SSDs
SSDs
I've noticed SSDs are now filtering into the market, with them being options when speccing some new computers. I was chatting to an IT guy a few weeks ago, but didn't get into much detail (mainly because I had had a few :drink
but he was saying that if you put windows on its own SSD using the hard drive just to store info, the whole machine will be so much faster.My questions are:
How true is that?
How easy is it to implement?
How much will it cost?
How reliable would a setup like this be?
Been considering upgrading to windows 7 in the next few months, so might try this as well if it sounds like a good idea.
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This is a question for all the IT gurus out there
I've noticed SSDs are now filtering into the market, with them being options when speccing some new computers. I was chatting to an IT guy a few weeks ago, but didn't get into much detail (mainly because I had had a few :drink but he was saying that if you put windows on its own SSD using the hard drive just to store info, the whole machine will be so much faster.
My questions are:
How true is that?
How easy is it to implement?
How much will it cost?
How reliable would a setup like this be?
Been considering upgrading to windows 7 in the next few months, so might try this as well if it sounds like a good idea.
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2) most are very easy to implement as they should be plug and play
3) cost is their downfall they are very expensive and not worth it atm imo
4) afaik they are very reliable as they have no moving parts inside them
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30-10-2016, 03:25 AM #21) he's right SSD's are a lot faster and you don't need to defrag them either.
2) most are very easy to implement as they should be plug and play
3) cost is their downfall they are very expensive and not worth it atm imo
4) afaik they are very reliable as they have no moving parts inside them
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IMO they are too expensive atm.
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While you do not need to defrag, the drive will start to slow down with use. Newer drives work with windows to reshuffle the files to negate this. They use standard connectors so are as easy to install as any other hard disk but will not last as long as they have a maximum number of read/write cycles. However they do not fail due to impact or motor/bearing faliure as they have no moving parts: which is also why they are so fast.
IMO they are too expensive atm.
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so like big pen drives?
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30-10-2016, 03:57 AM #4i assume these are Solid state drives?
so like big pen drives?
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Yes they do seem quite expensive at the mo, but could you get a small one just for windows and then use a normal hard drive for everything else? What size would you need for that? Or is that not a good idea as you wouldn't get the speed advantage unless everything was on the SSD?
@ Stav: Yep they're like a big flash drive
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Thanks for those replies, in terms of limited read/write cycles, what sort of number are we talking about? Will it last say 10 years, or is it much shorter than that?
Yes they do seem quite expensive at the mo, but could you get a small one just for windows and then use a normal hard drive for everything else? What size would you need for that? Or is that not a good idea as you wouldn't get the speed advantage unless everything was on the SSD?
@ Stav: Yep they're like a big flash drive
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30-10-2016, 04:34 AM #6yep I had a similar setup with a old raptor hard drive mate imo around 80gb for windows and basics then a storage sata2 drive.
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Dan_Turism0 yep I had a similar setup with a old raptor hard drive mate imo around 80gb for windows and basics then a storage sata2 drive.
Cool, will have to give it some thought then, it looks like 32gb is about £120 and 64gb is about £200 so could use something like that. Bit of a numpty question, but how much would you need to have on the SSD to take advantage of the speed benefits? Is it windows and all programs, or just windows? I'd imagine that 64gb would be more than enough in either case?
What exactly is the difference between multi and single layer cells (except that the singles seem to cost way more than the multi ones)?
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Dan_Turism0 yep I had a similar setup with a old raptor hard drive mate imo around 80gb for windows and basics then a storage sata2 drive.
Cool, will have to give it some thought then, it looks like 32gb is about £120 and 64gb is about £200 so could use something like that. Bit of a numpty question, but how much would you need to have on the SSD to take advantage of the speed benefits? Is it windows and all programs, or just windows? I'd imagine that 64gb would be more than enough in either case?
What exactly is the difference between multi and single layer cells (except that the singles seem to cost way more than the multi ones)?
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2) anything you store on the hd will take advantage of the speed
3) 64gb would be enough for most people as a general rule of thumb allow 10gb for windows installation (in reality it's a lot less, think vista is around 7gb with all the gubbins)
4) not sure on the cell technology within ssd's as i've not looked into them in any great detail due to the cost and in reality i'm happy to wait 3extra seconds for something to load
over spending an extra £120
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30-10-2016, 04:53 AM #8urm first question is a hard one to answer as i've never tried/tested a ssd but I guess it's general apps,loading times etc will be a lot quicker aswell as boot times.
2) anything you store on the hd will take advantage of the speed
3) 64gb would be enough for most people as a general rule of thumb allow 10gb for windows installation (in reality it's a lot less, think vista is around 7gb with all the gubbins)
4) not sure on the cell technology within ssd's as i've not looked into them in any great detail due to the cost and in reality i'm happy to wait 3extra seconds for something to load over spending an extra £120
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.Windows 7 boots from cold into the desktop and is usable within 15 -20 secs and I have not even tweaked it yet!
Very expensive and I don't really think they are worth it for a normal desktop user, but in environments where the drive can get subjected to vibration and shock I would recommend them.
I am testing a SSDD with a dual core intel Atom processor, 4Gb Ram and Windows 7 at the moment for a project .
Windows 7 boots from cold into the desktop and is usable within 15 -20 secs and I have not even tweaked it yet!
Very expensive and I don't really think they are worth it for a normal desktop user, but in environments where the drive can get subjected to vibration and shock I would recommend them.
Personally I don't think £100ish is too much to spend if it makes a huge difference in speed, so really interested to hear how you get on with this setup
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Wow, although I don't have a lot of experience with Win7, how quick does it normally boot?
Personally I don't think £100ish is too much to spend if it makes a huge difference in speed, so really interested to hear how you get on with this setup
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