2012 MOT regulations.
2012 MOT regulations.
Originally Posted by From another website
There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:
4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
( Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
© Light source and lamp not compatible
4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
( Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.
4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
Device not operating.
For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.
6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
( Illegal engine modification.
(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)
There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:
4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
( Wiring deteriorated.
© Damaged or deteriorated insulation
and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:
7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
( Airbag obviously non-operative.
7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.
Originally Posted by VOSA
The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.
Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.
The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?
In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.
We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.
Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.
Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.
The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have
‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.
The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts.
Guys we had a brief chat about this a few months back, this is a heads up to give members some breathing space to either get their cars to mot regulations or ensure you get your modded car tested before January 2012.
Originally Posted by From another website
There are to be some changes to the MOT test from 1st January 2012 which are being introduced in response to European Commission Directive 2010/48/EU of the 5th July 2010 and which will effect those with aftermarket HID headlights and remapped ECUs:
4.1.4 Compliance with requirements:
(a) Lamp, emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
( Products on lens or light source which obviously reduce light intensity or change emitted colour
© Light source and lamp not compatible
4.1.5. Levelling devices (where mandatory):
(a) Device not operating.
( Manual device cannot be operated from driver’s seat.
4.1.6 Headlamp cleaning device (where mandatory):
Device not operating.
For anyone with a remap, section 6.1.9 may be relevant.
6.1.9 Engine performance:
(a) Control unit illegal modified.
( Illegal engine modification.
(by 'illegal', it is assumed that they mean changed/programmed differently from OEM specifications)
There will also be a new check on the general condition of the wiring:
4.11. Electrical wiring
(a) Wiring insecure or not adequately secured.
( Wiring deteriorated.
© Damaged or deteriorated insulation
and on the function of airbag and seat belt pre-tensioner systems:
7.1.4. Safety belt Pre-tensioners:
Pre-tensioner obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
7.1.5. Airbag:
(a) Airbags obviously missing or not suitable with the vehicle.
( Airbag obviously non-operative.
7.1.6. SRS Systems:
SRS MIL indicates any kind of failure of the system.
Originally Posted by VOSA
The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change – the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.
Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the European Directive covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/ EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year.
The new Directive keeps the EU minimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directive anticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes?
In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends ‘to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year’. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way.
We expect to hear more details of the government’s review proposals later in the year.
As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral.
In many cases, the changes shouldn’t necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.
Electrical wiring and batteries are now included in the test’s scope, but testers already check the vehicle structure where wiring is secured – often along the same routes as other testable items, such as brake pipes in the engine compartment. So again, this doesn’t look like an additional burden on the tester. In the pre-computerisation days, testers often (wrongly) failed vehicles for insecure batteries, so they must have been looking at them then! Now, it means that when we implement the new Directive, vehicles can legitimately fail for battery insecurity, for no extra tester effort.
Other items – such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine ‘chipping’ – will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOT stations.
Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester – when we know for sure what that is we’ll be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what the impact will be.
The common EU test certificate should be relatively easy to achieve – the only data that the Directive expects and that we don’t currently provide is the symbol for the vehicle’s country of origin. Probably 99% of vehicles tested will have
‘UK’ entered here, but if you do test vehicles with a foreign plate, you will need to enter the correct country symbol. We may even be able to make this change earlier if there is a convenient opportunity.
The MOT trade can rest assured that VOSA is working closely with you to introduce any new elements as efficiently and effectively as possible, with the minimum of fuss. Just as importantly, we are also working closely with Siemens to ensure that any system changes due on New Year’s Eve 2011 go smoothly! We should know more by the time the MOT seminars take place – come along and ask the experts.
how long till we all have to start modifiying our cars back to standard or keep them solely for a track :angry::angry::angry:
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is300_dino
13-08-2018, 01:47 AM #2what are they trying to do to us? it doesnt look to good for any modifiers, since when has a chip been illegal i dont really understand that, what makes it illegal? but the safety measures like seatbelts batteries etc i understand, we need to get out of the EU, even bikes are getting hit with EU directives so they cant use aftermarket parts unless they are factory approved? see this... http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/s/21002..._directive
how long till we all have to start modifiying our cars back to standard or keep them solely for a track :angry::angry::angry:
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jae 2010 ice outlaw award 2nd place
jae 2011 ice outlaw award 1st place
"Tonight I attended what is known as an MOT seminar, basically the head honchos from VOSA go to each area, and talk about the MOT scheme, including changes to the test.
As I said in the thread about the new EU directive, as soon as I knew what was changing in the MOT test I would post it up. These changes are to be brought into the test on 1st January 2012, not before. So here goes...
Steering lock operation - Steering locks not engaging when the ignition key is removed will fail.
Engine warning lamps, brake fluid warning lamps, ESP lamps, EPB lamps illumination - ANY of the above illuminated indicating a fault will fail.TPMS (Tyre pressure monitoring systems) warning lamps - Again, if illuminated indicating a fault, will fail.Airbag/SRS lamp illumination - If this warning lamp is illuminated it will fail.
HID Headlamps - Now, a little grey area here. They will be included in the new test, and will fail if they prove to be outside of the specified conditions... but the conditions and reasons for rejections haven't been written/decided yet, so sit tight.
Wiring - Any wiring (loomed or otherwise) that is damaged, or fitted in such a way that could cause damage to said wiring, or other systems will fail.
Engine mountings - Engine mountings will be a part of the test. incorrect mounting, corrosion in a prescribed area etc will fail.
PAS (Power assisted steering) fluid level will be tested.
Rear doors must open in the new test. Previously (and currently), if the tester feels he can access the testable items in the rear (seatbelts, prescribed areas etc) without needing the doors open, they don't need to open. This will now be a failure.
13 pin towbar sockets - tested for correct operation using a plug in testing tool.
Inappropriate modifications or repairs - The wording on this is quite vague at the moment, but if a major component has been modified, and that modification/repair makes the vehicle dangerous or seriously weakens the original component, expect it to fail.
ANY ball joint dust cover - The small rubber boots over ball joints must be intact and free or splits, tears or holes, or it fails.
All CVJ gaiters will be tested - Currently, only the front outer] CVJ gaiters are tested. This new rule extends it to inner and outer, front and rear.
A catalytic converter missing WILL be a reason for failure, regardless of whether or not the emissions limits are met.
Fuel pipe chaffing or damage - Currently they only fail when they are leaking, this rule means that any chaffing or rubbing causing damage will fail.
The braking imbalance limit is lowered to 30% across all axles.
Vehicles built post July 2010 will have to have at least 58% braking efficiency to pass (currently it's 50% for a dual circuit braking system)
Insecure batteries will become a failure
The main beam warning lamp must illuminate with the main beam lamps
All light switches must operate the corresponding lights immediately. No tapping, or wiggling to make it work!
Remember, these changes will all be brought into testing starting from the 1st January 2012. The exact wording of each failure has yet to be released, but the above list is what was presented to us earlier this evening. I've posted all I know currently, so unfortunately I can't help with any questions ...
Bit more info from an MOT tester thats been on the course.
"Tonight I attended what is known as an MOT seminar, basically the head honchos from VOSA go to each area, and talk about the MOT scheme, including changes to the test.
As I said in the thread about the new EU directive, as soon as I knew what was changing in the MOT test I would post it up. These changes are to be brought into the test on 1st January 2012, not before. So here goes...
Steering lock operation - Steering locks not engaging when the ignition key is removed will fail.
Engine warning lamps, brake fluid warning lamps, ESP lamps, EPB lamps illumination - ANY of the above illuminated indicating a fault will fail.TPMS (Tyre pressure monitoring systems) warning lamps - Again, if illuminated indicating a fault, will fail.Airbag/SRS lamp illumination - If this warning lamp is illuminated it will fail.
HID Headlamps - Now, a little grey area here. They will be included in the new test, and will fail if they prove to be outside of the specified conditions... but the conditions and reasons for rejections haven't been written/decided yet, so sit tight.
Wiring - Any wiring (loomed or otherwise) that is damaged, or fitted in such a way that could cause damage to said wiring, or other systems will fail.
Engine mountings - Engine mountings will be a part of the test. incorrect mounting, corrosion in a prescribed area etc will fail.
PAS (Power assisted steering) fluid level will be tested.
Rear doors must open in the new test. Previously (and currently), if the tester feels he can access the testable items in the rear (seatbelts, prescribed areas etc) without needing the doors open, they don't need to open. This will now be a failure.
13 pin towbar sockets - tested for correct operation using a plug in testing tool.
Inappropriate modifications or repairs - The wording on this is quite vague at the moment, but if a major component has been modified, and that modification/repair makes the vehicle dangerous or seriously weakens the original component, expect it to fail.
ANY ball joint dust cover - The small rubber boots over ball joints must be intact and free or splits, tears or holes, or it fails.
All CVJ gaiters will be tested - Currently, only the front outer] CVJ gaiters are tested. This new rule extends it to inner and outer, front and rear.
A catalytic converter missing WILL be a reason for failure, regardless of whether or not the emissions limits are met.
Fuel pipe chaffing or damage - Currently they only fail when they are leaking, this rule means that any chaffing or rubbing causing damage will fail.
The braking imbalance limit is lowered to 30% across all axles.
Vehicles built post July 2010 will have to have at least 58% braking efficiency to pass (currently it's 50% for a dual circuit braking system)
Insecure batteries will become a failure
The main beam warning lamp must illuminate with the main beam lamps
All light switches must operate the corresponding lights immediately. No tapping, or wiggling to make it work!
Remember, these changes will all be brought into testing starting from the 1st January 2012. The exact wording of each failure has yet to be released, but the above list is what was presented to us earlier this evening. I've posted all I know currently, so unfortunately I can't help with any questions ...
el_bandido
13-08-2018, 02:59 AM #5why should we have to have a cat if it passes emissions regulations without one?
Stav's in trouble, his passenger airbag isn't even there anymore... it's an extra fuse box to power all his toys now...
IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!
Modifications
Completed:
Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )
In Progress:
E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake
I foresee problems for IS owners who have changed their steering wheel - if the replacement has no airbag will that cause a fail?
Stav's in trouble, his passenger airbag isn't even there anymore... it's an extra fuse box to power all his toys now...
IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!
Modifications
Completed:
Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )
In Progress:
E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake
That's not good. Sounds like a lot of aftermarket zausts could be illegal, including the Joe Z system I was about to purchase for my IS-F, unless perhaps I weld the same number of cats into the system as OEM..
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
A catalytic converter missing WILL be a reason for failure, regardless of whether or not the emissions limits are met.
That's not good. Sounds like a lot of aftermarket zausts could be illegal, including the Joe Z system I was about to purchase for my IS-F, unless perhaps I weld the same number of cats into the system as OEM..
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I feel the problem is the people who make up these silly rules have absolutely no interest in cars whatsoever and have little compassion for people who do. I can agree with most of the checks in the list but making remaps unacceptable is absolute horse ****
I can't see them being able to check whether your car's remapped or not
I feel the problem is the people who make up these silly rules have absolutely no interest in cars whatsoever and have little compassion for people who do. I can agree with most of the checks in the list but making remaps unacceptable is absolute horse ****
DaveEdin I foresee problems for IS owners who have changed their steering wheel - if the replacement has no airbag will that cause a fail?
Stav's in trouble, his passenger airbag isn't even there anymore... it's an extra fuse box to power all his toys now...
I hope to be able to get around it.
Firstly off I flat off the 'srs' bit on the cover how do they know one was ever there.
Secondly my spa dash doesn't have a light for airbag or a space for one.
The only bag I have left is the steering wheel and ive already got plans for that.
But your right it's ridiculous the stiff their trying to do.
A car should be safe or nothing falling off and not dangerous to drove (steering knackered that sort of thing)
And legal with tyre limits etc. That's all.
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13-08-2018, 03:17 AM #9DaveEdin I foresee problems for IS owners who have changed their steering wheel - if the replacement has no airbag will that cause a fail?
Stav's in trouble, his passenger airbag isn't even there anymore... it's an extra fuse box to power all his toys now...
I hope to be able to get around it.
Firstly off I flat off the 'srs' bit on the cover how do they know one was ever there.
Secondly my spa dash doesn't have a light for airbag or a space for one.
The only bag I have left is the steering wheel and ive already got plans for that.
But your right it's ridiculous the stiff their trying to do.
A car should be safe or nothing falling off and not dangerous to drove (steering knackered that sort of thing)
And legal with tyre limits etc. That's all.
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Both our cars are pre-93 so currently no cat required, however Nissan saw fit to put them on the cars as standard, so does this rule now change the status quo because it had one at the factory it must have one now? If so I'm ******! HID Lights, without them you CANNOT SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING in a Z!!!!!! The stock lights were DIAR! So now because of the people in Brussels we all have to die in head on collisions? Mine being a UK Spec Z, it did have light washers, but they failed within the first few years usually and have been completely removed on mine, because why keep something that doesn't work? Is this going to be a problem for me too? Rear wheel steering (HICAS) was notorious for failing both mechanically over time (i.e. bushes wear out, rods become corroded, etc.) and in practice (I had a minor crash in my R32GTR because HICAS went nuts on a roundabout) so my Z has it locked off with a replacement "solid" steering rack and poly bushes, we are going to do this to Roses car too, is this going to be illegal because it "allegedly" decreases the vehicles ability to steer? Both cars also have Mines ECUs, this is a stock ECU and not chipped, simply re-mapped, is this going to be illegal? WTF!
TBH my biggest fear here, is the dodgy testers, not the ones who pass an unsafe car, the ones who bump up the repair bill with nonsense repairs that aren't needed. All these laws do is introduce a whole new realm of bollocks for them to dream up that's wrong with your car, especially if it's modified or old (i.e. you've had to modify it because of a lack of spare parts) this shouldn't be allowed to happen and to be perfectly honest, I'm getting to the point with Europe and our weak assed government that I'm almost prepared to lead the charge on downing street with an M4 Assault rifle! Who's with me?
HollowPoint
13-08-2018, 04:17 AM #10Hmmmm, this concerns me quite a bit. Europe started out as a stupid annoyance, with rules like no lawn mowers over a certain decibel on a Sunday, Heathrow must land it's planes in one direction for half the day, then the other direction for the other half of the day (This causes MASSIVE fuel waste btw), but now rules like this.
Both our cars are pre-93 so currently no cat required, however Nissan saw fit to put them on the cars as standard, so does this rule now change the status quo because it had one at the factory it must have one now? If so I'm ******! HID Lights, without them you CANNOT SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING in a Z!!!!!! The stock lights were DIAR! So now because of the people in Brussels we all have to die in head on collisions? Mine being a UK Spec Z, it did have light washers, but they failed within the first few years usually and have been completely removed on mine, because why keep something that doesn't work? Is this going to be a problem for me too? Rear wheel steering (HICAS) was notorious for failing both mechanically over time (i.e. bushes wear out, rods become corroded, etc.) and in practice (I had a minor crash in my R32GTR because HICAS went nuts on a roundabout) so my Z has it locked off with a replacement "solid" steering rack and poly bushes, we are going to do this to Roses car too, is this going to be illegal because it "allegedly" decreases the vehicles ability to steer? Both cars also have Mines ECUs, this is a stock ECU and not chipped, simply re-mapped, is this going to be illegal? WTF!
TBH my biggest fear here, is the dodgy testers, not the ones who pass an unsafe car, the ones who bump up the repair bill with nonsense repairs that aren't needed. All these laws do is introduce a whole new realm of bollocks for them to dream up that's wrong with your car, especially if it's modified or old (i.e. you've had to modify it because of a lack of spare parts) this shouldn't be allowed to happen and to be perfectly honest, I'm getting to the point with Europe and our weak assed government that I'm almost prepared to lead the charge on downing street with an M4 Assault rifle! Who's with me?
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