Lowering but retaining comfort
Lowering but retaining comfort
I had put the car on 19's to have very little tyre for absorption so need to get my suspension choice right, currently on the stock suspension the car still feels fantastic so I don't really want to compromise that but achieve a lower setup.
My options are:
Eibach Prokit from the UK £230 lowers 30mm all round
Eibach Prokit from the US £352 lowers 35mm front and 25mm rear
BC Racing - £700 Seems very popular but is that because they are 1 of the only affordable options for some cars such as the IS250?
Meister R ZetaCRD (Replaces the Europa) - £650 these seems to be the wise choice, I have heard mainly good things about Meisters over forums I have been part of. Has anyone got a set fitted to a Lexus and can give feedback on comfort?
I have run Eibachs on my previous 3-4 cars as have always been pleased with the difference in comfort from stock as they always felt comparable, I'm just not sure the ride height would be quite low enough on the IS, I'm not looking for silly low as I want the car to be practical and useable, I also don't like the look when the arches come over the wheels, but the coilovers would give me endless options to get the ride height "just right" have a feeling I may regret the Eibachs
Basically looking for any feedback someone can give me to get the car set nicely without loosing that beautiful ride comfort the Lexus has and what attracted me to it in the first place! Don't want to turn this into a bouncy crashy Civic them days are behind me for day to day use!
The time has come to lower my IS250 F-Sport
I had put the car on 19's to have very little tyre for absorption so need to get my suspension choice right, currently on the stock suspension the car still feels fantastic so I don't really want to compromise that but achieve a lower setup.
My options are:
Eibach Prokit from the UK £230 lowers 30mm all round
Eibach Prokit from the US £352 lowers 35mm front and 25mm rear
BC Racing - £700 Seems very popular but is that because they are 1 of the only affordable options for some cars such as the IS250?
Meister R ZetaCRD (Replaces the Europa) - £650 these seems to be the wise choice, I have heard mainly good things about Meisters over forums I have been part of. Has anyone got a set fitted to a Lexus and can give feedback on comfort?
I have run Eibachs on my previous 3-4 cars as have always been pleased with the difference in comfort from stock as they always felt comparable, I'm just not sure the ride height would be quite low enough on the IS, I'm not looking for silly low as I want the car to be practical and useable, I also don't like the look when the arches come over the wheels, but the coilovers would give me endless options to get the ride height "just right" have a feeling I may regret the Eibachs
Basically looking for any feedback someone can give me to get the car set nicely without loosing that beautiful ride comfort the Lexus has and what attracted me to it in the first place! Don't want to turn this into a bouncy crashy Civic them days are behind me for day to day use!
el_bandido
21-03-2023, 07:18 AM #2I had a set of Meister R Europas on my IS200 & the IS300; they would be first choice to stick on my IS250 as well (actually I was going to go with a set of GT-1's but I'll be buying a set of those for the weekend car instead). The Europas were far more comfortable than the stock sport suspension, even on a fairly hard setting. I would not be surprised if the results were the same on an IS250. I'd consider putting a stiffer rear roll bar on the IS250 as well if I were you, it's something I'm considering doing to mine to dial out a bit of understeer and remove some of the boat handling.
Also, I'd suggest putting a lighter set of wheels on if you want to improve comfort (and everything else).
el_bandido
21-03-2023, 07:20 AM #3One further thing - do yourself a favour and take the car down to WIM for a proper 4 wheel alignment when you've bedded the coilovers in, it made a massive difference and the car felt like it was on rails.
Also, I'd suggest putting a lighter set of wheels on if you want to improve comfort (and everything else).
el_bandido I had a set of Meister R Europas on my IS200 & the IS300; they would be first choice to stick on my IS250 as well (actually I was going to go with a set of GT-1's but I'll be buying a set of those for the weekend car instead). The Europas were far more comfortable than the stock sport suspension, even on a fairly hard setting. I would not be surprised if the results were the same on an IS250. I'd consider putting a stiffer rear roll bar on the IS250 as well if I were you, it's something I'm considering doing to mine to dial out a bit of understeer and remove some of the boat handling.
Great feedback much as I expected from the Meisters to be honest! I am currently working out if I can justify a supercharger install also, currently I don't drive my car hard enough for the handling to really bother me, but if I went down the route of a bit extra power then I would also look an improving the handling. Good tip thank you.
el_bandido I had a set of Meister R Europas on my IS200 & the IS300; they would be first choice to stick on my IS250 as well (actually I was going to go with a set of GT-1's but I'll be buying a set of those for the weekend car instead). The Europas were far more comfortable than the stock sport suspension, even on a fairly hard setting. I would not be surprised if the results were the same on an IS250. I'd consider putting a stiffer rear roll bar on the IS250 as well if I were you, it's something I'm considering doing to mine to dial out a bit of understeer and remove some of the boat handling.
Great feedback much as I expected from the Meisters to be honest! I am currently working out if I can justify a supercharger install also, currently I don't drive my car hard enough for the handling to really bother me, but if I went down the route of a bit extra power then I would also look an improving the handling. Good tip thank you.
el_bandido One further thing - do yourself a favour and take the car down to WIM for a proper 4 wheel alignment when you've bedded the coilovers in, it made a massive difference and the car felt like it was on rails.
Also, I'd suggest putting a lighter set of wheels on if you want to improve comfort (and everything else).
Yeah I wouldn't dream of lowering a car and not adjusting the alignment, we are currently investing £45,000 at work in a new alignment system and driver assistance systems calibration tool so shouldn't have any issues getting the alignment right. Top advice though no one should go sticking coilovers on their car and not aligning the thing afterwards!
As for the wheels they are very much purchased and not going anywhere soon the JR18's are lighter than my stock F-Sport wheels anyway I think, but obviously have less rubber, it hasn't made any serious impact on comfort though, just want to make sure installing coilovers has similar results without destroying comfort which I think the Meisters will do
el_bandido One further thing - do yourself a favour and take the car down to WIM for a proper 4 wheel alignment when you've bedded the coilovers in, it made a massive difference and the car felt like it was on rails.
Also, I'd suggest putting a lighter set of wheels on if you want to improve comfort (and everything else).
Yeah I wouldn't dream of lowering a car and not adjusting the alignment, we are currently investing £45,000 at work in a new alignment system and driver assistance systems calibration tool so shouldn't have any issues getting the alignment right. Top advice though no one should go sticking coilovers on their car and not aligning the thing afterwards!
As for the wheels they are very much purchased and not going anywhere soon the JR18's are lighter than my stock F-Sport wheels anyway I think, but obviously have less rubber, it hasn't made any serious impact on comfort though, just want to make sure installing coilovers has similar results without destroying comfort which I think the Meisters will do
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Sparkystav
21-03-2023, 09:21 AM #6Another vote for the Meisters. Never heard a bad thing.
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Yeah notice they were a sponsor. Will use this discount code rather than the civic forum one then he he. The main thing I like about the Meisters is the support and Jerricks knowledge of his products are second to none that I have witnesses from any other coilover manufacturer
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Sparkystav
21-03-2023, 12:42 PM #8Glad to hear it!
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Total waste of money in my opinion, it would be cheaper to import an is350.
el_bandido
21-03-2023, 06:02 PM #9I wouldn't bother supercharging the is250 unless you are prepared to buy an after market ecu and spend lots of money for little gain. I'd drop in the 3 litre v6 from the gs300 and supercharge that instead if I'd gone stand alone though. The 250 is already around 12:1 compression and the bolt on centrifugal supercharger kits don't generate much boost until high rpm and the stock fuelling doesn't seem to cope with more than about 5psi from what I can tell.
Total waste of money in my opinion, it would be cheaper to import an is350.
el_bandido I wouldn't bother supercharging the is250 unless you are prepared to buy an after market ecu and spend lots of money for little gain. I'd drop in the 3 litre v6 from the gs300 and supercharge that instead if I'd gone stand alone though. The 250 is already around 12:1 compression and the bolt on centrifugal supercharger kits don't generate much boost until high rpm and the stock fuelling doesn't seem to cope with more than about 5psi from what I can tell.
Total waste of money in my opinion, it would be cheaper to import an is350.
I believe they may has cracked the ISF ECU out in the states so the 250 must either has been cracked or be getting very close. Either way though you are probably right, I would necessarily be superchargering a 250 because it makes financial sense that never what modifying cars has been about for me, its more just the urge to tinker.
I would say the more I read into it though I would agree I cant justify the supercharger, will stick to my aesthetic mods and some handling mods until I have completely run out, before thinking about the supercharger again
el_bandido I wouldn't bother supercharging the is250 unless you are prepared to buy an after market ecu and spend lots of money for little gain. I'd drop in the 3 litre v6 from the gs300 and supercharge that instead if I'd gone stand alone though. The 250 is already around 12:1 compression and the bolt on centrifugal supercharger kits don't generate much boost until high rpm and the stock fuelling doesn't seem to cope with more than about 5psi from what I can tell.
Total waste of money in my opinion, it would be cheaper to import an is350.
I believe they may has cracked the ISF ECU out in the states so the 250 must either has been cracked or be getting very close. Either way though you are probably right, I would necessarily be superchargering a 250 because it makes financial sense that never what modifying cars has been about for me, its more just the urge to tinker.
I would say the more I read into it though I would agree I cant justify the supercharger, will stick to my aesthetic mods and some handling mods until I have completely run out, before thinking about the supercharger again
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