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240V A/C to 12V D/C converter

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Tango
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24-03-2018, 10:19 AM
#1
Do we have any electronics gurus in the club? I have a stairway in the garage that joins the 'attic' room to the bottom floor. I have made it retractable so it stows away between the joists and frees up more space in the garage. It's solid wood construction and fairly heavy so it's pulled up and let down with a 12V DC 1hp winch, currently connected to a heavy duty car battery.

Question: Is there a 240V to 12V adapter available that could replace the battery? I've been looking on the 'net but there doesn't appear to be anything available that would cope with the amperage.

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Tango
24-03-2018, 10:19 AM #1

Do we have any electronics gurus in the club? I have a stairway in the garage that joins the 'attic' room to the bottom floor. I have made it retractable so it stows away between the joists and frees up more space in the garage. It's solid wood construction and fairly heavy so it's pulled up and let down with a 12V DC 1hp winch, currently connected to a heavy duty car battery.

Question: Is there a 240V to 12V adapter available that could replace the battery? I've been looking on the 'net but there doesn't appear to be anything available that would cope with the amperage.


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

Rabster
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24-03-2018, 10:31 AM
#2
how many amps does it pull ?



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Rabster
24-03-2018, 10:31 AM #2

how many amps does it pull ?




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jimxms
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24-03-2018, 10:48 AM
#3
Computer PSU would be my first port of call. Depending on what wattage on you buy you can get anything from a 10A 12v rail up to 100A.

Probably not the cheapest method, but certainly reliable and easy to install.
jimxms
24-03-2018, 10:48 AM #3

Computer PSU would be my first port of call. Depending on what wattage on you buy you can get anything from a 10A 12v rail up to 100A.

Probably not the cheapest method, but certainly reliable and easy to install.

Tango
Senior Member
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24-03-2018, 11:21 AM
#4
jimxms Computer PSU would be my first port of call. Depending on what wattage on you buy you can get anything from a 10A 12v rail up to 100A.

Probably not the cheapest method, but certainly reliable and easy to install.

Just happen to have a spare PSU, but I thought the amperage may be too low as the battery is a 400 amp. Don't know what the winch pulls, just that it's a 0.75 kW rated motor (1 hp).

IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango
24-03-2018, 11:21 AM #4

jimxms Computer PSU would be my first port of call. Depending on what wattage on you buy you can get anything from a 10A 12v rail up to 100A.

Probably not the cheapest method, but certainly reliable and easy to install.

Just happen to have a spare PSU, but I thought the amperage may be too low as the battery is a 400 amp. Don't know what the winch pulls, just that it's a 0.75 kW rated motor (1 hp).


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Rabster
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24-03-2018, 11:26 AM
#5
can you put a multimeter in line with it and set it to amps and see what it draws....



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Rabster
24-03-2018, 11:26 AM #5

can you put a multimeter in line with it and set it to amps and see what it draws....




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jimxms
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24-03-2018, 12:09 PM
#6
Tango Just happen to have a spare PSU, but I thought the amperage may be too low as the battery is a 400 amp. Don't know what the winch pulls, just that it's a 0.75 kW rated motor (1 hp).

So at the most we're probably looking at 62A.

But as Rabs says its probably best to get an accurate measurement as it could make the difference between a cheap £40 500w PSU, or a beefy 800w £150+ PSU.
jimxms
24-03-2018, 12:09 PM #6

Tango Just happen to have a spare PSU, but I thought the amperage may be too low as the battery is a 400 amp. Don't know what the winch pulls, just that it's a 0.75 kW rated motor (1 hp).

So at the most we're probably looking at 62A.

But as Rabs says its probably best to get an accurate measurement as it could make the difference between a cheap £40 500w PSU, or a beefy 800w £150+ PSU.

toxo
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24-03-2018, 12:13 PM
#7
Yeah, you definitely need to know what size you need.

A note on the computer PSU idea - I used to use this for testing car amplifiers I was repairing etc however a lot of computer power supplies use the 5V feed to stabilise the 12V feed. So you have to put something on it to create a bit of voltage draw on the 5V rail as well or the 12V will be all over the place.

I've got bench supplies for things up to 5A etc but I think they're probably too small for what you're after.
toxo
24-03-2018, 12:13 PM #7

Yeah, you definitely need to know what size you need.

A note on the computer PSU idea - I used to use this for testing car amplifiers I was repairing etc however a lot of computer power supplies use the 5V feed to stabilise the 12V feed. So you have to put something on it to create a bit of voltage draw on the 5V rail as well or the 12V will be all over the place.

I've got bench supplies for things up to 5A etc but I think they're probably too small for what you're after.

jimxms
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2,473
24-03-2018, 12:16 PM
#8
Good point toxo. You'll want a PSU that preferably has a dedicated 12v rail (more expensive) rather than the cheaper ones which tend to balance th 5v and 12v rails.

If you need any potential PSU's tested just let me know as I've got a 3.2kw PSU tester in my bedroom Wink

(in fact I may even have a beefy psu i'm not using)
jimxms
24-03-2018, 12:16 PM #8

Good point toxo. You'll want a PSU that preferably has a dedicated 12v rail (more expensive) rather than the cheaper ones which tend to balance th 5v and 12v rails.

If you need any potential PSU's tested just let me know as I've got a 3.2kw PSU tester in my bedroom Wink

(in fact I may even have a beefy psu i'm not using)

jay_russell
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3,005
24-03-2018, 12:24 PM
#9
what about a battery charger on a switch.
jay_russell
24-03-2018, 12:24 PM #9

what about a battery charger on a switch.

jimxms
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24-03-2018, 12:27 PM
#10
I could be wrong but I'd imagine most of those trickle smaller amounts of current into the battery rather than one big whollop?
jimxms
24-03-2018, 12:27 PM #10

I could be wrong but I'd imagine most of those trickle smaller amounts of current into the battery rather than one big whollop?

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