Ferrari vs the new F1 teams
Ferrari vs the new F1 teams
13-01-2017, 01:44 AM
See their "Horse Whisperer" column on their official website here, excerpts below.
For those who haven't been following what's been going on, the "Serbian vultures" are the Stefan GP team, who haven't been granted a grid slot, but since they've already got a car (and have supposedly signed Jacques Villeneuve), are hoping to replace one of the already-struggling teams (e.g. Campos/US F1).
Quote:Of the thirteen teams who signed up, or were induced to sign up, for this year’s Championship, to date only eleven of them have heeded the call, turning up on track, some later than others, and while some have managed just a few hundred kilometres, others have done more, but at a much reduced pace. As for the twelfth team, Campos Meta, its shareholder and management structure has been transformed, according to rumours which have reached the Horse Whisperer through the paddock telegraph, with a sudden cash injection from a munificent white knight, well used to this sort of last minute rescue deal. However, the beneficiaries of this generosity might find the knight in question expects them to fulfil the role of loyal vassal. All this means, it is hard to imagine the Dallara designed car showing its face at the Catalunya Circuit, with Sakhir a more likely venue to witness the return of the Senna name to a Formula 1 session.
The thirteenth team, USF1, appears to have gone into hiding in Charlotte, North Carolina, to the dismay of those like the Argentinian, Lopez, who thought he had found his way into the Formula 1 paddock, (albeit with help from chairwoman Kirchner, according to the rumours) and now has to start all over again. Amazingly, they still have the impudence to claim that everything is hunky-dory under the starry stripy sky.
Next, we have the Serbian vultures. Firstly, they launched themselves into a quixotic legal battle with the FIA, then they picked the bones of Toyota on its death bed. Having got some people on board, around whom there was still a whiff of past scandals, they are now hovering around waiting to replace whoever is first to drop out of the game, possibly with backing from that very same knight in shining armour whom we mentioned earlier.
This is the legacy of the holy war waged by the former FIA president. The cause in question was to allow smaller teams to get into Formula 1. This is the outcome: two teams will limp into the start of the championship, a third is being pushed into the ring by an invisible hand – you can be sure it is not the hand of Adam Smith – and, as for the fourth, well, you would do better to call on Missing Persons to locate it. In the meantime, we have lost two constructors along the way, in the shape of BMW and Toyota, while at Renault, there’s not much left other than the name. Was it all worth it?
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13-01-2017, 01:44 AM #1Looks like Ferrari aren't too keen on the new F1 teams (no big suprise, given they've been pretty rude about them before).
See their "Horse Whisperer" column on their official website here, excerpts below.
For those who haven't been following what's been going on, the "Serbian vultures" are the Stefan GP team, who haven't been granted a grid slot, but since they've already got a car (and have supposedly signed Jacques Villeneuve), are hoping to replace one of the already-struggling teams (e.g. Campos/US F1).
Quote:Of the thirteen teams who signed up, or were induced to sign up, for this year’s Championship, to date only eleven of them have heeded the call, turning up on track, some later than others, and while some have managed just a few hundred kilometres, others have done more, but at a much reduced pace. As for the twelfth team, Campos Meta, its shareholder and management structure has been transformed, according to rumours which have reached the Horse Whisperer through the paddock telegraph, with a sudden cash injection from a munificent white knight, well used to this sort of last minute rescue deal. However, the beneficiaries of this generosity might find the knight in question expects them to fulfil the role of loyal vassal. All this means, it is hard to imagine the Dallara designed car showing its face at the Catalunya Circuit, with Sakhir a more likely venue to witness the return of the Senna name to a Formula 1 session.
The thirteenth team, USF1, appears to have gone into hiding in Charlotte, North Carolina, to the dismay of those like the Argentinian, Lopez, who thought he had found his way into the Formula 1 paddock, (albeit with help from chairwoman Kirchner, according to the rumours) and now has to start all over again. Amazingly, they still have the impudence to claim that everything is hunky-dory under the starry stripy sky.
Next, we have the Serbian vultures. Firstly, they launched themselves into a quixotic legal battle with the FIA, then they picked the bones of Toyota on its death bed. Having got some people on board, around whom there was still a whiff of past scandals, they are now hovering around waiting to replace whoever is first to drop out of the game, possibly with backing from that very same knight in shining armour whom we mentioned earlier.
This is the legacy of the holy war waged by the former FIA president. The cause in question was to allow smaller teams to get into Formula 1. This is the outcome: two teams will limp into the start of the championship, a third is being pushed into the ring by an invisible hand – you can be sure it is not the hand of Adam Smith – and, as for the fourth, well, you would do better to call on Missing Persons to locate it. In the meantime, we have lost two constructors along the way, in the shape of BMW and Toyota, while at Renault, there’s not much left other than the name. Was it all worth it?
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13-01-2017, 02:52 AM
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I have no idea what Ferrari are doing at the mo, they have Alonso, they have what seems to be a great car, why not just shut up and do their talking on the track? They're setting themselves up for a big fall, and one the whole paddock will be hoping to happen this season (and not just because they want to win, but more that they want Ferrari to lose)
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13-01-2017, 02:55 AM
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13-01-2017, 02:55 AM #3Agree with you Parthi, I used to really like Ferrari but I can't stand them any more, because they acted like this last season and seem to be getting worse if anything. They act like F1 revolves around them. I would love to see them fall flat on their faces. I don't like Alonso either, so Ferrari are at the bottom of my list this season ! I don't suppose it's going to happen, but would love to see one of the new teams beat them ! (even if it's because Ferrari break down/crash out)
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13-01-2017, 03:04 AM
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Yep totally agree about Ferrari and Alonso, if Ferrari do well, I hope it's with Massa driving, otherwise I really want to see Hamilton vs. Schumacher for the title
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13-01-2017, 03:07 AM
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13-01-2017, 03:07 AM #5I do like Massa too. Hope he beats Alonso most of the time. Can't wait for the season to start !
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13-01-2017, 03:21 AM
Ferrari should be happy if the other teams are so poor they may gain another title - without Michael S.
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FirebirdPhil
13-01-2017, 03:21 AM #6This is really gearing up to be the best F1 season of our time.
Ferrari should be happy if the other teams are so poor they may gain another title - without Michael S.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
14-01-2017, 12:04 AM
Marsdendean I really like F1, but just lost touch of what has been going on pre-season
Quick summary - the teams have launched their new cars (remember there is no refuelling this season, so they start the race very heavy), they've been doing testing (Ferrari look very fast, Mclaren and Red Bull and Mercedes doing well), new teams Virgin and Lotus have launched late but started testing too. New teams Campos and US F1 look very shaky and unlikely to make the first few races, what the FIA do about this is up for debate. Stefan GP were one of the teams who applied for a slot this season and missed out, but have a car anyway (ex-Toyota) and are trying to still get onto the grid !
That's the main things off the top of my head
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14-01-2017, 12:04 AM #7Marsdendean I really like F1, but just lost touch of what has been going on pre-season
Quick summary - the teams have launched their new cars (remember there is no refuelling this season, so they start the race very heavy), they've been doing testing (Ferrari look very fast, Mclaren and Red Bull and Mercedes doing well), new teams Virgin and Lotus have launched late but started testing too. New teams Campos and US F1 look very shaky and unlikely to make the first few races, what the FIA do about this is up for debate. Stefan GP were one of the teams who applied for a slot this season and missed out, but have a car anyway (ex-Toyota) and are trying to still get onto the grid !
That's the main things off the top of my head
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14-01-2017, 12:27 AM
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14-01-2017, 12:27 AM #8Apparently the FIA are going to be investigating team US F1 and their readiness for the season. My guess is there's going to be something drastic happening there, e.g. they lose their slot for this season, might be a way in for Stefan GP ?
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14-01-2017, 06:05 AM
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
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FirebirdPhil
14-01-2017, 06:05 AM #92 weeks to go and all this "stuff" going on.................:ohmy:
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
15-01-2017, 02:05 AM
2tongues 2 weeks to go and all this "stuff" going on.................:ohmy:
I think that's what Ferrari are a little pi$$ed about, that this was Max Mosley's legacy to force out the manufacturers and try and let in all these teams in who haven't got a solid plan in place to actually make it happen.
I understand where they're coming from, but still think they should just shut up and do their talking on track.
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2tongues 2 weeks to go and all this "stuff" going on.................:ohmy:
I think that's what Ferrari are a little pi$$ed about, that this was Max Mosley's legacy to force out the manufacturers and try and let in all these teams in who haven't got a solid plan in place to actually make it happen.
I understand where they're coming from, but still think they should just shut up and do their talking on track.
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