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parthiban
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12-01-2017, 04:08 AM
#1
Following on from my can I stick my wireless router in a cupboard thread, I'm now thinking about moving my whole PC into the cupboard and running necessary cables through the wall/floor and use a faceplate for all the exterior connections (going to redecorate, hence these plans)

Just want to make sure I have everything covered so I don't find myself short a socket in the future, what should I have outside the cupboard to make sure I won't have problems?

I'm thinking I need HDMI (x2), possibly a composite, a few USBs and audio (RCA, optical and maybe 3.5mm in and out for a headset)

Is there anything else I should add?

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
12-01-2017, 04:08 AM #1

Following on from my can I stick my wireless router in a cupboard thread, I'm now thinking about moving my whole PC into the cupboard and running necessary cables through the wall/floor and use a faceplate for all the exterior connections (going to redecorate, hence these plans)

Just want to make sure I have everything covered so I don't find myself short a socket in the future, what should I have outside the cupboard to make sure I won't have problems?

I'm thinking I need HDMI (x2), possibly a composite, a few USBs and audio (RCA, optical and maybe 3.5mm in and out for a headset)

Is there anything else I should add?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

parthiban
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4,925
12-01-2017, 04:10 AM
#2
Also is it ok to put it in the cupboard in the first place or will that be really bad for ventilation? It's essentially the bottom of a wardrobe, so a fairly large space and not sealed, but with the doors closed most of the time there won't be a huge amount of air moving around.

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
12-01-2017, 04:10 AM #2

Also is it ok to put it in the cupboard in the first place or will that be really bad for ventilation? It's essentially the bottom of a wardrobe, so a fairly large space and not sealed, but with the doors closed most of the time there won't be a huge amount of air moving around.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

steviewevie
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7,993
12-01-2017, 04:25 AM
#3
Yeah you need to be very wary about the ventilation. It might be ok this time of year, but how hot will that room (and cupboard) get in the summer ?

I don't think it will be safe to leave it in there without some sort of extra ventilation. Shouldn't need that much though.

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IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
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steviewevie
12-01-2017, 04:25 AM #3

Yeah you need to be very wary about the ventilation. It might be ok this time of year, but how hot will that room (and cupboard) get in the summer ?

I don't think it will be safe to leave it in there without some sort of extra ventilation. Shouldn't need that much though.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

parthiban
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4,925
12-01-2017, 04:46 AM
#4
There is airconditioning, but with it off the room does get quite hot in the summer as it gets a lot of sun - so would imagine the cupboard would get even hotter or would it be less hot as it's in the shade?

Maybe this is a bad idea then.......

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
12-01-2017, 04:46 AM #4

There is airconditioning, but with it off the room does get quite hot in the summer as it gets a lot of sun - so would imagine the cupboard would get even hotter or would it be less hot as it's in the shade?

Maybe this is a bad idea then.......


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Dan_Turism0
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2,825
12-01-2017, 04:52 AM
#5
monitor cable, peripheral adapters if needed to increase length.

Again heat is the issue make sure temps on cpu/gpu (realtemp is a excellent programme for this) are not getting too high, also worth cleaning the case out from time to time as in a cupboard it's likely to attract a lot of dust.

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Dan_Turism0
12-01-2017, 04:52 AM #5

monitor cable, peripheral adapters if needed to increase length.

Again heat is the issue make sure temps on cpu/gpu (realtemp is a excellent programme for this) are not getting too high, also worth cleaning the case out from time to time as in a cupboard it's likely to attract a lot of dust.


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parthiban
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4,925
12-01-2017, 05:02 AM
#6
Cheers for that, had no idea there were temperature sensors on board - although using the screenshot on their page, is the maximum safe operating temp really 100 degrees? I'll have to see what mine is currently running at out in the open.

I do vacuum out the case every so often anyway, but that's interesting as I thought it would attract less dust in a cupboard (hence why we put clothes in them :tongue_smilieSmile

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
12-01-2017, 05:02 AM #6

Cheers for that, had no idea there were temperature sensors on board - although using the screenshot on their page, is the maximum safe operating temp really 100 degrees? I'll have to see what mine is currently running at out in the open.

I do vacuum out the case every so often anyway, but that's interesting as I thought it would attract less dust in a cupboard (hence why we put clothes in them :tongue_smilieSmile


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Saraj
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2,791
12-01-2017, 06:00 AM
#7
parthiban Cheers for that, had no idea there were temperature sensors on board - although using the screenshot on their page, is the maximum safe operating temp really 100 degrees? I'll have to see what mine is currently running at out in the open.

I do vacuum out the case every so often anyway, but that's interesting as I thought it would attract less dust in a cupboard (hence why we put clothes in them :tongue_smilieSmile

100 degrees celcius? no thats a bit high, my laptop gets to that when playing games to the max

you would expect abour 60-70 idleing, then about 85 under some pressure all depens what you want to use it for. ventilation can be a problem but keep enought fans in it and some holes in the cupboard you should be fine in my opinions, download that software and i think you can set alarms so if it goes over a certain temp it will alert you which would be useful

your idea is very good, and something i would love to do ! and the cables you mentioned above is ideal, however i would increase the amount of HDMI's to make it more future proof.

Also maybe worth a VGA port aswell just in case? its the just in case ones which can hit you if you dont have it, but yet again theres plenty of adaptors and converters on the market anyhow

if you do go ahead i would love to know how you get on !

[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]
Saraj
12-01-2017, 06:00 AM #7

parthiban Cheers for that, had no idea there were temperature sensors on board - although using the screenshot on their page, is the maximum safe operating temp really 100 degrees? I'll have to see what mine is currently running at out in the open.

I do vacuum out the case every so often anyway, but that's interesting as I thought it would attract less dust in a cupboard (hence why we put clothes in them :tongue_smilieSmile

100 degrees celcius? no thats a bit high, my laptop gets to that when playing games to the max

you would expect abour 60-70 idleing, then about 85 under some pressure all depens what you want to use it for. ventilation can be a problem but keep enought fans in it and some holes in the cupboard you should be fine in my opinions, download that software and i think you can set alarms so if it goes over a certain temp it will alert you which would be useful

your idea is very good, and something i would love to do ! and the cables you mentioned above is ideal, however i would increase the amount of HDMI's to make it more future proof.

Also maybe worth a VGA port aswell just in case? its the just in case ones which can hit you if you dont have it, but yet again theres plenty of adaptors and converters on the market anyhow

if you do go ahead i would love to know how you get on !


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

steviewevie
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7,993
12-01-2017, 06:02 AM
#8
Yeah at the minimum your PC will have at least one temperature sensor, possibly more. The safe temperature depends on the CPU etc, they can get really hot ! As you say, measure and check what it's normal operating temp is with ventilation, then if you try putting it in the cupboard, you'll need to create some extra ventilation and monitor it at first (especially if the weather ever gets warm again !) to see how it's faring.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
12-01-2017, 06:02 AM #8

Yeah at the minimum your PC will have at least one temperature sensor, possibly more. The safe temperature depends on the CPU etc, they can get really hot ! As you say, measure and check what it's normal operating temp is with ventilation, then if you try putting it in the cupboard, you'll need to create some extra ventilation and monitor it at first (especially if the weather ever gets warm again !) to see how it's faring.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Rabster
Posting Freak
10,234
12-01-2017, 06:10 AM
#9
I have my Pc in my in a cupboard and ran all the cables around the flat whilst i was decorating i used the following connections
HDMI x2
VGA X1
3.5stereo
Phono Left right
PHono left Right input
Network point

I have a wireless keboard and mouse so didnt need a usb but i wish i had done now

all i would say is think ahaead as to if you will be changing the pc

are the walls plasterboard mine were so i could chase inside the walls easily but not on the exterior wall that required channeling out etc


you can get pre made plates that cover all the connections on a site CPC.co.uk

Rabs
Rabster
12-01-2017, 06:10 AM #9

I have my Pc in my in a cupboard and ran all the cables around the flat whilst i was decorating i used the following connections
HDMI x2
VGA X1
3.5stereo
Phono Left right
PHono left Right input
Network point

I have a wireless keboard and mouse so didnt need a usb but i wish i had done now

all i would say is think ahaead as to if you will be changing the pc

are the walls plasterboard mine were so i could chase inside the walls easily but not on the exterior wall that required channeling out etc


you can get pre made plates that cover all the connections on a site CPC.co.uk

Rabs

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
12-01-2017, 06:12 AM
#10
In theory it would be fantastic, everything hidden away - and just have the screen mounted on the wall above desk.

However, I'm starting to have second thoughts, the more I think about it the PC will be expelling hot air, so it itself will be heating the cupboard up. So short of leaving the cupboard open all the time (which defeats the point of hiding it all away) I think I won't bother.

I think I'll still hide as many peripherals as I can in the cupboard but prob just leave the tower under the desk.

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
12-01-2017, 06:12 AM #10

In theory it would be fantastic, everything hidden away - and just have the screen mounted on the wall above desk.

However, I'm starting to have second thoughts, the more I think about it the PC will be expelling hot air, so it itself will be heating the cupboard up. So short of leaving the cupboard open all the time (which defeats the point of hiding it all away) I think I won't bother.

I think I'll still hide as many peripherals as I can in the cupboard but prob just leave the tower under the desk.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

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