Changing the HID bulbs
Changing the HID bulbs
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So I fitted then today whilst I had the grill off and the engine covers to one side, removed the air box to get to the N/S headlamp and the washer pipe to gain access to the O/S headlamp. Fitted them and they worked great, nice and bright and was well happy. Put the car back together, fitted my new number plates, scrubbed up and was going to go for a drive to test.
I got back into the car, started her up and immediately got a fault message "Check VSC", engine safety light came on and she went into safe mode. Well the only thing I had changed was the bulbs and I needed the car for work tomorrow morning, so I got the tools out again and swopped back over to the OEM bulbs and crossed my fingers. Fortunately that cured the fault and she drove okay.
Now I didn't have time to refit the new 600K bulbs and see if I'd done something stupid as I didn't want to risk not having the car working tomorrow, but I definately will try again next week.
I've contacted the seller who says he has not had this happen before and that he will check out the error message so he's being quite helpful. Has anyone else come across anything like this? Any ideas?
Keith
After having the 600K HIDs fitted to the IS200 I kind of missed the bright white light that they gave off compared to the standard OEM 430K fitted to the IS250. So I looked around and went for a pair of 600K from a company on Ebay called Xenonplanet.com who have a place over here in Hemel Hampstead and also the US. They were £65 so not the cheapest by a long shot.
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So I fitted then today whilst I had the grill off and the engine covers to one side, removed the air box to get to the N/S headlamp and the washer pipe to gain access to the O/S headlamp. Fitted them and they worked great, nice and bright and was well happy. Put the car back together, fitted my new number plates, scrubbed up and was going to go for a drive to test.
I got back into the car, started her up and immediately got a fault message "Check VSC", engine safety light came on and she went into safe mode. Well the only thing I had changed was the bulbs and I needed the car for work tomorrow morning, so I got the tools out again and swopped back over to the OEM bulbs and crossed my fingers. Fortunately that cured the fault and she drove okay.
Now I didn't have time to refit the new 600K bulbs and see if I'd done something stupid as I didn't want to risk not having the car working tomorrow, but I definately will try again next week.
I've contacted the seller who says he has not had this happen before and that he will check out the error message so he's being quite helpful. Has anyone else come across anything like this? Any ideas?
Keith
The system seems to be quite sensitive and I also remember threads that mentioned there is only 1 brand of high enough quality to replace the originals with - unfortunately I can't remember what it was but have a search for it.
Here's the vid I mentioned:
[youtube]MLHWgAmx3Iw[/youtube]
2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
There was a recent thread over the other side, albeit about fitting an aftermarket HID kit to an IS250 without OEM HIDs and how it can potentially cause electrical problems (and there was a video with the power steering gone crazy)
The system seems to be quite sensitive and I also remember threads that mentioned there is only 1 brand of high enough quality to replace the originals with - unfortunately I can't remember what it was but have a search for it.
Here's the vid I mentioned:
[youtube]MLHWgAmx3Iw[/youtube]
2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
Cous3 After having the 600K HIDs fitted to the IS200 I kind of missed the bright white light that they gave off compared to the standard OEM 430K fitted to the IS250. So I looked around and went for a pair of 600K from a company on Ebay called Xenonplanet.com who have a place over here in Hemel Hampstead and also the US. They were £65 so not the cheapest by a long shot.
So I fitted then today whilst I had the grill off and the engine covers to one side, removed the air box to get to the N/S headlamp and the washer pipe to gain access to the O/S headlamp. Fitted them and they worked great, nice and bright and was well happy. Put the car back together, fitted my new number plates, scrubbed up and was going to go for a drive to test.
I got back into the car, started her up and immediately got a fault message "Check VSC", engine safety light came on and she went into safe mode. Well the only thing I had changed was the bulbs and I needed the car for work tomorrow morning, so I got the tools out again and swopped back over to the OEM bulbs and crossed my fingers. Fortunately that cured the fault and she drove okay.
Now I didn't have time to refit the new 600K bulbs and see if I'd done something stupid as I didn't want to risk not having the car working tomorrow, but I definately will try again next week.
I've contacted the seller who says he has not had this happen before and that he will check out the error message so he's being quite helpful. Has anyone else come across anything like this? Any ideas?
Keith
Lexus have probably optimised the system for the 430K D4S HIDS fitted as standard AFS in the 250 SE-L. Fitting 600K D4S bulbs (or greater) triggers the VSC warning. Don't know if different rated ballasts would prevent it? Can't imagine the wiring harness would be at risk from the additional load.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cous3 After having the 600K HIDs fitted to the IS200 I kind of missed the bright white light that they gave off compared to the standard OEM 430K fitted to the IS250. So I looked around and went for a pair of 600K from a company on Ebay called Xenonplanet.com who have a place over here in Hemel Hampstead and also the US. They were £65 so not the cheapest by a long shot.
So I fitted then today whilst I had the grill off and the engine covers to one side, removed the air box to get to the N/S headlamp and the washer pipe to gain access to the O/S headlamp. Fitted them and they worked great, nice and bright and was well happy. Put the car back together, fitted my new number plates, scrubbed up and was going to go for a drive to test.
I got back into the car, started her up and immediately got a fault message "Check VSC", engine safety light came on and she went into safe mode. Well the only thing I had changed was the bulbs and I needed the car for work tomorrow morning, so I got the tools out again and swopped back over to the OEM bulbs and crossed my fingers. Fortunately that cured the fault and she drove okay.
Now I didn't have time to refit the new 600K bulbs and see if I'd done something stupid as I didn't want to risk not having the car working tomorrow, but I definately will try again next week.
I've contacted the seller who says he has not had this happen before and that he will check out the error message so he's being quite helpful. Has anyone else come across anything like this? Any ideas?
Keith
Lexus have probably optimised the system for the 430K D4S HIDS fitted as standard AFS in the 250 SE-L. Fitting 600K D4S bulbs (or greater) triggers the VSC warning. Don't know if different rated ballasts would prevent it? Can't imagine the wiring harness would be at risk from the additional load.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango Lexus have probably optimised the system for the 430K D4S HIDS fitted as standard AFS in the 250 SE-L. Fitting 600K D4S bulbs (or greater) triggers the VSC warning. Don't know if different rated ballasts would prevent it? Can't imagine the wiring harness would be at risk from the additional load.
Just had a quick search and the member I was thinking of was ahmed24 and he has upgraded his to 6000K. Actually mentions that the only reliable bulbs other than the OEM Philips is a Japanese brand called Garax.
2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
Tango Lexus have probably optimised the system for the 430K D4S HIDS fitted as standard AFS in the 250 SE-L. Fitting 600K D4S bulbs (or greater) triggers the VSC warning. Don't know if different rated ballasts would prevent it? Can't imagine the wiring harness would be at risk from the additional load.
Just had a quick search and the member I was thinking of was ahmed24 and he has upgraded his to 6000K. Actually mentions that the only reliable bulbs other than the OEM Philips is a Japanese brand called Garax.
2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
There were a quite few incidencies reported in the USA where fitting HID conversions to OEM halogen equipped cars caused electrical interference with the EPS system as shown in the video. I tend to steer clear of electrical mods to modern cars that have 'fly by wire' technology, the early recall to change the steering racks was enough to cast doubt in my mind about relying on an electrical system for steering.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Took out the OEM 430K bulbs and put in the Garax.......same problem, the bulbs light up and worked but "check VSC" and safety mode plus traction control warning light. So I put the OEM back in and now THEY give the warning? I figured it had to be the fitting and not the bulbs as the OEM had worked before the swop. So I started again, double checking the way the bulbs fitted and exactly how the caps fitted onto the OEM bulbs, this time they worked properly again, with no fault showing. I swopped just the N/S to a Garax and tried again so I had 1 OEM and 1 Garax (not lighting the bulbs but just turning on the ignition) and hey presto NO fault, so I had narrowed it down to the O/S bulb. I swopped that for a Garax too and the fault reoccured, but at least I knew where it was going wrong.
On closer inspection it appears that the O/S bulb fitting has a copper type connection that must press against the cap when the cap is fitted to the bulb, and I looks like I didn't have the cap fitted 100% correctly, although it felt right and the bulbs still light up? Anyway the N/S bulb fitting did not appear to have the same copper type connection (bit like the type of copper fitting inside a torch switch if you've ever taken a torch apart lol). They work great and look the mutz nutz, well worth the extended work to sort them out.
Keith
Okay I've sorted the HID problem. I bought some Garax HIDs 600K which with shipping came to £67, so £2 more than the other bulbs I had.
Took out the OEM 430K bulbs and put in the Garax.......same problem, the bulbs light up and worked but "check VSC" and safety mode plus traction control warning light. So I put the OEM back in and now THEY give the warning? I figured it had to be the fitting and not the bulbs as the OEM had worked before the swop. So I started again, double checking the way the bulbs fitted and exactly how the caps fitted onto the OEM bulbs, this time they worked properly again, with no fault showing. I swopped just the N/S to a Garax and tried again so I had 1 OEM and 1 Garax (not lighting the bulbs but just turning on the ignition) and hey presto NO fault, so I had narrowed it down to the O/S bulb. I swopped that for a Garax too and the fault reoccured, but at least I knew where it was going wrong.
On closer inspection it appears that the O/S bulb fitting has a copper type connection that must press against the cap when the cap is fitted to the bulb, and I looks like I didn't have the cap fitted 100% correctly, although it felt right and the bulbs still light up? Anyway the N/S bulb fitting did not appear to have the same copper type connection (bit like the type of copper fitting inside a torch switch if you've ever taken a torch apart lol). They work great and look the mutz nutz, well worth the extended work to sort them out.
Keith
2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
How bizarre? Glad you got it sorted, strange how such a small problem with a bulb triggered a warning for the VSC system.
2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
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