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parthiban
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4,925
24-12-2017, 05:34 AM
#1
Our Mini went off for a service and MOT a couple of weeks ago (to a main dealer), all went fine, but then when the car was dropped back I went out to put it in the garage and headlights didn't work. Rang them straight away and they said they were working fine (it passed MOT after all) and the driver wouldn't have brought the car back without working headlights.

Anyway, I had a look over it and couldn't spot anything obvious and the actual bulbs looked fine, so called them back a few days later and told them they'd have to pick it up again and sort it.

That day was today, and just had a call from them saying they've found the problem, both bulbs had blown (which I'm still not 100% sure of) due to excessive resistance in the connectors. They've now cleaned up the connectors, replaced the bulbs, and all is working fine.

Best part is there's a bill to pay of £110! Confusedhock:

I am obviously reluctant to pay any bill let alone one that large for this, so am now awaiting a call from the manager to discuss this further. My argument is that the car was absolutely fine, then it spends a day with them and then the lights don't work.

Worst part is there's a feeling of scam about the whole thing - the car has very low mileage so is only serviced once every two years and even then no parts need replacing, plus it's on a prepaid service plan so they don't get any money out of us anyway..........or am I just reading too far into...........

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
24-12-2017, 05:34 AM #1

Our Mini went off for a service and MOT a couple of weeks ago (to a main dealer), all went fine, but then when the car was dropped back I went out to put it in the garage and headlights didn't work. Rang them straight away and they said they were working fine (it passed MOT after all) and the driver wouldn't have brought the car back without working headlights.

Anyway, I had a look over it and couldn't spot anything obvious and the actual bulbs looked fine, so called them back a few days later and told them they'd have to pick it up again and sort it.

That day was today, and just had a call from them saying they've found the problem, both bulbs had blown (which I'm still not 100% sure of) due to excessive resistance in the connectors. They've now cleaned up the connectors, replaced the bulbs, and all is working fine.

Best part is there's a bill to pay of £110! Confusedhock:

I am obviously reluctant to pay any bill let alone one that large for this, so am now awaiting a call from the manager to discuss this further. My argument is that the car was absolutely fine, then it spends a day with them and then the lights don't work.

Worst part is there's a feeling of scam about the whole thing - the car has very low mileage so is only serviced once every two years and even then no parts need replacing, plus it's on a prepaid service plan so they don't get any money out of us anyway..........or am I just reading too far into...........


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Bandit
Posting Freak
6,464
24-12-2017, 05:36 AM
#2
If it passed its MOT mate with them working, i'd say it was a bit odd that they had BOTH packed up in the time it took to get it back to you?? does sound a bit fishy??

Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


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Bandit
24-12-2017, 05:36 AM #2

If it passed its MOT mate with them working, i'd say it was a bit odd that they had BOTH packed up in the time it took to get it back to you?? does sound a bit fishy??


Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
24-12-2017, 05:42 AM
#3
Bandit If it passed its MOT mate with them working, i'd say it was a bit odd that they had BOTH packed up in the time it took to get it back to you?? does sound a bit fishy??

Exactly, they claim it was working all day, and when the driver dropped it off. So between the 5 minutes of him giving me the keys back, and then me putting my shoes on to put the car in the garage, there was an overload of resistance and both headlight bulbs blew............(and let's ignore the fact that I took both bulbs out, both looked fine with filaments intact)

Glad I'm not the only one thinking it's a little suspicious, looking forward to the call back from the manager :whistling:

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
24-12-2017, 05:42 AM #3

Bandit If it passed its MOT mate with them working, i'd say it was a bit odd that they had BOTH packed up in the time it took to get it back to you?? does sound a bit fishy??

Exactly, they claim it was working all day, and when the driver dropped it off. So between the 5 minutes of him giving me the keys back, and then me putting my shoes on to put the car in the garage, there was an overload of resistance and both headlight bulbs blew............(and let's ignore the fact that I took both bulbs out, both looked fine with filaments intact)

Glad I'm not the only one thinking it's a little suspicious, looking forward to the call back from the manager :whistling:


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Bandit
Posting Freak
6,464
24-12-2017, 05:51 AM
#4
parthiban Exactly, they claim it was working all day, and when the driver dropped it off. So between the 5 minutes of him giving me the keys back, and then me putting my shoes on to put the car in the garage, there was an overload of resistance and both headlight bulbs blew............(and let's ignore the fact that I took both bulbs out, both looked fine with filaments intact)

Glad I'm not the only one thinking it's a little suspicious, looking forward to the call back from the manager :whistling:

So they had them on all day then? tell them they have worn them out :blink: Has it got the factory hid kit fitted?

I used to build the mini hid and standard light units so know them very very well, i was the quality inspector and build leader :thumbup1:

Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!
Bandit
24-12-2017, 05:51 AM #4

parthiban Exactly, they claim it was working all day, and when the driver dropped it off. So between the 5 minutes of him giving me the keys back, and then me putting my shoes on to put the car in the garage, there was an overload of resistance and both headlight bulbs blew............(and let's ignore the fact that I took both bulbs out, both looked fine with filaments intact)

Glad I'm not the only one thinking it's a little suspicious, looking forward to the call back from the manager :whistling:

So they had them on all day then? tell them they have worn them out :blink: Has it got the factory hid kit fitted?

I used to build the mini hid and standard light units so know them very very well, i was the quality inspector and build leader :thumbup1:


Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!

Cous3
Member
211
24-12-2017, 05:58 AM
#5
Bl**dy liberty if you ask me!!.........Hope you get it sorted in your favour.

Keith
Cous3
24-12-2017, 05:58 AM #5

Bl**dy liberty if you ask me!!.........Hope you get it sorted in your favour.

Keith

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
24-12-2017, 06:02 AM
#6
Sounds suspicious.

Trusting lot us outlaws!!

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
24-12-2017, 06:02 AM #6

Sounds suspicious.

Trusting lot us outlaws!!


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
24-12-2017, 07:20 AM
#7
Bandit So they had them on all day then? tell them they have worn them out :blink: Has it got the factory hid kit fitted?

I used to build the mini hid and standard light units so know them very very well, i was the quality inspector and build leader :thumbup1:
Lol no, well I hope not! It's not HID, standard halogens - is this phenomenon something you've come across before?


Ok just been on the phone with the service manager, and then the actual centre manager and they're not budging unfortunately, I've told them that if this is their level of customer service I won't be coming back and they seem happy with that so looks like there isn't much of an option.

Been on the phone with Mini UK just now and they're saying predictably that there isn't much they can do about labour charges, that's at the dealerships discretion............


If anyone's interested, I wouldn't recommend using Scotthall Stirling Corner BMW/Mini :whistling:

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
24-12-2017, 07:20 AM #7

Bandit So they had them on all day then? tell them they have worn them out :blink: Has it got the factory hid kit fitted?

I used to build the mini hid and standard light units so know them very very well, i was the quality inspector and build leader :thumbup1:
Lol no, well I hope not! It's not HID, standard halogens - is this phenomenon something you've come across before?


Ok just been on the phone with the service manager, and then the actual centre manager and they're not budging unfortunately, I've told them that if this is their level of customer service I won't be coming back and they seem happy with that so looks like there isn't much of an option.

Been on the phone with Mini UK just now and they're saying predictably that there isn't much they can do about labour charges, that's at the dealerships discretion............


If anyone's interested, I wouldn't recommend using Scotthall Stirling Corner BMW/Mini :whistling:


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Bandit
Posting Freak
6,464
24-12-2017, 09:00 AM
#8
Did they ask you if you wanted the work carried out? and the bulbs replaced?

If it was me mate i'd tell them to put it back to how it was, and buy your own bulbs?

Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!
Bandit
24-12-2017, 09:00 AM #8

Did they ask you if you wanted the work carried out? and the bulbs replaced?

If it was me mate i'd tell them to put it back to how it was, and buy your own bulbs?


Lexus IS200 Sport Navigator (Now being stripped again) :blink:


Now Don't Forget The REP!!!

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
24-12-2017, 09:04 AM
#9
Bandit Did they ask you if you wanted the work carried out? and the bulbs replaced?

If it was me mate i'd tell them to put it back to how it was, and buy your own bulbs?

This!

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Sparkystav
24-12-2017, 09:04 AM #9

Bandit Did they ask you if you wanted the work carried out? and the bulbs replaced?

If it was me mate i'd tell them to put it back to how it was, and buy your own bulbs?

This!


OutlawJapClub Admin Team

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
24-12-2017, 09:37 AM
#10
Bandit Did they ask you if you wanted the work carried out? and the bulbs replaced?

If it was me mate i'd tell them to put it back to how it was, and buy your own bulbs?

Nah they didn't, nor did they tell me that there was a £79.99 inspection fee when I booked the car in.

Technically I could have stood my ground, but I've already spent too many hours on the phone for the sake of £100 so just paid it and asked for the car back.

Planning to write in an official complaint to the dealer and Mini UK just so there's a record of it, but otherwise just won't be using Scotthall again - to me a goodwill gesture of knocking the bill down to £50 or so would have been enough that I'd have been satisfied, they decided they weren't going to back down so they'll lose my custom instead.

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
24-12-2017, 09:37 AM #10

Bandit Did they ask you if you wanted the work carried out? and the bulbs replaced?

If it was me mate i'd tell them to put it back to how it was, and buy your own bulbs?

Nah they didn't, nor did they tell me that there was a £79.99 inspection fee when I booked the car in.

Technically I could have stood my ground, but I've already spent too many hours on the phone for the sake of £100 so just paid it and asked for the car back.

Planning to write in an official complaint to the dealer and Mini UK just so there's a record of it, but otherwise just won't be using Scotthall again - to me a goodwill gesture of knocking the bill down to £50 or so would have been enough that I'd have been satisfied, they decided they weren't going to back down so they'll lose my custom instead.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

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