IS220 Brake dust
IS220 Brake dust
Firstly I'm pleased to pop the cherry of the Brakes & Suspension section with the first post. Secondly my question. I've had my Lexus for about 8 months now & have notice that the front wheels are always heavily covered in brake dust. I do take care of the car, washing once a week & the alloys have protected with a wheel sealant. I'm starting to get annoyed as I spent about £400 getting the alloys refurbished (nice powder coat job in smoked chrome to complement the grey) but all you ever see is dull break dust. Can anyone give me advice on which pads I could get that are low dust please so I can get them changed.:cursing:
1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
I have always used blueprint, very low brake dust and good brake performance
1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
sprinter2012
27-08-2018, 12:53 PM #3I'm sure I saw an american company called Hawk Performance of something like that, who made semi ceramic low brake dust pads for the IS250/IS220 etc.
Don't know how much they cost though...
sprinter2012
27-08-2018, 12:55 PM #4http://www.hawkperformance.com/performance/ceramic.php
Don't know how much they cost though...
sprinter2012 I'm sure I saw an american company called Hawk Performance of something like that, who made semi ceramic low brake dust pads for the IS250/IS220 etc.
I have ceramic all round on the Trans AM, the thing to watch is they DO NOT meet EU safety guidelines for friction material.
American pads are designed to wear out quickly in relation to the disk, they can get 5 sets of pads out of one set of rotors because of the break compounds, EU compounds are more abrasive to the rotor.
There are loads of ceramic pads manufacturers out here - not just that one company.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
27-08-2018, 02:48 PM #5sprinter2012 I'm sure I saw an american company called Hawk Performance of something like that, who made semi ceramic low brake dust pads for the IS250/IS220 etc.
I have ceramic all round on the Trans AM, the thing to watch is they DO NOT meet EU safety guidelines for friction material.
American pads are designed to wear out quickly in relation to the disk, they can get 5 sets of pads out of one set of rotors because of the break compounds, EU compounds are more abrasive to the rotor.
There are loads of ceramic pads manufacturers out here - not just that one company.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
27-08-2018, 02:49 PM #6Oh yea no noise, no dust and warped disks are a thing of the past with them.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
However, I do have a brand new set of these front pads for the 250/350 together with a pair of new discs. PM me if you're interested.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Lexus produced sets of low dust ceramic based pads for the IS250&350 following complaints from owners in the USA. Unfortunately, despite me providing the part numbers, my local dealership said they were not available in the UK.
However, I do have a brand new set of these front pads for the 250/350 together with a pair of new discs. PM me if you're interested.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango Lexus produced sets of low dust ceramic based pads for the IS250&350 following complaints from owners in the USA. Unfortunately, despite me providing the part numbers, my local dealership said they were not available in the UK.
However, I do have a brand new set of these front pads for the 250/350 together with a pair of new discs. PM me if you're interested.
I would assume thats because of the regulations - they can't sell you something that won't meet current EU regs.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
28-08-2018, 08:19 AM #8Tango Lexus produced sets of low dust ceramic based pads for the IS250&350 following complaints from owners in the USA. Unfortunately, despite me providing the part numbers, my local dealership said they were not available in the UK.
However, I do have a brand new set of these front pads for the 250/350 together with a pair of new discs. PM me if you're interested.
I would assume thats because of the regulations - they can't sell you something that won't meet current EU regs.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
The test which involves taking each homologated vehicle used on the public roads within Europe and comparing the front and rear brake performance with the original parts to those of aftermarket offerings has closed the door to cheap and nasty imported brake pads throughout Europe (which was the objective).
The test includes cold and hot brake friction analysis and if a part has been approved to R90, it can be safely assumed that the product is equal to or better than original equipment product.
The brake pads are then marked with an R90 code number and a country code in a circle such as E1 for Germany or E11 for UK which signifies where the testing has been done.
I would suggest that Lexus do not think that the cost of testing the ceramic based pads is justified for the relatively low number of complaints they have received from the EU countries on excessive dusting.
However, your statement that ceramic based friction material doesn't meet EU safety guidelines for friction material is not true, as there is a general move for auto manufacturers to equip latest models with ceramic type pads. The problem is that for manufacturers of non OEM pads the cost of testing for each and every model may not be justified, so for those sold in relatively small numbers (like Lexus) non-OEM pads with the 'E' mark are rare.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
European legislation came into effect September 1999 titled ECE R90 that stipulates that all brake pads sold for use on vehicles manufactured after this date must be tested and comply to R90 standards.
The test which involves taking each homologated vehicle used on the public roads within Europe and comparing the front and rear brake performance with the original parts to those of aftermarket offerings has closed the door to cheap and nasty imported brake pads throughout Europe (which was the objective).
The test includes cold and hot brake friction analysis and if a part has been approved to R90, it can be safely assumed that the product is equal to or better than original equipment product.
The brake pads are then marked with an R90 code number and a country code in a circle such as E1 for Germany or E11 for UK which signifies where the testing has been done.
I would suggest that Lexus do not think that the cost of testing the ceramic based pads is justified for the relatively low number of complaints they have received from the EU countries on excessive dusting.
However, your statement that ceramic based friction material doesn't meet EU safety guidelines for friction material is not true, as there is a general move for auto manufacturers to equip latest models with ceramic type pads. The problem is that for manufacturers of non OEM pads the cost of testing for each and every model may not be justified, so for those sold in relatively small numbers (like Lexus) non-OEM pads with the 'E' mark are rare.
IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Nowhere did I say ceramic based pads don't meet EU safety guidelines as clearly some makes do as ceramics are sold in the EU for a few cars.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
29-08-2018, 01:45 PM #10What I sais was true, American ceramic pads do not meet EU guidelines.
Nowhere did I say ceramic based pads don't meet EU safety guidelines as clearly some makes do as ceramics are sold in the EU for a few cars.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
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