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3sgte differences

Sparkystav
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14,683
02-09-2020, 01:52 AM
#1
Can anyone help me please,

I've found out the valve springs from the celica 3sgte are the same part number as the ones for the 1ggte so I can swap them for updated ones, but the part number for the mr2 3sgte and 3sge are different.

How did the engine vary between the versions?

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Sparkystav
02-09-2020, 01:52 AM #1

Can anyone help me please,

I've found out the valve springs from the celica 3sgte are the same part number as the ones for the 1ggte so I can swap them for updated ones, but the part number for the mr2 3sgte and 3sge are different.

How did the engine vary between the versions?


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FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
02-09-2020, 02:14 AM
#2
Toxo!!!!

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
02-09-2020, 02:14 AM #2

Toxo!!!!


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
02-09-2020, 10:02 AM
#3
You need to know what age Celica. There are 4 revisions of the 3S-GTE.

Version 1: Celica ST165 (1985(?) - 1988)
Version 2: Celica ST185 & revision 1-2 MR2 (1989 - 1993)
Version 3: Celica ST205 & revision 3-5 MR2 (like mine was 1994-2000)
Version 4: Caldina ST246 (2001+)

If your part number really is unique to Celicas then it may be an ST165 part. But if you're comparing to MR2 numbers the parts for the older engine (has an AFM and TVIS so 8 inlet runners w/butterfly valves) can be different to the later version (MAP sensor, no TVIS so 4 inlet runners)
toxo
02-09-2020, 10:02 AM #3

You need to know what age Celica. There are 4 revisions of the 3S-GTE.

Version 1: Celica ST165 (1985(?) - 1988)
Version 2: Celica ST185 & revision 1-2 MR2 (1989 - 1993)
Version 3: Celica ST205 & revision 3-5 MR2 (like mine was 1994-2000)
Version 4: Caldina ST246 (2001+)

If your part number really is unique to Celicas then it may be an ST165 part. But if you're comparing to MR2 numbers the parts for the older engine (has an AFM and TVIS so 8 inlet runners w/butterfly valves) can be different to the later version (MAP sensor, no TVIS so 4 inlet runners)

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
02-09-2020, 10:04 AM
#4
My money would be on it sharing parts with the ST165 and possibly ST185.
toxo
02-09-2020, 10:04 AM #4

My money would be on it sharing parts with the ST165 and possibly ST185.

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
02-09-2020, 10:14 AM
#5
Yeah it's the oldest one, how rare are they?

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Sparkystav
02-09-2020, 10:14 AM #5

Yeah it's the oldest one, how rare are they?


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toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
02-09-2020, 10:14 AM
#6
I see now, you're looking at 90501-32022 which is shared between the 1G-GTE and the earliest 3S-GTE from the ST165. Not a part ever used in the ones that went in the MR2, or anything else from the 90s.
toxo
02-09-2020, 10:14 AM #6

I see now, you're looking at 90501-32022 which is shared between the 1G-GTE and the earliest 3S-GTE from the ST165. Not a part ever used in the ones that went in the MR2, or anything else from the 90s.

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
02-09-2020, 10:15 AM
#7
Rare as F, never seen one. Only went in the Celica and the ancient 3S-GE which was in a small selection of JDM-only cars
toxo
02-09-2020, 10:15 AM #7

Rare as F, never seen one. Only went in the Celica and the ancient 3S-GE which was in a small selection of JDM-only cars

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
02-09-2020, 10:56 AM
#8
So up rated parts will be even rarer, lol no up rated valve springs for me then

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Sparkystav
02-09-2020, 10:56 AM #8

So up rated parts will be even rarer, lol no up rated valve springs for me then


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toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
02-09-2020, 10:57 AM
#9
You never know - the GT4/Alltrac was popular in the states and aus so you might have some luck if you go international.
toxo
02-09-2020, 10:57 AM #9

You never know - the GT4/Alltrac was popular in the states and aus so you might have some luck if you go international.

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
02-09-2020, 11:00 AM
#10
For example http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36648
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