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30-03-2017, 12:13 AM
Gord So the 17inch wheel and 18inch wheels not almost identical then.
And then again it would also depend on what sort of off set you running with the bigger 18inch wheels to.
Offset wouldn't affect the ride height though. Am I misunderstanding you ? I thought we were just talking about ride height.
The bigger wheels actually have a very slightly bigger overall diameter. So they're going to put the centre of the wheels (and the chassis) 6mm higher off the ground. And the the top of the wheel will be 6mm closer to the top of the arch. I still doubt the size of the wheels is a factor in the geometry *assuming* people are running the "correct" sized wheels/tyres combo (i.e. very close overall diameter to OEM).
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Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
30-03-2017, 12:13 AM #21Gord So the 17inch wheel and 18inch wheels not almost identical then.
And then again it would also depend on what sort of off set you running with the bigger 18inch wheels to.
Offset wouldn't affect the ride height though. Am I misunderstanding you ? I thought we were just talking about ride height.
The bigger wheels actually have a very slightly bigger overall diameter. So they're going to put the centre of the wheels (and the chassis) 6mm higher off the ground. And the the top of the wheel will be 6mm closer to the top of the arch. I still doubt the size of the wheels is a factor in the geometry *assuming* people are running the "correct" sized wheels/tyres combo (i.e. very close overall diameter to OEM).
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
30-03-2017, 01:27 AM
Gord Different shock as in what ? i thought we was just changing springs on OEM shocks here ?
I was asking if you know that there maybe two different types of OEM shocks with different mounting points ? as you was trying to say Wozza's shocks may have different mounting points, Quote ''then the mounting points for the springs on your shocks are probably the reason for the difference'' then i was thinking you might of been saying the se shocks are different to the sport shocks as Wozza has se.
Sorry, what I was going back to where I said it should be fine geo-wise if you have TTE springs. Wozza replied to say he had TTE springs (and his wasn't fine), but I said I thought that was because he had different shocks (the Tokico adjustable ones that he got from Dave, and they might have some sort of different mounting points.
If Wozza's was outside of the adjustable range on his original shocks and TTE springs then I can't explain that, especially if the problem was at the front(given he has his sub in the boot at the back).
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
30-03-2017, 01:27 AM #22Gord Different shock as in what ? i thought we was just changing springs on OEM shocks here ?
I was asking if you know that there maybe two different types of OEM shocks with different mounting points ? as you was trying to say Wozza's shocks may have different mounting points, Quote ''then the mounting points for the springs on your shocks are probably the reason for the difference'' then i was thinking you might of been saying the se shocks are different to the sport shocks as Wozza has se.
Sorry, what I was going back to where I said it should be fine geo-wise if you have TTE springs. Wozza replied to say he had TTE springs (and his wasn't fine), but I said I thought that was because he had different shocks (the Tokico adjustable ones that he got from Dave, and they might have some sort of different mounting points.
If Wozza's was outside of the adjustable range on his original shocks and TTE springs then I can't explain that, especially if the problem was at the front(given he has his sub in the boot at the back).
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
30-03-2017, 02:49 AM
DJ Wozza You will probably be ok mate, but when you go low on the IS200/IS300 chassis, sometimes there isn't enough adjustment left to correctly bring the
chassis GEO back into the correct range.
B15RUP & myself have had issues, as I believe has Aaronabbott.
More details here....LINKY
Mine is maxed out aswell (on tte springs/stock springs), but as mine is not driven all that much i can bear with the slight additional wear, will probably get a set before i go next year for my next check up!
Edited 11-05-2010, 12:29 PM by SHAHZ.
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DJ Wozza You will probably be ok mate, but when you go low on the IS200/IS300 chassis, sometimes there isn't enough adjustment left to correctly bring the
chassis GEO back into the correct range.
B15RUP & myself have had issues, as I believe has Aaronabbott.
More details here....LINKY
Mine is maxed out aswell (on tte springs/stock springs), but as mine is not driven all that much i can bear with the slight additional wear, will probably get a set before i go next year for my next check up!
Tinted Glass-Sports Grill-Debadged-TTE Spoiler-TTE Lowering Springs-PLUK Kazama Exhaust-18" Aero Alloys-K&N Air Filter-Denso Iridium Power Spark Plugs-Quad Tail Light Conversion-6000K HID-X-White High Beam-6 LED Sidelights-Quad LED Boot Light-JDM OEM Smoked Front Fogs-JDM Blue Reverse Bulbs-LS430 Smoked Side Repeaters-6 LED Side Repeaters-Chrome Indicator Bulbs-Alpine HU-Rear Headrest Monitors-PIAA Super Sporza-Fan Washer Jets-Lex Tax Disc Holder-Chrome Gear Knob-2003 Cup Holder-Toyo Proxes T1-R
30-03-2017, 03:08 AM
If your using TTE springs from Toyota then surely they would not have designed them to the point where they go out of range on adjustments?
I have the TTE springs on standard shocks and have no issues although I will admit i have not had any of it adjusted but then I have no wear problems, I frequently check my tyre depths and I am running equal across the board front and back!!
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russelllinn
30-03-2017, 03:08 AM #24It is a bit strange, I am with Steve in the thought process. The same with the wheel sizes as I still have the 17" Lexus wheel as a get me home spare, as the size with the different tyre is the same as my 18".
If your using TTE springs from Toyota then surely they would not have designed them to the point where they go out of range on adjustments?
I have the TTE springs on standard shocks and have no issues although I will admit i have not had any of it adjusted but then I have no wear problems, I frequently check my tyre depths and I am running equal across the board front and back!!
30-03-2017, 05:04 AM
russelllinn If your using TTE springs from Toyota then surely they would not have designed them to the point where they go out of range on adjustments?
You would think so mate, however dont forget that the IS comes out of the factory with the wrong geo settings:cursing::laugh:
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russelllinn If your using TTE springs from Toyota then surely they would not have designed them to the point where they go out of range on adjustments?
You would think so mate, however dont forget that the IS comes out of the factory with the wrong geo settings:cursing::laugh:
Tinted Glass-Sports Grill-Debadged-TTE Spoiler-TTE Lowering Springs-PLUK Kazama Exhaust-18" Aero Alloys-K&N Air Filter-Denso Iridium Power Spark Plugs-Quad Tail Light Conversion-6000K HID-X-White High Beam-6 LED Sidelights-Quad LED Boot Light-JDM OEM Smoked Front Fogs-JDM Blue Reverse Bulbs-LS430 Smoked Side Repeaters-6 LED Side Repeaters-Chrome Indicator Bulbs-Alpine HU-Rear Headrest Monitors-PIAA Super Sporza-Fan Washer Jets-Lex Tax Disc Holder-Chrome Gear Knob-2003 Cup Holder-Toyo Proxes T1-R
30-03-2017, 09:05 AM
russelllinn It is a bit strange, I am with Steve in the thought process. The same with the wheel sizes as I still have the 17" Lexus wheel as a get me home spare, as the size with the different tyre is the same as my 18".
If your using TTE springs from Toyota then surely they would not have designed them to the point where they go out of range on adjustments?
I have the TTE springs on standard shocks and have no issues although I will admit i have not had any of it adjusted but then I have no wear problems, I frequently check my tyre depths and I am running equal across the board front and back!!
Youd stil benefit from a set up, i think youd be suprised
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russelllinn It is a bit strange, I am with Steve in the thought process. The same with the wheel sizes as I still have the 17" Lexus wheel as a get me home spare, as the size with the different tyre is the same as my 18".
If your using TTE springs from Toyota then surely they would not have designed them to the point where they go out of range on adjustments?
I have the TTE springs on standard shocks and have no issues although I will admit i have not had any of it adjusted but then I have no wear problems, I frequently check my tyre depths and I am running equal across the board front and back!!
Youd stil benefit from a set up, i think youd be suprised
31-03-2017, 12:27 PM
DJ Wozza Every chassis will be slightly different, but Tony from WIM will be the one to answer that ?
Yep you are right, no 2 chassis's are the same so you can't predict what will happen when you lower the car.
An example would be mine (the mondeo), it's lowered 30mm yet I got camber wear on the inside. Yet alot of cars have been lowered 60mm with no camber wear at all! :blink:
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E55EX_RACER
31-03-2017, 12:27 PM #27DJ Wozza Every chassis will be slightly different, but Tony from WIM will be the one to answer that ?
Yep you are right, no 2 chassis's are the same so you can't predict what will happen when you lower the car.
An example would be mine (the mondeo), it's lowered 30mm yet I got camber wear on the inside. Yet alot of cars have been lowered 60mm with no camber wear at all! :blink:
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