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Electric Window fault???

Electric Window fault???

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FirebirdPhil
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7,101
15-02-2019, 11:02 AM
#1
Gen 7 Celica:

OK so my passenger window has decided to stop working?
I have done the following:

Checked fuse (lol)
Removed switch assy. and cleaned.
Removed door card and checked all cables are in place.

No faults found.

Connected a live and earth feed direct to the window motor and it works just fine all the way up and down.

Traced wires back to switch and applied a 12v feed to the switched live and neutral (checking the entire circuit past the switch) and window works just fine.

So any normal person would assume the switch assy. is faulty - right??????

Changed switch assy. for a 2nd hand one and......................... same fault. Passenger window doesn't work - drivers one and locks work just fine. Locks are on the same switch assy. for those that don't know!!

So what next? Wires are 100%, motor works up and down, switch has been swapped.

Is it possible the window regulator is faulty showing a high resistance so the car is in some sort of fail safe????????????

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
15-02-2019, 11:02 AM #1

Gen 7 Celica:

OK so my passenger window has decided to stop working?
I have done the following:

Checked fuse (lol)
Removed switch assy. and cleaned.
Removed door card and checked all cables are in place.

No faults found.

Connected a live and earth feed direct to the window motor and it works just fine all the way up and down.

Traced wires back to switch and applied a 12v feed to the switched live and neutral (checking the entire circuit past the switch) and window works just fine.

So any normal person would assume the switch assy. is faulty - right??????

Changed switch assy. for a 2nd hand one and......................... same fault. Passenger window doesn't work - drivers one and locks work just fine. Locks are on the same switch assy. for those that don't know!!

So what next? Wires are 100%, motor works up and down, switch has been swapped.

Is it possible the window regulator is faulty showing a high resistance so the car is in some sort of fail safe????????????


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Rabster
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15-02-2019, 11:24 AM
#2
was there 12v at the input of the switch ?



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Rabster
15-02-2019, 11:24 AM #2

was there 12v at the input of the switch ?




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FirebirdPhil
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15-02-2019, 11:26 AM
#3
Yea 12V goes into the switch.

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FirebirdPhil
15-02-2019, 11:26 AM #3

Yea 12V goes into the switch.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Sparkystav
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14,683
15-02-2019, 11:36 AM
#4
I assume the power will be relayed so its only on when the car is on. Have you checked that?

Have you got any wiring diagrams?

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Sparkystav
15-02-2019, 11:36 AM #4

I assume the power will be relayed so its only on when the car is on. Have you checked that?

Have you got any wiring diagrams?


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Rabster
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15-02-2019, 11:37 AM
#5
Ok so if you bypass the switch and use the 12v that goes into it does it function the reason I ask is 12v may be present but not enough current to operate the window via the input cable....



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Rabster
15-02-2019, 11:37 AM #5

Ok so if you bypass the switch and use the 12v that goes into it does it function the reason I ask is 12v may be present but not enough current to operate the window via the input cable....




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FirebirdPhil
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15-02-2019, 11:41 AM
#6
The windows only operate on ACC and run. All checked and correct.
No wiring diagram...... looking for one at the moment.
The feed into the switch is the one I have used to power the window - by bypassing the switch.

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
15-02-2019, 11:41 AM #6

The windows only operate on ACC and run. All checked and correct.
No wiring diagram...... looking for one at the moment.
The feed into the switch is the one I have used to power the window - by bypassing the switch.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Rabster
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15-02-2019, 11:55 AM
#7
Hmm seems very odd then sounds like the system is feeling there is a resistance on the window motor and as such Wong go up or down

Same as holding the glass down the switch won't work

Does the motor judder ?

With a DMM does it show 12v at the motor when u operate the switch ?



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Rabster
15-02-2019, 11:55 AM #7

Hmm seems very odd then sounds like the system is feeling there is a resistance on the window motor and as such Wong go up or down

Same as holding the glass down the switch won't work

Does the motor judder ?

With a DMM does it show 12v at the motor when u operate the switch ?




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FirebirdPhil
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15-02-2019, 11:58 AM
#8
Window is smooth.

I will check motor voltage tomorrow - I should have done that already lol.

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
15-02-2019, 11:58 AM #8

Window is smooth.

I will check motor voltage tomorrow - I should have done that already lol.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

jomo
Senior Member
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16-02-2019, 02:37 AM
#9
My misses had the same prob, turned out she'd hit the window lock button!

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HTH.

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jomo
16-02-2019, 02:37 AM #9

My misses had the same prob, turned out she'd hit the window lock button!

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HTH.


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FirebirdPhil
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16-02-2019, 09:12 AM
#10
Today I did everything Rabs/Stav said. All to no availConfusedad:

Then looked at the switch Jomo above has pictured to find it no longer works and is stuck in the lock position - it just won't move looks like this is the fault lol. New switch on order from scrapjap.co.uk.

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
16-02-2019, 09:12 AM #10

Today I did everything Rabs/Stav said. All to no availConfusedad:

Then looked at the switch Jomo above has pictured to find it no longer works and is stuck in the lock position - it just won't move looks like this is the fault lol. New switch on order from scrapjap.co.uk.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

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