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toxo
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16-12-2017, 10:08 AM
#1
I have a selection of old Dell servers that I've built up over the years for testing network stuff on. This one is currently my W7 media pc. They are simply taking up too much room so if anyone wants to teach themselves how proper servers go together, learn enterprise systems management software (in this case Dell OpenManage), needs a testbed for playing with server virtualisation (VMWare ESX, XenEnterprise etc work on all of these) or mess around with Active Directory etc on a budget then make me an offer.

This ad is for:

1 x Poweredge 1400SC in good working condition

Twin PIII Socket 1.4ghz (not dual core, dual CPU)
2GB PC133 RAM in 4x512MB DIMMS
Dell PERC 3/DC 128MB hardware RAID with battery backup (this is a dual channel 64bit PCIX card)
I *think* it has 4x18.2GB non SCA SCSI drives but I'm only using 2 of them as the other 2 don't appear to work. Currently configured in RAID0 as a 36GB span.
Single PSU
It has onboard USB1 so I have added a PCI USB2 card to it for using removable drives. This USB2 card will be included with the computer
IDE DVDRW
The usual onboard stuff for a server, 100mbit Intel NIC, USB1 ports, PS/2 ports, ATI Rage graphics.

This is currently running Windows 7 flawlessly as my media PC. At the moment it's got an IDE RAID card in it and a 500gb IDE drive too (pictured below the DVD drive) as well as the TV card but they're not included.

[Image: 1400server1Front.jpg]

[Image: 1400server1Side.jpg]

[Image: 1400server1Inside.jpg]

[Image: 1400scW7Properties.jpg]

[Image: 1400scW7DeviceManager.jpg]

I know this doesn't sound like much of a spec, but it really is faster than the sum of its parts. PIII chips are way better than P4s were (a P3 overclocked to the same rate as a P4 outperforms it by miles) and having two full CPUs (so double the I/O, double the L1 L2 and L3 cache etc) makes much more difference than clock speed. It's a lot quicker to use than my test PC at work which is a single core 2.8GHz P4. This is born out somewhat by the fact that it runs Windows 7 without issue, an operating system which is 7 years newer than the hardware! The only reason a system rating isn't available above is due to a lack of W7 display drivers for the onboard ATI card - the generic drivers work great but it won't benchmark with them.

1 x Poweredge 1400SC spare chassis, kept as spare parts for above unit. Is basically a spare motherboard, spare case, spare PSU. Has no CPUs or RAM or hard drives, but does have a Dell PERC 3/SC (single channel version of above RAID card) with 64mb cache. Would be bundled in free with the above server as spare parts are hard to find for them.

They are the MK2 version of the PE1400SC, which means they take socket not slot CPUs (you can spot the difference as the holes in the front are round not square).

See http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe1400sc/ for more info.

£50 collected.
Edited 29-01-2011, 11:44 PM by toxo.
toxo
16-12-2017, 10:08 AM #1

I have a selection of old Dell servers that I've built up over the years for testing network stuff on. This one is currently my W7 media pc. They are simply taking up too much room so if anyone wants to teach themselves how proper servers go together, learn enterprise systems management software (in this case Dell OpenManage), needs a testbed for playing with server virtualisation (VMWare ESX, XenEnterprise etc work on all of these) or mess around with Active Directory etc on a budget then make me an offer.

This ad is for:

1 x Poweredge 1400SC in good working condition

Twin PIII Socket 1.4ghz (not dual core, dual CPU)
2GB PC133 RAM in 4x512MB DIMMS
Dell PERC 3/DC 128MB hardware RAID with battery backup (this is a dual channel 64bit PCIX card)
I *think* it has 4x18.2GB non SCA SCSI drives but I'm only using 2 of them as the other 2 don't appear to work. Currently configured in RAID0 as a 36GB span.
Single PSU
It has onboard USB1 so I have added a PCI USB2 card to it for using removable drives. This USB2 card will be included with the computer
IDE DVDRW
The usual onboard stuff for a server, 100mbit Intel NIC, USB1 ports, PS/2 ports, ATI Rage graphics.

This is currently running Windows 7 flawlessly as my media PC. At the moment it's got an IDE RAID card in it and a 500gb IDE drive too (pictured below the DVD drive) as well as the TV card but they're not included.

[Image: 1400server1Front.jpg]

[Image: 1400server1Side.jpg]

[Image: 1400server1Inside.jpg]

[Image: 1400scW7Properties.jpg]

[Image: 1400scW7DeviceManager.jpg]

I know this doesn't sound like much of a spec, but it really is faster than the sum of its parts. PIII chips are way better than P4s were (a P3 overclocked to the same rate as a P4 outperforms it by miles) and having two full CPUs (so double the I/O, double the L1 L2 and L3 cache etc) makes much more difference than clock speed. It's a lot quicker to use than my test PC at work which is a single core 2.8GHz P4. This is born out somewhat by the fact that it runs Windows 7 without issue, an operating system which is 7 years newer than the hardware! The only reason a system rating isn't available above is due to a lack of W7 display drivers for the onboard ATI card - the generic drivers work great but it won't benchmark with them.

1 x Poweredge 1400SC spare chassis, kept as spare parts for above unit. Is basically a spare motherboard, spare case, spare PSU. Has no CPUs or RAM or hard drives, but does have a Dell PERC 3/SC (single channel version of above RAID card) with 64mb cache. Would be bundled in free with the above server as spare parts are hard to find for them.

They are the MK2 version of the PE1400SC, which means they take socket not slot CPUs (you can spot the difference as the holes in the front are round not square).

See http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe1400sc/ for more info.

£50 collected.

Rabster
Posting Freak
10,234
16-12-2017, 11:51 AM
#2
dont suppose one of them could be set up with Small buisness server could it ?
Rabster
16-12-2017, 11:51 AM #2

dont suppose one of them could be set up with Small buisness server could it ?

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
16-12-2017, 11:58 AM
#3
They'd probably struggle with 2011 to be honest, don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to do 2008 or 2003 though, in a test environment. You need storage for Exchange, though.
toxo
16-12-2017, 11:58 AM #3

They'd probably struggle with 2011 to be honest, don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to do 2008 or 2003 though, in a test environment. You need storage for Exchange, though.

reganlives
Posting Freak
1,230
16-12-2017, 12:02 PM
#4
ooh now this is interesting especially as i work in it. How much would u want for the best server?
reganlives
16-12-2017, 12:02 PM #4

ooh now this is interesting especially as i work in it. How much would u want for the best server?

Rabster
Posting Freak
10,234
16-12-2017, 12:10 PM
#5
dont suppose you have 2003 that you could pre load :p
Rabster
16-12-2017, 12:10 PM #5

dont suppose you have 2003 that you could pre load :p

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
16-12-2017, 12:44 PM
#6
Pick one (or two!), there isn't a best server lol. Ideally I'd like to get rid of the groups of the same models together (i.e. the 4 2400s together and the 1 and a half 1400SCs together).

I have updated the first post with images.
toxo
16-12-2017, 12:44 PM #6

Pick one (or two!), there isn't a best server lol. Ideally I'd like to get rid of the groups of the same models together (i.e. the 4 2400s together and the 1 and a half 1400SCs together).

I have updated the first post with images.

toxo
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4,843
16-12-2017, 01:45 PM
#7
toxo I have updated the first post with images.

And again!
toxo
16-12-2017, 01:45 PM #7

toxo I have updated the first post with images.

And again!

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
17-12-2017, 04:12 PM
#8
I'm gonna firm up the specs of the 2400s this weekend so I have some idea of what I actually have for sale :lol:
toxo
17-12-2017, 04:12 PM #8

I'm gonna firm up the specs of the 2400s this weekend so I have some idea of what I actually have for sale :lol:

toxo
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4,843
18-12-2017, 03:06 PM
#9
I've split the ad now into one thread for the 1400SC and one for the 4 2400s.
toxo
18-12-2017, 03:06 PM #9

I've split the ad now into one thread for the 1400SC and one for the 4 2400s.

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
20-12-2017, 02:43 AM
#10
Right, I got asked by someone on another forum what you could do about storage in this server...

I was going to buy a SATA RAID card like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/220729758990

for this server, and fill it with cheap 2TB drives (they are about £50 each now and drive quality isn't important with RAID as you have fault tolerance). You could get 6 drives in the server without losing the DVDRW (there are 2 5.25" -> 3.5" adaptors supplied - in the photos 1 is in use by the floppy drive and 1 by my 500GB hard drive). So you could buy the server for £50, the RAID card linked for £90 and then 6 2TB SATA drives for £300. Result = Twin CPU fault redundant fileserver with 10TB of storage, for ~£440. (10TB would be in RAID5 because you lose the capacity of 1 drive to pairity. Personally I'd make it an 8TB RAID5 with a hotspare, or RAID6 if the card supports it. You could make it a 12TB SPAN though if you didn't want fault tolerance!).

However instead I got a decent deal on an HP Proliant Microserver so I am now using that instead, hence this being available.

Edit: If no one buys it I might just do this anyway and then sell it for £550! lol
Edited 31-01-2011, 12:23 PM by toxo.
toxo
20-12-2017, 02:43 AM #10

Right, I got asked by someone on another forum what you could do about storage in this server...

I was going to buy a SATA RAID card like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/220729758990

for this server, and fill it with cheap 2TB drives (they are about £50 each now and drive quality isn't important with RAID as you have fault tolerance). You could get 6 drives in the server without losing the DVDRW (there are 2 5.25" -> 3.5" adaptors supplied - in the photos 1 is in use by the floppy drive and 1 by my 500GB hard drive). So you could buy the server for £50, the RAID card linked for £90 and then 6 2TB SATA drives for £300. Result = Twin CPU fault redundant fileserver with 10TB of storage, for ~£440. (10TB would be in RAID5 because you lose the capacity of 1 drive to pairity. Personally I'd make it an 8TB RAID5 with a hotspare, or RAID6 if the card supports it. You could make it a 12TB SPAN though if you didn't want fault tolerance!).

However instead I got a decent deal on an HP Proliant Microserver so I am now using that instead, hence this being available.

Edit: If no one buys it I might just do this anyway and then sell it for £550! lol

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