Renault Race Fixing
Renault Race Fixing
06-08-2016, 10:17 PM
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06-08-2016, 10:17 PM #31There's a good summary of this whole sorry tale, and how things have got to where we are now, here. Interesting to read Briatore's "outrage" at being accused of race-fixing, at the time he was denying it, and himself accusing the Piquet family of blackmail. Says a lot about his character, I guess (as opposed to Pat Symonds who simply refused to answer questions where he would incriminate himself).
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07-08-2016, 05:45 AM
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
07-08-2016, 05:45 AM #32Telemetry tells the story. All they have to prove is "was the driver told to crash" - then it is all over for Renault.
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07-08-2016, 07:29 AM
2tongues Telemetry tells the story. All they have to prove is "was the driver told to crash" - then it is all over for Renault.
I don't think they even have to prove it, because Renault aren't denying it.
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07-08-2016, 07:29 AM #332tongues Telemetry tells the story. All they have to prove is "was the driver told to crash" - then it is all over for Renault.
I don't think they even have to prove it, because Renault aren't denying it.
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07-08-2016, 08:01 AM
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07-08-2016, 08:01 AM #34Interestingly it appears that Piquet Senior told Charlie Whiting (of the FIA) about this last season, but at that point Nelson Piquet was refusing to make a statement on it. Info here.
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08-08-2016, 11:22 PM
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08-08-2016, 11:22 PM #35It seems that Piquet has been granted immunity by the FIA, so it'll just be Renault who face big trouble. Details here.
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09-08-2016, 02:47 AM
steviewevie It seems that Piquet has been granted immunity by the FIA, so it'll just be Renault who face big trouble. Details here.
Yep Piquet and Symonds were both granted immunity, seems they wanted to go after Briatore.........
But still Piquet is completely unemployable now, can't imagine anyone getting him on board unless he brought serious financial backing.
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steviewevie It seems that Piquet has been granted immunity by the FIA, so it'll just be Renault who face big trouble. Details here.
Yep Piquet and Symonds were both granted immunity, seems they wanted to go after Briatore.........
But still Piquet is completely unemployable now, can't imagine anyone getting him on board unless he brought serious financial backing.
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10-08-2016, 03:42 AM
Nelson Piquet arrives at the hearing in Paris on Monday
Renault have been given a two-year suspended ban for their role in fixing last year's Singapore Grand Prix.
The team were called before governing body the FIA to answer charges they had asked driver Nelson Piquet Jr to crash to help team-mate Fernando Alonso win.
Former team boss Flavio Briatore has been banned from FIA sanctioned events for an unlimited period.
Renault's ex-engineering director Pat Symonds has also been excluded from F1 for five years.
The plan to deliberately crash was their idea, Piquet told the FIA.
Briatore and Symonds parted company with Renault last week at the same time as the French car giant said they would not contest the charges.
Renault handed suspended F1 ban
Nelson Piquet arrives at the hearing in Paris on Monday
Renault have been given a two-year suspended ban for their role in fixing last year's Singapore Grand Prix.
The team were called before governing body the FIA to answer charges they had asked driver Nelson Piquet Jr to crash to help team-mate Fernando Alonso win.
Former team boss Flavio Briatore has been banned from FIA sanctioned events for an unlimited period.
Renault's ex-engineering director Pat Symonds has also been excluded from F1 for five years.
The plan to deliberately crash was their idea, Piquet told the FIA.
Briatore and Symonds parted company with Renault last week at the same time as the French car giant said they would not contest the charges.
10-08-2016, 03:48 AM
they got off extremely lightly seing as mclaren got fined 100 million
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10-08-2016, 03:48 AM #38whats the point in a suspended ban
they got off extremely lightly seing as mclaren got fined 100 million
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10-08-2016, 04:26 AM
aaronabbott whats the point in a suspended ban
they got off extremely lightly seing as mclaren got fined 100 million
It does seem a little odd, but I imagine they have conclusive evidence that it was just between Briatore, Symonds and Piquet and that no one else at all was even remotely involved.
I guess the difference was that Renault was not a front running team and this didn't really affect the championship.
In contrast, "Spygate" coincided perfectly with McLaren's sudden jump forward in performance, so it would be almost impossible to work out exactly how much they benefitted from the stolen Ferrari secrets.
Therefore by cheating they would have won the constructors title and several millions in prize money and I think that was why they came down so hard on McLaren.
In any case I do agree with you though, understand why the punishment could be lighter for Renault, but this seems too light, they should have at least got a whopping fine to go with the suspended ban.
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aaronabbott whats the point in a suspended ban
they got off extremely lightly seing as mclaren got fined 100 million
It does seem a little odd, but I imagine they have conclusive evidence that it was just between Briatore, Symonds and Piquet and that no one else at all was even remotely involved.
I guess the difference was that Renault was not a front running team and this didn't really affect the championship.
In contrast, "Spygate" coincided perfectly with McLaren's sudden jump forward in performance, so it would be almost impossible to work out exactly how much they benefitted from the stolen Ferrari secrets.
Therefore by cheating they would have won the constructors title and several millions in prize money and I think that was why they came down so hard on McLaren.
In any case I do agree with you though, understand why the punishment could be lighter for Renault, but this seems too light, they should have at least got a whopping fine to go with the suspended ban.
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10-08-2016, 04:46 AM
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10-08-2016, 04:46 AM #40It does seem a pretty light punishment. Though having said that, what's suspended is a permanent ban from the sport for them.
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