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LS430 to GS450h/GS430 a downgrade?

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jimxms
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26-09-2018, 01:34 PM
#41
300C looks like it might be out of the picture. Mrs can't get insured on the saloon model, only the estate, which IMO looks like a hearse.

I presume this is because the hearse is significantly slower to 60?
jimxms
26-09-2018, 01:34 PM #41

300C looks like it might be out of the picture. Mrs can't get insured on the saloon model, only the estate, which IMO looks like a hearse.

I presume this is because the hearse is significantly slower to 60?

parthiban
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26-09-2018, 01:52 PM
#42
jimxms Ah, now that I wasn't expecting. I though the Jag would be quite spacious even in the rear and none of the pictures I saw of the interiors made me think otherwise. How would you say it compares to the IS?
Oh it's definitely bigger than the IS - it's just cramped in comparison to rival large saloons. Coming from the LS430 it'll probably feel quite small whereas the 300C may not feel that different at all.

Interesting comment about rust - didn't realise the aluminium bodied XJs were prone to rust. Is it a common problem like with Mercs of the early 2000s or just in isolated cases?

jimxms 300C looks like it might be out of the picture. Mrs can't get insured on the saloon model, only the estate, which IMO looks like a hearse.

I presume this is because the hearse is significantly slower to 60?
That's really weird, not sure on the stats but can't imagine the estate is more than half a second slower to 60 max, it's surely just tenths.

That solves the dilemma I suppose though!

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
26-09-2018, 01:52 PM #42

jimxms Ah, now that I wasn't expecting. I though the Jag would be quite spacious even in the rear and none of the pictures I saw of the interiors made me think otherwise. How would you say it compares to the IS?
Oh it's definitely bigger than the IS - it's just cramped in comparison to rival large saloons. Coming from the LS430 it'll probably feel quite small whereas the 300C may not feel that different at all.

Interesting comment about rust - didn't realise the aluminium bodied XJs were prone to rust. Is it a common problem like with Mercs of the early 2000s or just in isolated cases?

jimxms 300C looks like it might be out of the picture. Mrs can't get insured on the saloon model, only the estate, which IMO looks like a hearse.

I presume this is because the hearse is significantly slower to 60?
That's really weird, not sure on the stats but can't imagine the estate is more than half a second slower to 60 max, it's surely just tenths.

That solves the dilemma I suppose though!


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Lexuspat
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26-09-2018, 06:54 PM
#43
I have a couple of mates who have Jags S types I believe 1 is an estate the other a saloon and they don't seem to have any problems at all and have between them all the toys they come with.

They love them

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Lexuspat
26-09-2018, 06:54 PM #43

I have a couple of mates who have Jags S types I believe 1 is an estate the other a saloon and they don't seem to have any problems at all and have between them all the toys they come with.

They love them


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jimxms
Posting Freak
2,473
26-09-2018, 10:01 PM
#44
parthiban Oh it's definitely bigger than the IS - it's just cramped in comparison to rival large saloons. Coming from the LS430 it'll probably feel quite small whereas the 300C may not feel that different at all.

Interesting comment about rust - didn't realise the aluminium bodied XJs were prone to rust. Is it a common problem like with Mercs of the early 2000s or just in isolated cases?


That's really weird, not sure on the stats but can't imagine the estate is more than half a second slower to 60 max, it's surely just tenths.

That solves the dilemma I suppose though!

Yeah shame in a way as I'd have liked to driven both. Not sure if the hooligan in me would have preferred the supercharger or the hemi :p

Stats on autotrader put the estate at 7sec which does seem rather slow!
jimxms
26-09-2018, 10:01 PM #44

parthiban Oh it's definitely bigger than the IS - it's just cramped in comparison to rival large saloons. Coming from the LS430 it'll probably feel quite small whereas the 300C may not feel that different at all.

Interesting comment about rust - didn't realise the aluminium bodied XJs were prone to rust. Is it a common problem like with Mercs of the early 2000s or just in isolated cases?


That's really weird, not sure on the stats but can't imagine the estate is more than half a second slower to 60 max, it's surely just tenths.

That solves the dilemma I suppose though!

Yeah shame in a way as I'd have liked to driven both. Not sure if the hooligan in me would have preferred the supercharger or the hemi :p

Stats on autotrader put the estate at 7sec which does seem rather slow!

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
26-09-2018, 11:23 PM
#45
jimxms Yeah shame in a way as I'd have liked to driven both. Not sure if the hooligan in me would have preferred the supercharger or the hemi :p

Stats on autotrader put the estate at 7sec which does seem rather slow!

Assuming the XJR has a very similar engine to the one in my brothers SV8 it's a lovely engine - great to hear the low rumble of the V8 with the whine of the supercharger on top........

Yep the hemi doesn't produce as much power as you think it might, plus the 300C is a really heavy car - I did think it was close to 6s to 60 though (or is that just the saloon?)

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
26-09-2018, 11:23 PM #45

jimxms Yeah shame in a way as I'd have liked to driven both. Not sure if the hooligan in me would have preferred the supercharger or the hemi :p

Stats on autotrader put the estate at 7sec which does seem rather slow!

Assuming the XJR has a very similar engine to the one in my brothers SV8 it's a lovely engine - great to hear the low rumble of the V8 with the whine of the supercharger on top........

Yep the hemi doesn't produce as much power as you think it might, plus the 300C is a really heavy car - I did think it was close to 6s to 60 though (or is that just the saloon?)


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Stoney
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27-09-2018, 01:24 AM
#46
On the Jag theme. I know you work for them Phil, as a breakdown technician (or similar) and of course you see a lot of them when they are broken! But my dad has had 4 very reliable ones now, a 97 LWB Sovereign, a 99 XJR, an 04 Super V8 and now an 08 XF SV8, there has not been a single fault on any of them, and he did a lot of mileage. As I said before, that would be my choice. Have a test of something like this: EBAY LINK

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Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:
Stoney
27-09-2018, 01:24 AM #46

On the Jag theme. I know you work for them Phil, as a breakdown technician (or similar) and of course you see a lot of them when they are broken! But my dad has had 4 very reliable ones now, a 97 LWB Sovereign, a 99 XJR, an 04 Super V8 and now an 08 XF SV8, there has not been a single fault on any of them, and he did a lot of mileage. As I said before, that would be my choice. Have a test of something like this: EBAY LINK


[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
27-09-2018, 01:39 AM
#47
Not sure about a 300c Hearse, the Dodge Magnum filled that gap in the US, it that a Europe only model I winder???

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
27-09-2018, 01:39 AM #47

Not sure about a 300c Hearse, the Dodge Magnum filled that gap in the US, it that a Europe only model I winder???


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Rolex
Senior Member
512
27-09-2018, 04:44 AM
#48
do not touch the 300c mate, i worked for mercedes and have heard all the stories.

They are old e class mercedes rebody which they could not sell cause when they where the e class they where shocking.

Stay far away the looks at not worth the hassle. Just get a new dodge charger on import.
Rolex
27-09-2018, 04:44 AM #48

do not touch the 300c mate, i worked for mercedes and have heard all the stories.

They are old e class mercedes rebody which they could not sell cause when they where the e class they where shocking.

Stay far away the looks at not worth the hassle. Just get a new dodge charger on import.

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
27-09-2018, 01:53 PM
#49
2tongues Not sure about a 300c Hearse, the Dodge Magnum filled that gap in the US, it that a Europe only model I winder???

Yep in the US it was the Dodge Magnum, over here they had a 300C estate.

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
27-09-2018, 01:53 PM #49

2tongues Not sure about a 300c Hearse, the Dodge Magnum filled that gap in the US, it that a Europe only model I winder???

Yep in the US it was the Dodge Magnum, over here they had a 300C estate.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

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