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Audio upgrade in an S NOT an SE

Audio upgrade in an S NOT an SE

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Phil01
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28-12-2016, 02:04 PM
#1
Hi Guys,
I have an S grade 200 without premium sound system.
I took my head unit out and replaced it with a clarion mp3 radio/cd,
Once fitted the bass response was poor/non existent, when I had this clarion fitted in my MR2, and a corolla the bass produced was amazing, you could feel it.
So the question is why does it sound so tinny in my Lex, but great in other cars.
I wish to fit a double din HU but dont want to waste £200+ just to get c**p sound.
When I refitted original Hu the bass returned.
Does the S model have an amp and do I need amp by pass lead. Do not want to fit additional amp, sub etc, because the sound from OEM is very good and just needed a HU upgrade to play digital music files.
Help me please.
Phil
Phil01
28-12-2016, 02:04 PM #1

Hi Guys,
I have an S grade 200 without premium sound system.
I took my head unit out and replaced it with a clarion mp3 radio/cd,
Once fitted the bass response was poor/non existent, when I had this clarion fitted in my MR2, and a corolla the bass produced was amazing, you could feel it.
So the question is why does it sound so tinny in my Lex, but great in other cars.
I wish to fit a double din HU but dont want to waste £200+ just to get c**p sound.
When I refitted original Hu the bass returned.
Does the S model have an amp and do I need amp by pass lead. Do not want to fit additional amp, sub etc, because the sound from OEM is very good and just needed a HU upgrade to play digital music files.
Help me please.
Phil

Bandit
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6,464
28-12-2016, 02:30 PM
#2
You'll probably find its the speakers mate, i did the same with mine and it sounded very poor, mine was the sport model with the amp and had the 8 speaker system fitted? Has yours got the 6 speaker setup or the 8? think the S model had the 6?

Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


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Bandit
28-12-2016, 02:30 PM #2

You'll probably find its the speakers mate, i did the same with mine and it sounded very poor, mine was the sport model with the amp and had the 8 speaker system fitted? Has yours got the 6 speaker setup or the 8? think the S model had the 6?


Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!

Dark Samurai
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28-12-2016, 02:32 PM
#3
Well phil, you need to buy a supercharger to get the best sound from any HU Wink lol
But yeah, the bass in the MR2 was pretty good, not as good as the 200, but not far off really.
Its the S 6 speaker model mate @BANDIT
Edited 09-02-2010, 12:06 AM by Dark Samurai.

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Dark Samurai
28-12-2016, 02:32 PM #3

Well phil, you need to buy a supercharger to get the best sound from any HU Wink lol
But yeah, the bass in the MR2 was pretty good, not as good as the 200, but not far off really.
Its the S 6 speaker model mate @BANDIT


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Phil01
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28-12-2016, 02:47 PM
#4
Bandit You'll probably find its the speakers mate, i did the same with mine and it sounded very poor, mine was the sport model with the amp and had the 8 speaker system fitted? Has yours got the 6 speaker setup or the 8? think the S model had the 6?
Why would it be the speakers mate? sounds good with OEM HU, but c**p with Clarion 4x40watt, Hyper bass expander, sounded superb in other cars but no good in Lex
Yes 6 speaker system

Oli wot you still doing up. get to bed lol
Edited 09-02-2010, 12:25 AM by Phil01.
Phil01
28-12-2016, 02:47 PM #4

Bandit You'll probably find its the speakers mate, i did the same with mine and it sounded very poor, mine was the sport model with the amp and had the 8 speaker system fitted? Has yours got the 6 speaker setup or the 8? think the S model had the 6?
Why would it be the speakers mate? sounds good with OEM HU, but c**p with Clarion 4x40watt, Hyper bass expander, sounded superb in other cars but no good in Lex
Yes 6 speaker system

Oli wot you still doing up. get to bed lol

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
28-12-2016, 02:48 PM
#5
because their not designed for a normal stereo system, their rated for another resistance than normal (either 2 or 4 ohms)

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Sparkystav
28-12-2016, 02:48 PM #5

because their not designed for a normal stereo system, their rated for another resistance than normal (either 2 or 4 ohms)


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Dark Samurai
Posting Freak
4,957
28-12-2016, 02:53 PM
#6
Yeah im going now.
Just for the rabbit Smile :Bazza:

Lexus IS300 Sportcross in Platinum Ice.
Click here for garage.

PSN ID: O3107 
Dark Samurai
28-12-2016, 02:53 PM #6

Yeah im going now.
Just for the rabbit Smile :Bazza:


Lexus IS300 Sportcross in Platinum Ice.
Click here for garage.

PSN ID: O3107 

Phil01
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28-12-2016, 02:58 PM
#7
Sparkystav because their not designed for a normal stereo system, their rated for another resistance than normal (either 2 or 4 ohms)
Cheers mate, so its all down to resistance,
Never had any probs with speaker resistance when I used to fit mega sounds in my car 15 yrs ago, ran amps with 2 and 4 ohms and mixed front and rear ohms resistance with hardly any noticeable sound quality, maybe less overhaul volume,
but never knocking that much bass out.
Wots the speaker ohms value in Lex, 2, 4
Phil01
28-12-2016, 02:58 PM #7

Sparkystav because their not designed for a normal stereo system, their rated for another resistance than normal (either 2 or 4 ohms)
Cheers mate, so its all down to resistance,
Never had any probs with speaker resistance when I used to fit mega sounds in my car 15 yrs ago, ran amps with 2 and 4 ohms and mixed front and rear ohms resistance with hardly any noticeable sound quality, maybe less overhaul volume,
but never knocking that much bass out.
Wots the speaker ohms value in Lex, 2, 4

Bandit
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28-12-2016, 02:59 PM
#8
As Stav says mate, the speakers are rated different in the is200 for some bizarre reason, think there 2ohms in the is200? I ended up swapping all mine to normal speakers in the end so i could get the use out of my new headunit:biggrin:

Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!
Bandit
28-12-2016, 02:59 PM #8

As Stav says mate, the speakers are rated different in the is200 for some bizarre reason, think there 2ohms in the is200? I ended up swapping all mine to normal speakers in the end so i could get the use out of my new headunit:biggrin:


Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!

Phil01
Posting Freak
2,004
28-12-2016, 03:07 PM
#9
any one got an old OEM HU 13096 for S with no amp, even if it has the dreaded error3, as I can then fit a GROM adaptor to play ipod,
My OEM HU will not switch to CD mode so the Grom adaptor will never be regognised.
Can not be bothered with speaker swap, mounting plates for rear shelf etc, unless any one has speakers and wooden plinths for sale.
Phil01
28-12-2016, 03:07 PM #9

any one got an old OEM HU 13096 for S with no amp, even if it has the dreaded error3, as I can then fit a GROM adaptor to play ipod,
My OEM HU will not switch to CD mode so the Grom adaptor will never be regognised.
Can not be bothered with speaker swap, mounting plates for rear shelf etc, unless any one has speakers and wooden plinths for sale.

Phil01
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2,004
28-12-2016, 03:10 PM
#10
will the tweeters be ok or will they need swapping as well, as they are very ohms sensitive
Phil01
28-12-2016, 03:10 PM #10

will the tweeters be ok or will they need swapping as well, as they are very ohms sensitive

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