11

Are these the same brembo's that almost finshed has on his is200 i remember when i spoke to wayne a couple of months ago he was offering me a brembo conversion.

jimxms
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07-03-2018, 10:59 PM
#12
I recently read up a lot about aftermarket brakes. I think it was on Stoptec's site (or someone similar). Its quite worrying to hear an aftermarket brake manufacturer tell you that BBK's very rarely improve stopping distances? In fact, most of the time they get worse or cause unnecessary strain on the ABS system due to the difference in brake line pressure.


EDIT: here's one of the articles: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_abs...kits.shtml
jimxms
07-03-2018, 10:59 PM #12

I recently read up a lot about aftermarket brakes. I think it was on Stoptec's site (or someone similar). Its quite worrying to hear an aftermarket brake manufacturer tell you that BBK's very rarely improve stopping distances? In fact, most of the time they get worse or cause unnecessary strain on the ABS system due to the difference in brake line pressure.


EDIT: here's one of the articles: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_abs...kits.shtml

toxo
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08-03-2018, 12:48 AM
#13
jimxms I recently read up a lot about aftermarket brakes. I think it was on Stoptec's site (or someone similar). Its quite worrying to hear an aftermarket brake manufacturer tell you that BBK's very rarely improve stopping distances? In fact, most of the time they get worse or cause unnecessary strain on the ABS system due to the difference in brake line pressure.


EDIT: here's one of the articles: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_abs...kits.shtml

Yeah that kind of thing doesn't surprise me. You have to remember that a true brake conversion kit will comprise 4 calipers, a suitably sized master cylinder, etc etc. If you just swap on the front brakes you screw up the brake bias, you change the amount of fluid & pressure required to excert the same amount of pressure onto the pads and all sorts. The volume of fluid required to displace the brake pistons enough for efficient braking can vary by miles. There's a guy on another forum I'm on who works for a BBK manufacturer and the amount of data they have to have about the car to correctly size a kit is nuts.

A lot of what's said in your link only applies to cars with ABS though (which is the work of the devil).
toxo
08-03-2018, 12:48 AM #13

jimxms I recently read up a lot about aftermarket brakes. I think it was on Stoptec's site (or someone similar). Its quite worrying to hear an aftermarket brake manufacturer tell you that BBK's very rarely improve stopping distances? In fact, most of the time they get worse or cause unnecessary strain on the ABS system due to the difference in brake line pressure.


EDIT: here's one of the articles: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_abs...kits.shtml

Yeah that kind of thing doesn't surprise me. You have to remember that a true brake conversion kit will comprise 4 calipers, a suitably sized master cylinder, etc etc. If you just swap on the front brakes you screw up the brake bias, you change the amount of fluid & pressure required to excert the same amount of pressure onto the pads and all sorts. The volume of fluid required to displace the brake pistons enough for efficient braking can vary by miles. There's a guy on another forum I'm on who works for a BBK manufacturer and the amount of data they have to have about the car to correctly size a kit is nuts.

A lot of what's said in your link only applies to cars with ABS though (which is the work of the devil).

jimxms
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08-03-2018, 12:58 AM
#14
toxo Yeah that kind of thing doesn't surprise me. You have to remember that a true brake conversion kit will comprise 4 calipers, a suitably sized master cylinder, etc etc. If you just swap on the front brakes you screw up the brake bias, you change the amount of fluid & pressure required to excert the same amount of pressure onto the pads and all sorts. The volume of fluid required to displace the brake pistons enough for efficient braking can vary by miles. There's a guy on another forum I'm on who works for a BBK manufacturer and the amount of data they have to have about the car to correctly size a kit is nuts.

A lot of what's said in your link only applies to cars with ABS though (which is the work of the devil).

Aye. There are a few other good articles on that site which pretty much mirror what you say with regards to brake bias and how you can completely mess up the handling of a car by simply swapping in BBK's.

Its an interesting read for anyone who has the time, and not too technical for a newb like me to understand.

In many cases it seems that the best recommendation for improving stopping power is to simply run the best tyres you can and be done with it. Only if you're going to be tracking the car or regularly slowing down from silly speeds should you invest in a properly configured BBK specific for the car model.
jimxms
08-03-2018, 12:58 AM #14

toxo Yeah that kind of thing doesn't surprise me. You have to remember that a true brake conversion kit will comprise 4 calipers, a suitably sized master cylinder, etc etc. If you just swap on the front brakes you screw up the brake bias, you change the amount of fluid & pressure required to excert the same amount of pressure onto the pads and all sorts. The volume of fluid required to displace the brake pistons enough for efficient braking can vary by miles. There's a guy on another forum I'm on who works for a BBK manufacturer and the amount of data they have to have about the car to correctly size a kit is nuts.

A lot of what's said in your link only applies to cars with ABS though (which is the work of the devil).

Aye. There are a few other good articles on that site which pretty much mirror what you say with regards to brake bias and how you can completely mess up the handling of a car by simply swapping in BBK's.

Its an interesting read for anyone who has the time, and not too technical for a newb like me to understand.

In many cases it seems that the best recommendation for improving stopping power is to simply run the best tyres you can and be done with it. Only if you're going to be tracking the car or regularly slowing down from silly speeds should you invest in a properly configured BBK specific for the car model.

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