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Jaminglish
Member
145
08-12-2019, 10:38 AM
#1
Hi guys , my brother has a sportcross with a system which i think is just too heavy (deafening) for the car. He has fitted various capacitors etc, But the fuses keep blowing. He now wants to fit a different alternator (more amperage) so he can charge another battery in the boot is this possible? can he he not just use the same alternator to charge both batteries?
Jaminglish
08-12-2019, 10:38 AM #1

Hi guys , my brother has a sportcross with a system which i think is just too heavy (deafening) for the car. He has fitted various capacitors etc, But the fuses keep blowing. He now wants to fit a different alternator (more amperage) so he can charge another battery in the boot is this possible? can he he not just use the same alternator to charge both batteries?

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
08-12-2019, 10:55 AM
#2
Caps can cause extra unnecessary strain on an electrical system - they are not for compensating for a low amp alternator. Has he tried running the system without these fitted?

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
08-12-2019, 10:55 AM #2

Caps can cause extra unnecessary strain on an electrical system - they are not for compensating for a low amp alternator. Has he tried running the system without these fitted?


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Jaminglish
Member
145
08-12-2019, 10:59 AM
#3
FirebirdPhil Caps can cause extra unnecessary strain on an electrical system - they are not for compensating for a low amp alternator. Has he tried running the system without these fitted?

I think not...Phil. Is there an higher amp alternator for the lexus?
Jaminglish
08-12-2019, 10:59 AM #3

FirebirdPhil Caps can cause extra unnecessary strain on an electrical system - they are not for compensating for a low amp alternator. Has he tried running the system without these fitted?

I think not...Phil. Is there an higher amp alternator for the lexus?

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
08-12-2019, 11:53 AM
#4
Jaminglish I think not...Phil. Is there an higher amp alternator for the lexus?

That largely depends on which engine he's got...
toxo
08-12-2019, 11:53 AM #4

Jaminglish I think not...Phil. Is there an higher amp alternator for the lexus?

That largely depends on which engine he's got...

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
08-12-2019, 01:05 PM
#5
Jaminglish I think not...Phil. Is there an higher amp alternator for the lexus?

I think you will find I am correct on the physics side, your alternator is trying to provide current to both your amp and trying to charge the cap at the same time, a hell of a lot harder on your entire stereo and charging system especially given the huge electrical drain the IS... has from factory.

I've re-wired systems where a cap was used to help with deep bass for a couple of seconds (at the beginning of a track), but a proper electrical system and removal of the cap was proven to be better and not for a *couple of seconds* for long sustained high volume playing. Caps generally hide the root cause of the lack of power like a failing battery or as you want a new alternator. Even just simply increasing the cable sizes to and from the Alt can help.

Caps are generally a waste of time, unless you like shiny things? - proper electrical charging is by FAR the most important part of your whole audio system.

Yes there are higher amp alts for the Lex.

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
08-12-2019, 01:05 PM #5

Jaminglish I think not...Phil. Is there an higher amp alternator for the lexus?

I think you will find I am correct on the physics side, your alternator is trying to provide current to both your amp and trying to charge the cap at the same time, a hell of a lot harder on your entire stereo and charging system especially given the huge electrical drain the IS... has from factory.

I've re-wired systems where a cap was used to help with deep bass for a couple of seconds (at the beginning of a track), but a proper electrical system and removal of the cap was proven to be better and not for a *couple of seconds* for long sustained high volume playing. Caps generally hide the root cause of the lack of power like a failing battery or as you want a new alternator. Even just simply increasing the cable sizes to and from the Alt can help.

Caps are generally a waste of time, unless you like shiny things? - proper electrical charging is by FAR the most important part of your whole audio system.

Yes there are higher amp alts for the Lex.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Jaminglish
Member
145
10-12-2019, 01:18 PM
#6
Thank you guys for the response. I'll let you know how he got on..
Jaminglish
10-12-2019, 01:18 PM #6

Thank you guys for the response. I'll let you know how he got on..

robsx
Junior Member
15
13-12-2019, 08:08 AM
#7
FirebirdPhil Caps are generally a waste of time, unless you like shiny things? - proper electrical charging is by FAR the most important part of your whole audio system.

True, capacitors are useless from the little I remember from when I cared about stereo systems.

He'd be best off getting a trickle split charge system and another battery in the boot. They use the trickle charge systems on things like caravans and the like.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-30AMP-SPLI...2a286d4858

Something along those lines. And before somebody says it, yes, you could probably piece it together for less money buying bits from all over the place.
robsx
13-12-2019, 08:08 AM #7

FirebirdPhil Caps are generally a waste of time, unless you like shiny things? - proper electrical charging is by FAR the most important part of your whole audio system.

True, capacitors are useless from the little I remember from when I cared about stereo systems.

He'd be best off getting a trickle split charge system and another battery in the boot. They use the trickle charge systems on things like caravans and the like.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-30AMP-SPLI...2a286d4858

Something along those lines. And before somebody says it, yes, you could probably piece it together for less money buying bits from all over the place.

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
13-12-2019, 09:51 AM
#8
I use one of these for my second battery:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TEC3M-12v-Auto...3a7d172066

switches on when the voltage gets to about 13.5v

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Sparkystav
13-12-2019, 09:51 AM #8

I use one of these for my second battery:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TEC3M-12v-Auto...3a7d172066

switches on when the voltage gets to about 13.5v


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