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sprinter2012
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2,484
22-12-2019, 02:15 PM
#11
In all honesty that sounds like a lot of money and effort to spend on a car with a destroyed drive train and an unloved engine, will it actually be able to take 350hp?

I'll give you the same advice I'd give anyone else attempting a similar project, for the love of god make sure you find a way to mount the supercharger BEFORE you spend any money on anything else.
sprinter2012
22-12-2019, 02:15 PM #11

In all honesty that sounds like a lot of money and effort to spend on a car with a destroyed drive train and an unloved engine, will it actually be able to take 350hp?

I'll give you the same advice I'd give anyone else attempting a similar project, for the love of god make sure you find a way to mount the supercharger BEFORE you spend any money on anything else.

el_bandido
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2,757
22-12-2019, 02:21 PM
#12
That's why I'm replacing everything with GTE bits, if I need to buy stuff anyway I might as well improve it. I've located a spare low mileage 1g-fe with a gearbox for a very small amount of money, so I'm planning on harvesting good bits, adding what I need from the GTE and then giving it a good service. It shouldn't cost that much money, everything is coming from second hand engines aside from the timing belt etc.

I know the supercharger fits because it's been done before, with decent results. As I've managed to pick one up for an insanely small amount of money I could probably get everything done for little more than the TTE compressor kit price.
Edited 01-02-2013, 11:57 PM by el_bandido.
el_bandido
22-12-2019, 02:21 PM #12

That's why I'm replacing everything with GTE bits, if I need to buy stuff anyway I might as well improve it. I've located a spare low mileage 1g-fe with a gearbox for a very small amount of money, so I'm planning on harvesting good bits, adding what I need from the GTE and then giving it a good service. It shouldn't cost that much money, everything is coming from second hand engines aside from the timing belt etc.

I know the supercharger fits because it's been done before, with decent results. As I've managed to pick one up for an insanely small amount of money I could probably get everything done for little more than the TTE compressor kit price.

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
22-12-2019, 02:41 PM
#13
el_bandido I know the supercharger fits because it's been done before, with decent results. As I've managed to pick one up for an insanely small amount of money I could probably get everything done for little more than the TTE compressor kit price.

When you say 'it fits' do you mean it will just bolt on or that it can be made to fit? Because the TTE supercharger 'fits' but unless you have an original cradle or are very good at design and fabrication you're fighting a losing battle. Same applies to this one I imagine, unless it comes with a bracket of some sort? In which case you're away. lol
sprinter2012
22-12-2019, 02:41 PM #13

el_bandido I know the supercharger fits because it's been done before, with decent results. As I've managed to pick one up for an insanely small amount of money I could probably get everything done for little more than the TTE compressor kit price.

When you say 'it fits' do you mean it will just bolt on or that it can be made to fit? Because the TTE supercharger 'fits' but unless you have an original cradle or are very good at design and fabrication you're fighting a losing battle. Same applies to this one I imagine, unless it comes with a bracket of some sort? In which case you're away. lol

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
22-12-2019, 03:07 PM
#14
You dont need a crank, same part as the fe anyway.
Get an air intercooler, easy to get and will be a lot cheaper.

Injectors, I have some gte ones, not sure what cc they are though.

Clutch, standard Toyota. If it ain't broke......though get a solid flywheel.

As for piggyback, with decent knock protection will be pricey, if you want to keep the dash etc, best getting an emanage ultimate as a piggyback and a decent mapper to avoid knock.
For peace of mind get a visual knock detector for daily feedback if you want.

Cooling. Alloy rad will be no benefit, stick with standard. Bu an oil cooler will be a safe upgrade.

Plugs, no need for iridium. From personal experience they offer no benefit. go for a grade 7.

Cooling:
I have no idea what I need in terms of oil coolers etc, would it be worth upgrading to an aluminium radiator for the engine coolant?

Exhaust is your choice, but if you look at stix thread, he has good info on both exhaust and fuelling.

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Sparkystav
22-12-2019, 03:07 PM #14

You dont need a crank, same part as the fe anyway.
Get an air intercooler, easy to get and will be a lot cheaper.

Injectors, I have some gte ones, not sure what cc they are though.

Clutch, standard Toyota. If it ain't broke......though get a solid flywheel.

As for piggyback, with decent knock protection will be pricey, if you want to keep the dash etc, best getting an emanage ultimate as a piggyback and a decent mapper to avoid knock.
For peace of mind get a visual knock detector for daily feedback if you want.

Cooling. Alloy rad will be no benefit, stick with standard. Bu an oil cooler will be a safe upgrade.

Plugs, no need for iridium. From personal experience they offer no benefit. go for a grade 7.

Cooling:
I have no idea what I need in terms of oil coolers etc, would it be worth upgrading to an aluminium radiator for the engine coolant?

Exhaust is your choice, but if you look at stix thread, he has good info on both exhaust and fuelling.


OutlawJapClub Admin Team

el_bandido
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2,757
22-12-2019, 03:38 PM
#15
cool cheers. I'm pretty dead set on the air to water intercooler, I've found a few in Australia that are about £60 + postage for the whole unit, could couple this to a normal water radiator and an electric pump for a fairly small amount of money. It literally bolts on as a new rocker cover to the 1gfe so it should be an extremely simple solution, no long metal pipes and all I need to do is mount a second rad. This also means I can take the air feed directly from the supercharger to the intercooler in the space of 6". On top of that, I just want something a bit different and I really want to see what kind of temps the air to water gets. It also has the advantage that I can mount it and get everything working before the charger is even installed.

I'll have a look at the emanage, there are a few on ebay and it looks as if I can get a loom plug in for the is200.

Sprinter - It needs an adapter plate to bolt on, but this is fairly trivial fabrication work by the looks of it, can't see it being hard work for anyone who knows what they are doing. Dave got his done as a 1 off and it didn't look that complex, there is a lot of room available to mount the charger. I'd probably have to lose the heat shield but that's no big loss really.
Edited 02-02-2013, 01:14 AM by el_bandido.
el_bandido
22-12-2019, 03:38 PM #15

cool cheers. I'm pretty dead set on the air to water intercooler, I've found a few in Australia that are about £60 + postage for the whole unit, could couple this to a normal water radiator and an electric pump for a fairly small amount of money. It literally bolts on as a new rocker cover to the 1gfe so it should be an extremely simple solution, no long metal pipes and all I need to do is mount a second rad. This also means I can take the air feed directly from the supercharger to the intercooler in the space of 6". On top of that, I just want something a bit different and I really want to see what kind of temps the air to water gets. It also has the advantage that I can mount it and get everything working before the charger is even installed.

I'll have a look at the emanage, there are a few on ebay and it looks as if I can get a loom plug in for the is200.

Sprinter - It needs an adapter plate to bolt on, but this is fairly trivial fabrication work by the looks of it, can't see it being hard work for anyone who knows what they are doing. Dave got his done as a 1 off and it didn't look that complex, there is a lot of room available to mount the charger. I'd probably have to lose the heat shield but that's no big loss really.

mattlaw
Senior Member
572
22-12-2019, 03:57 PM
#16
If you need a place to get parts delivered to you could always get them sent to me at work, u say the drivetrain is wrecked? Why not pop to my work Tomoz an ill look it over for you?
mattlaw
22-12-2019, 03:57 PM #16

If you need a place to get parts delivered to you could always get them sent to me at work, u say the drivetrain is wrecked? Why not pop to my work Tomoz an ill look it over for you?

el_bandido
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2,757
22-12-2019, 04:04 PM
#17
mattlaw If you need a place to get parts delivered to you could always get them sent to me at work, u say the drivetrain is wrecked? Why not pop to my work Tomoz an ill look it over for you?

Where abouts is work? Clutch slips quite badly and it's extremely hard to put into 3rd when it's cold, the synchro is crunchy as hell. It's still driveable but it's impossible to move off smoothly now due to clutch judder.
el_bandido
22-12-2019, 04:04 PM #17

mattlaw If you need a place to get parts delivered to you could always get them sent to me at work, u say the drivetrain is wrecked? Why not pop to my work Tomoz an ill look it over for you?

Where abouts is work? Clutch slips quite badly and it's extremely hard to put into 3rd when it's cold, the synchro is crunchy as hell. It's still driveable but it's impossible to move off smoothly now due to clutch judder.

mattlaw
Senior Member
572
22-12-2019, 04:07 PM
#18
Work is lexus Manchester lol, you'd probably be best getting a new clutch and a second hand gearbox from a breakers and chucking it all in at the same time, is200 gearboxes ar cheap enough
mattlaw
22-12-2019, 04:07 PM #18

Work is lexus Manchester lol, you'd probably be best getting a new clutch and a second hand gearbox from a breakers and chucking it all in at the same time, is200 gearboxes ar cheap enough

el_bandido
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2,757
22-12-2019, 04:13 PM
#19
yep, I've already found a dirt cheap low mileage engine and box. Stav recommends the gte clutch so I'll probably just use that. I will almost definitely take you up on that delivery offer though, will be in touch hopefully at the end of the month.

You guys don't have any weekend work going do you? This probably sounds sad as **** but I really miss cleaning cars.
el_bandido
22-12-2019, 04:13 PM #19

yep, I've already found a dirt cheap low mileage engine and box. Stav recommends the gte clutch so I'll probably just use that. I will almost definitely take you up on that delivery offer though, will be in touch hopefully at the end of the month.

You guys don't have any weekend work going do you? This probably sounds sad as **** but I really miss cleaning cars.

mattlaw
Senior Member
572
22-12-2019, 04:21 PM
#20
Sorry mate no, we're not open Sundays an the workshop is only open half day Saturdays, just let me know when you want anything mate
mattlaw
22-12-2019, 04:21 PM #20

Sorry mate no, we're not open Sundays an the workshop is only open half day Saturdays, just let me know when you want anything mate

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