F1 tyre rule change for 2010
F1 tyre rule change for 2010
22-12-2016, 04:36 AM
Also, the amount of points difference between first and second place has been increased, the points are now 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.
More info >>here<<
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steviewevie
22-12-2016, 04:36 AM #1This was suggested by the teams recently, and has just been ratified. The top 10 starters in the race will have to begin the race on the tyres they set their fastest times on.
Also, the amount of points difference between first and second place has been increased, the points are now 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.
More info >>here<<
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22-12-2016, 04:55 AM
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****, I was hoping that wouldn't come in, I want to see the absolute quickest times in quali, and then the quickest people at the front of the grid - not a big jumble because some had to use hard tyres in quali to not compromise their race........
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22-12-2016, 05:02 AM
parthiban ****, I was hoping that wouldn't come in, I want to see the absolute quickest times in quali, and then the quickest people at the front of the grid - not a big jumble because some had to use hard tyres in quali to not compromise their race........
I know what you mean, but the trouble is that with no refuelling for 2010, would it lead to a boring race ?
What we *really* need is decent overtaking (on the track !) though. The effort by the teams to come up with aerodynamic stuff for 2009 to boost overtaking seems to have failed dismally ...
Interestingly, I see that "BMW Sauber" are still going to be called that (for reasons of prize money etc), even though they have no connection with BMW any more and are running a Ferrari engine ! :blink:
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22-12-2016, 05:02 AM #3parthiban ****, I was hoping that wouldn't come in, I want to see the absolute quickest times in quali, and then the quickest people at the front of the grid - not a big jumble because some had to use hard tyres in quali to not compromise their race........
I know what you mean, but the trouble is that with no refuelling for 2010, would it lead to a boring race ?
What we *really* need is decent overtaking (on the track !) though. The effort by the teams to come up with aerodynamic stuff for 2009 to boost overtaking seems to have failed dismally ...
Interestingly, I see that "BMW Sauber" are still going to be called that (for reasons of prize money etc), even though they have no connection with BMW any more and are running a Ferrari engine ! :blink:
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22-12-2016, 05:12 AM
I did see that and thought people were just calling it that - I guess it must be that it was too late to change the name by the time they got it all together as Mercedes were able to change their team name and not be affected by it?
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You're right about the overtaking, they need to go more aggressive with limiting the aero rules. I don't know why they've reduced the tyre grip - imho that's the wrong way, they should be increasing tyre grip and reducing aero.
I did see that and thought people were just calling it that - I guess it must be that it was too late to change the name by the time they got it all together as Mercedes were able to change their team name and not be affected by it?
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22-12-2016, 05:19 AM
parthiban You're right about the overtaking, they need to go more aggressive with limiting the aero rules. I don't know why they've reduced the tyre grip - imho that's the wrong way, they should be increasing tyre grip and reducing aero.Agree totally, I don't understand why they're going back to reducing the tyre grip either, guess it's a quick fix to slow them down a bit ?
I think it might be good if they could make an aerodynamic device which meant it was actually *beneficial* to be just behind another car, e.g. something that creates a proper slipstream.
Quote:I did see that and thought people were just calling it that - I guess it must be that it was too late to change the name by the time they got it all together as Mercedes were able to change their team name and not be affected by it?It does seem a bit odd, a bit of info (but not much !) on that >>here<<
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22-12-2016, 05:19 AM #5parthiban You're right about the overtaking, they need to go more aggressive with limiting the aero rules. I don't know why they've reduced the tyre grip - imho that's the wrong way, they should be increasing tyre grip and reducing aero.Agree totally, I don't understand why they're going back to reducing the tyre grip either, guess it's a quick fix to slow them down a bit ?
I think it might be good if they could make an aerodynamic device which meant it was actually *beneficial* to be just behind another car, e.g. something that creates a proper slipstream.
Quote:I did see that and thought people were just calling it that - I guess it must be that it was too late to change the name by the time they got it all together as Mercedes were able to change their team name and not be affected by it?It does seem a bit odd, a bit of info (but not much !) on that >>here<<
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22-12-2016, 05:25 AM
It used to be possible not that long ago, so all they have to do is undo whatever was done to create this - easy to say I know! :biggrin:
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Yep not sure if it's possible but someone needs to look at these cars in a wind tunnel and figure out what exactly about the design of a modern F1 car makes the air behind the car turbulent preventing another car from being able to follow closely.
It used to be possible not that long ago, so all they have to do is undo whatever was done to create this - easy to say I know! :biggrin:
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23-12-2016, 03:40 AM
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
23-12-2016, 03:40 AM #7Yea it is possible, but not in the interest of the front runners.........
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
23-12-2016, 04:58 AM
2tongues Yea it is possible, but not in the interest of the front runners.........
Surely it is though isn't it? So many times you see a McLaren behind a Ferrari (or vice versa) where the car behind is faster (it happened to Kimi all through 2008) but can't get close enough because of the turbulent air.
I understand what you're saying but I think it can be argued both ways.
On a separate note it's interesting that Ferrari "appears" to be the quickest car at the mo, but I'm looking forward to seeing Lewis and Schumacher hunt them down :biggrin:
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2tongues Yea it is possible, but not in the interest of the front runners.........
Surely it is though isn't it? So many times you see a McLaren behind a Ferrari (or vice versa) where the car behind is faster (it happened to Kimi all through 2008) but can't get close enough because of the turbulent air.
I understand what you're saying but I think it can be argued both ways.
On a separate note it's interesting that Ferrari "appears" to be the quickest car at the mo, but I'm looking forward to seeing Lewis and Schumacher hunt them down :biggrin:
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23-12-2016, 05:44 AM
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
23-12-2016, 05:44 AM #9It will be a fantastic start to the new season thats for sure, this year as far as I can see everyone has a competitive package from the off.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
23-12-2016, 08:14 AM
It's annoying Ferrari are so far ahead of the others, but there's plenty of time for everyone to catch up and we also have no idea about the fuel loads they're all currently running on.
The more surprising thing is that on all three days Sauber and even more interestingly de la rosa have been second fastest - I hope that's genuine speed as it would be great for them to have some good results next year after everything that happened with BMW.
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No you generally want to start a race on brand spanking new tyres if you can - it gives you a bit of extra purchase off the line as well as just generally being better for the first few laps.
It's annoying Ferrari are so far ahead of the others, but there's plenty of time for everyone to catch up and we also have no idea about the fuel loads they're all currently running on.
The more surprising thing is that on all three days Sauber and even more interestingly de la rosa have been second fastest - I hope that's genuine speed as it would be great for them to have some good results next year after everything that happened with BMW.
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