One little bolt that is screwing up all my plans!
One little bolt that is screwing up all my plans!
25-07-2018, 11:33 AM
Stoney This other bolt though is shaping up to be the death of me!!! :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing:
I bought some mole grip locking pliers, but they just can't grip it. I get them on as tight as humanly possible, and still it slips when turning, started to flatter the teeth of the pliers even. This bolt is so darn tight that it isn't even funny! The bit that is stuck in there is the ball end of a 'wobbly' 6mm allen key, and I cannot get it out. When I drill it, it moves about, when I jammed it at an angle with the drill and pressed as hard as I could, my drill (fairly powerful, mains powered) and high speed metal bits cannot get a grip in it or even start to get into it, whatever it is made of, it is strong!
All I can think now is to angle grind off the entire bolt head (if I can buy/beg/borrow/steal an angle grinder!) and I think the threads will still need drilling out too in order the get the bar off the cradle, and without that, I cannot get the cradle off the manifold! I even tried to take the manifold off with it to take to a workshop somewhere or even Jae! But I can't get all the manifold bolts out either.
This is really starting to stress me out now, as it may prevent my charger install at JAE completely.
I'm not sure there is much anyone can do! Unless you wanna pop down to Exeter with an angle grinder?But any advise/ideas are appreciated.
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ad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. ad:I have posted this in my supercharger thread, but I know not everyone checks that section and this problem, although relating to my charger, is really a general car related problem with a stuck bolt.
Stoney This other bolt though is shaping up to be the death of me!!! :cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing::cursing:
I bought some mole grip locking pliers, but they just can't grip it. I get them on as tight as humanly possible, and still it slips when turning, started to flatter the teeth of the pliers even. This bolt is so darn tight that it isn't even funny! The bit that is stuck in there is the ball end of a 'wobbly' 6mm allen key, and I cannot get it out. When I drill it, it moves about, when I jammed it at an angle with the drill and pressed as hard as I could, my drill (fairly powerful, mains powered) and high speed metal bits cannot get a grip in it or even start to get into it, whatever it is made of, it is strong!
All I can think now is to angle grind off the entire bolt head (if I can buy/beg/borrow/steal an angle grinder!) and I think the threads will still need drilling out too in order the get the bar off the cradle, and without that, I cannot get the cradle off the manifold! I even tried to take the manifold off with it to take to a workshop somewhere or even Jae! But I can't get all the manifold bolts out either.
This is really starting to stress me out now, as it may prevent my charger install at JAE completely.
I'm not sure there is much anyone can do! Unless you wanna pop down to Exeter with an angle grinder?
ad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. ad:
25-07-2018, 11:56 AM
you need to use a pop punch before drilling to get a starting mark.
i cant understand why its so tight though
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25-07-2018, 11:56 AM #3gutted mate, unsure what to do next.
you need to use a pop punch before drilling to get a starting mark.
i cant understand why its so tight though
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25-07-2018, 12:07 PM
speedfreek I can bring an angle grinder to JAE if you like?
The cradle is attached between two of the manifold pipes with the bolt in place, the bar it secures below is removed to allow the cradle to come out. I tried and failed to get the manifold off when I tried to get the whole assembly out in one piece, though may still be an option. The car I'm removing it from is pretty immobile too.
I have even thought of somehow cutting this vertical bar, installing without it and getting another fabricated soon. That or cutting (and ruining) the manifold, although I had hoped to maybe use it at a later date, as it has been de-catted.
Sparkystav gutted mate, unsure what to do next.
you need to use a pop punch before drilling to get a starting mark.
i cant understand why its so tight though
I did try with a screw driver, as don't have a punch, although the ball end of the allen key moves about in the bolt, pivots if you will? You have to push it to 'pop' it in, so is in there very tightly.
As to why the bolt is so tight in the first place, I don't really know, but it has been stood up over two years, and the cradle was originally assembled over four years before that, by TDI.
ad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. ad:speedfreek I can bring an angle grinder to JAE if you like?
The cradle is attached between two of the manifold pipes with the bolt in place, the bar it secures below is removed to allow the cradle to come out. I tried and failed to get the manifold off when I tried to get the whole assembly out in one piece, though may still be an option. The car I'm removing it from is pretty immobile too.
I have even thought of somehow cutting this vertical bar, installing without it and getting another fabricated soon. That or cutting (and ruining) the manifold, although I had hoped to maybe use it at a later date, as it has been de-catted.
Sparkystav gutted mate, unsure what to do next.
you need to use a pop punch before drilling to get a starting mark.
i cant understand why its so tight though
I did try with a screw driver, as don't have a punch, although the ball end of the allen key moves about in the bolt, pivots if you will? You have to push it to 'pop' it in, so is in there very tightly.
As to why the bolt is so tight in the first place, I don't really know, but it has been stood up over two years, and the cradle was originally assembled over four years before that, by TDI.
ad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. ad:
25-07-2018, 12:14 PM
Or heat the bolt up a bit with a blow torch , even hit it down the way with a hammer this might help also !!
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
What about a stilson to get it off ?
Or heat the bolt up a bit with a blow torch , even hit it down the way with a hammer this might help also !!
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
25-07-2018, 01:45 PM
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
25-07-2018, 01:45 PM #6Angle grinder from B&Q is only something silly like £15 - £20 mate - job done.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
25-07-2018, 01:52 PM
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
doing that is an option Phil , but the usual thing that happens is the weld stays and the bolt breaks
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
25-07-2018, 01:57 PM
I dont think the original bolt is that tight, what has caused all this aggro is poor old stoney used the ball end of an allen key and there is no strength in the recessed shoulder of the ball end, at most 50% of original diameter, so if 6mm allen key then it broke the 3-4mm section, such a furkin shame as it is holding him up
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