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P.Lindblom
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20-01-2017, 07:28 AM
#11
Lexusboy Do Virgin offer extra wireless doggles for you to purchase

:confused1:

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P.Lindblom
20-01-2017, 07:28 AM #11

Lexusboy Do Virgin offer extra wireless doggles for you to purchase

:confused1:

[Image: doggles.jpg]

parthiban
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20-01-2017, 07:32 AM
#12
steviewevie No, you should be able to do just as you suggest, if you've got a Virgin cable modem, plug it into your router, then put Ethernet cables from there to your other PCs if you want.

Yeah that's how I currently have it with my wireless router, but is that the same with a switch?

Like this for example........

[Image: N100-1400-main.jpg]

So modem plugged into port 1, wireless router into 2, PC into 3, etc - would they all communicate just like that?


And lol @ Patrik :lol:

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parthiban
20-01-2017, 07:32 AM #12

steviewevie No, you should be able to do just as you suggest, if you've got a Virgin cable modem, plug it into your router, then put Ethernet cables from there to your other PCs if you want.

Yeah that's how I currently have it with my wireless router, but is that the same with a switch?

Like this for example........

[Image: N100-1400-main.jpg]

So modem plugged into port 1, wireless router into 2, PC into 3, etc - would they all communicate just like that?


And lol @ Patrik :lol:


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

steviewevie
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20-01-2017, 08:25 AM
#13
Your router basically has a small switch built into it. Yes, if you want a better switch with more features/better management, or just more ports, then you should be able to plug the router together with the switch.

The only thing I'm not completely sure about is the routing, i.e. how it's all setup, whether you could plug the cable modem into the switch or have to leave it in the router ?

Love the idea of the "doggles" though :lol:

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steviewevie
20-01-2017, 08:25 AM #13

Your router basically has a small switch built into it. Yes, if you want a better switch with more features/better management, or just more ports, then you should be able to plug the router together with the switch.

The only thing I'm not completely sure about is the routing, i.e. how it's all setup, whether you could plug the cable modem into the switch or have to leave it in the router ?

Love the idea of the "doggles" though :lol:


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Saraj
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20-01-2017, 08:34 AM
#14
the switcher should have a specific port to connect the router to, as sort of an input?, then the rest would be outputs? i assume,

i know most routers come with like 5 ports already built in, maybe get a decent router with loads of built in ports? not sure if you can buy somehting like that.

[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]
Saraj
20-01-2017, 08:34 AM #14

the switcher should have a specific port to connect the router to, as sort of an input?, then the rest would be outputs? i assume,

i know most routers come with like 5 ports already built in, maybe get a decent router with loads of built in ports? not sure if you can buy somehting like that.


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

parthiban
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4,925
20-01-2017, 09:25 AM
#15
Switches don't normally have an "in" port, you can use any socket for in or out - but I'm confused by the terminology. Are a router and a switch essentially the same thing?

I'm tending to find mostly the word router used with wireless products, but then I've also come across a few wired routers so maybe a router is required if you want to share an internet connection too?

If that is the case then the modem and wireless router would have to stay together, and a port from the wireless router should then go to the switch which would then distribute around the house.

Maybe this is a little more complicated than I thought, better speak to a network engineer before I lay cables all over the place and discover they don't work!

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
20-01-2017, 09:25 AM #15

Switches don't normally have an "in" port, you can use any socket for in or out - but I'm confused by the terminology. Are a router and a switch essentially the same thing?

I'm tending to find mostly the word router used with wireless products, but then I've also come across a few wired routers so maybe a router is required if you want to share an internet connection too?

If that is the case then the modem and wireless router would have to stay together, and a port from the wireless router should then go to the switch which would then distribute around the house.

Maybe this is a little more complicated than I thought, better speak to a network engineer before I lay cables all over the place and discover they don't work!


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Saraj
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20-01-2017, 09:38 AM
#16
parthiban Switches don't normally have an "in" port, you can use any socket for in or out - but I'm confused by the terminology. Are a router and a switch essentially the same thing?

I'm tending to find mostly the word router used with wireless products, but then I've also come across a few wired routers so maybe a router is required if you want to share an internet connection too?

If that is the case then the modem and wireless router would have to stay together, and a port from the wireless router should then go to the switch which would then distribute around the house.

Maybe this is a little more complicated than I thought, better speak to a network engineer before I lay cables all over the place and discover they don't work!

i think you are right.

Modem to Router via Ehternet cable, then router ethernet cable to Switch, then Switch ports to the rest of the house,

some routers come with ports which basically is what a switch does (?) like mine Be Broadband has 4 ethernet ports built in. but you probally need more?

All are interconnectable, and can connect to each other, no need for input or outputs like other stuff, audio, video

[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]
Saraj
20-01-2017, 09:38 AM #16

parthiban Switches don't normally have an "in" port, you can use any socket for in or out - but I'm confused by the terminology. Are a router and a switch essentially the same thing?

I'm tending to find mostly the word router used with wireless products, but then I've also come across a few wired routers so maybe a router is required if you want to share an internet connection too?

If that is the case then the modem and wireless router would have to stay together, and a port from the wireless router should then go to the switch which would then distribute around the house.

Maybe this is a little more complicated than I thought, better speak to a network engineer before I lay cables all over the place and discover they don't work!

i think you are right.

Modem to Router via Ehternet cable, then router ethernet cable to Switch, then Switch ports to the rest of the house,

some routers come with ports which basically is what a switch does (?) like mine Be Broadband has 4 ethernet ports built in. but you probally need more?

All are interconnectable, and can connect to each other, no need for input or outputs like other stuff, audio, video


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

steviewevie
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7,993
20-01-2017, 10:15 AM
#17
The terminology is confusing, I agree, and that's a lot to do with the fact that these products aren't really named correctly !

A switch is just something that switches the traffic between its ports. Pretty simple (although more expensive ones can do a bit more).

A router, however, usually has a bit more network intelligence in the way that it decides to send stuff, e.g. it has different network types involved which it may decide to "route" the traffic over. I'm simplifying here, the lines can be blurred quite often.

The "wireless router" that you get free from your ISP, or see in Currys etc, is actually a router with a built-in switch. So the bit with the four (or thereabouts) Ethernet ports is actually a switch, and the routing functionality comes in with talking over the wireless and/or the Internet port.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
20-01-2017, 10:15 AM #17

The terminology is confusing, I agree, and that's a lot to do with the fact that these products aren't really named correctly !

A switch is just something that switches the traffic between its ports. Pretty simple (although more expensive ones can do a bit more).

A router, however, usually has a bit more network intelligence in the way that it decides to send stuff, e.g. it has different network types involved which it may decide to "route" the traffic over. I'm simplifying here, the lines can be blurred quite often.

The "wireless router" that you get free from your ISP, or see in Currys etc, is actually a router with a built-in switch. So the bit with the four (or thereabouts) Ethernet ports is actually a switch, and the routing functionality comes in with talking over the wireless and/or the Internet port.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Saraj
Posting Freak
2,791
20-01-2017, 10:18 AM
#18
steviewevie The terminology is confusing, I agree, and that's a lot to do with the fact that these products aren't really named correctly !

A switch is just something that switches the traffic between its ports. Pretty simple (although more expensive ones can do a bit more).

A router, however, usually has a bit more network intelligence in the way that it decides to send stuff, e.g. it has different network types involved which it may decide to "route" the traffic over. I'm simplifying here, the lines can be blurred quite often.

The "wireless router" that you get free from your ISP, or see in Currys etc, is actually a router with a built-in switch. So the bit with the four (or thereabouts) Ethernet ports is actually a switch, and the routing functionality comes in with talking over the wireless and/or the Internet port.

i would have never been able to put it like that :thumbup1:

[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]
Saraj
20-01-2017, 10:18 AM #18

steviewevie The terminology is confusing, I agree, and that's a lot to do with the fact that these products aren't really named correctly !

A switch is just something that switches the traffic between its ports. Pretty simple (although more expensive ones can do a bit more).

A router, however, usually has a bit more network intelligence in the way that it decides to send stuff, e.g. it has different network types involved which it may decide to "route" the traffic over. I'm simplifying here, the lines can be blurred quite often.

The "wireless router" that you get free from your ISP, or see in Currys etc, is actually a router with a built-in switch. So the bit with the four (or thereabouts) Ethernet ports is actually a switch, and the routing functionality comes in with talking over the wireless and/or the Internet port.

i would have never been able to put it like that :thumbup1:


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

parthiban
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4,925
20-01-2017, 01:31 PM
#19
Cheers for that, yep my netgear router has a 4 port switch in it, that's what I currently have my PC, powerline adaptor and voip phone hooked up to. So clearly it's almost full, which is why I was thinking along the lines of a full on 8/16 port network switch.

But it does seem I may need to route it through some form of router, for which my wireless router is doing a fine job so may keep things as they are, but run one cable out into the cupboard or loft while redecorating that will allow for further expansion at a later date.

Thanks everyone for the replies Smile

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
20-01-2017, 01:31 PM #19

Cheers for that, yep my netgear router has a 4 port switch in it, that's what I currently have my PC, powerline adaptor and voip phone hooked up to. So clearly it's almost full, which is why I was thinking along the lines of a full on 8/16 port network switch.

But it does seem I may need to route it through some form of router, for which my wireless router is doing a fine job so may keep things as they are, but run one cable out into the cupboard or loft while redecorating that will allow for further expansion at a later date.

Thanks everyone for the replies Smile


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

steviewevie
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21-01-2017, 02:19 AM
#20
You could easily hang a cheap switch off your router to help expand it. Even though you might have a lot of traffic going down that one link between switch and wireless router, bear in mind that link will have a lot more bandwidth (e.g. 100Mbit or even 1Gbit) then your broadband link (e.g. 10Mbit or 20Mbit), so it's not likely to be a problem !

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
21-01-2017, 02:19 AM #20

You could easily hang a cheap switch off your router to help expand it. Even though you might have a lot of traffic going down that one link between switch and wireless router, bear in mind that link will have a lot more bandwidth (e.g. 100Mbit or even 1Gbit) then your broadband link (e.g. 10Mbit or 20Mbit), so it's not likely to be a problem !


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

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