auto folding mirrors
auto folding mirrors
Mr Reman Well, I've finally got this mod fitted.
I used the "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board" that Rabster posted a link too and a project box from Maplin's. I reckon that all in the parts I actually used for the final attempt cost about 25 quid (Plus about the same in bit's that I turned into to scrap on my 2 board building attempts. :bored
If anyone else wants to follow the less "hands on" route to doing this mod, Rather than adding a link to an Ebay auction that might be gone in a month, Here's a link to the sellers shop. From there you can do a search for the item titled "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board".
With the diagrams showing what you're trying to achieve and one of these relay board, it should be possible for most of us "Less able" people who want to do this mod to be able to get it to work.
Once you get your head around what you're actually trying to make the unit do (ie, When triggered, The unit needs to open 2 switches (Within the relay) to disconnect the mirrors original power feeds and closes another 2 to send 12 volts to the mirrors for just under 5 seconds. As long as the polarity is correct the mirrors will fold in. When you unlock the car and turn on the ignition the unit doesn't get involved, The mirrors open as they would normally) it's an incredibly easy mod to do.
I found a permanent live in the fuse box (A large white wire in the plug that's situated at the top front of the fuse box. On that plug it's the wire nearest you at the bottom) and "*Scotch blocked" onto that. For the negative I just found a convenient bolt, fitted a crimp on ring terminal to the wire and clamped it to the metalwork.
I used another "Scotch block" to attach the trigger/alarm wire.
I used insulated crimp plugs/sockets on the mirror wires, But made sure I alternated the male/female plugs so if I want to remove the unit I can just reconnect the mirrors wires without having to mess about with yet more crimp connectors.
After all the agro I had (Not successfully) making the boards, I went through this uber methodically. First I connected the trigger and earth wires , Then powering the unit from an external battery pack connected to the live and this earth point I tested that the board would recognise the trigger signal (It did). Then I linked the units positive into the thick white wire I mentioned above, And retested it (Still fine). Then I spliced it into the mirrors wires and with the unit turned off, Tested the mirrors still worked (Getting excited now. :biggrin. Finally, Flicked the switch, locked the doors and watched in ore as the mirrors folded away, just as they should have made them do from the factory.
So, All in all, I'm happy with this mod. I wish I'd got the home made board to work properly (But I suppose someone had to c0ck it right up....... So it might as well be me. :whistling
(I'm not really a fan of Scotch blocks and crimp connectors, But as access is pretty tight in there, I didn't want to risk toasting half the wiring loom with my gas soldering iron)
I will be making up some kits of these to sell on for making the mirrors fold in and out on the alarm control
I will also put a guide up on fitting the kits using the link or the kits that i will be knocking out
Almost Finished has the Kit ready from my 1st batch so will get this fitted ASAP
Mr Reman Well, I've finally got this mod fitted.
I used the "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board" that Rabster posted a link too and a project box from Maplin's. I reckon that all in the parts I actually used for the final attempt cost about 25 quid (Plus about the same in bit's that I turned into to scrap on my 2 board building attempts. :bored
If anyone else wants to follow the less "hands on" route to doing this mod, Rather than adding a link to an Ebay auction that might be gone in a month, Here's a link to the sellers shop. From there you can do a search for the item titled "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board".
With the diagrams showing what you're trying to achieve and one of these relay board, it should be possible for most of us "Less able" people who want to do this mod to be able to get it to work.
Once you get your head around what you're actually trying to make the unit do (ie, When triggered, The unit needs to open 2 switches (Within the relay) to disconnect the mirrors original power feeds and closes another 2 to send 12 volts to the mirrors for just under 5 seconds. As long as the polarity is correct the mirrors will fold in. When you unlock the car and turn on the ignition the unit doesn't get involved, The mirrors open as they would normally) it's an incredibly easy mod to do.
I found a permanent live in the fuse box (A large white wire in the plug that's situated at the top front of the fuse box. On that plug it's the wire nearest you at the bottom) and "*Scotch blocked" onto that. For the negative I just found a convenient bolt, fitted a crimp on ring terminal to the wire and clamped it to the metalwork.
I used another "Scotch block" to attach the trigger/alarm wire.
I used insulated crimp plugs/sockets on the mirror wires, But made sure I alternated the male/female plugs so if I want to remove the unit I can just reconnect the mirrors wires without having to mess about with yet more crimp connectors.
After all the agro I had (Not successfully) making the boards, I went through this uber methodically. First I connected the trigger and earth wires , Then powering the unit from an external battery pack connected to the live and this earth point I tested that the board would recognise the trigger signal (It did). Then I linked the units positive into the thick white wire I mentioned above, And retested it (Still fine). Then I spliced it into the mirrors wires and with the unit turned off, Tested the mirrors still worked (Getting excited now. :biggrin
So, All in all, I'm happy with this mod. I wish I'd got the home made board to work properly (But I suppose someone had to c0ck it right up....... So it might as well be me. :whistling
(I'm not really a fan of Scotch blocks and crimp connectors, But as access is pretty tight in there, I didn't want to risk toasting half the wiring loom with my gas soldering iron)
I will be making up some kits of these to sell on for making the mirrors fold in and out on the alarm control
I will also put a guide up on fitting the kits using the link or the kits that i will be knocking out
Almost Finished has the Kit ready from my 1st batch so will get this fitted ASAP
I used the "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board" that Rabster posted a link too and a project box from Maplin's. I reckon that all in the parts I actually used for the final attempt cost about 25 quid (Plus about the same in bit's that I turned into to scrap on my 2 board building attempts. :bored
If anyone else wants to follow the less "hands on" route to doing this mod, Rather than adding a link to an Ebay auction that might be gone in a month, Here's a link to the sellers shop. From there you can do a search for the item titled "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board".
With the diagrams showing what you're trying to achieve and one of these relay board, it should be possible for most of us "Less able" people who want to do this mod to be able to get it to work.
Once you get your head around what you're actually trying to make the unit do (ie, When triggered, The unit needs to open 2 switches (Within the relay) to disconnect the mirrors original power feeds and closes another 2 to send 12 volts to the mirrors for just under 5 seconds. As long as the polarity is correct the mirrors will fold in. When you unlock the car and turn on the ignition the unit doesn't get involved, The mirrors open as they would normally) it's an incredibly easy mod to do.
I found a permanent live in the fuse box (A large white wire in the plug that's situated at the top front of the fuse box. On that plug it's the wire nearest you at the bottom) and "*Scotch blocked" onto that. For the negative I just found a convenient bolt, fitted a crimp on ring terminal to the wire and clamped it to the metalwork.
I used another "Scotch block" to attach the trigger/alarm wire.
I used insulated crimp plugs/sockets on the mirror wires, But made sure I alternated the male/female plugs so if I want to remove the unit I can just reconnect the mirrors wires without having to mess about with yet more crimp connectors.
After all the agro I had (Not successfully) making the boards, I went through this uber methodically. First I connected the trigger and earth wires , Then powering the unit from an external battery pack connected to the live and this earth point I tested that the board would recognise the trigger signal (It did). Then I linked the units positive into the thick white wire I mentioned above, And retested it (Still fine). Then I spliced it into the mirrors wires and with the unit turned off, Tested the mirrors still worked (Getting excited now. :biggrin
. Finally, Flicked the switch, locked the doors and watched in ore as the mirrors folded away, just as they should have made them do from the factory.All in all, I'm happy with how this mod turned out. I wish I'd got the home made board to work properly (But I suppose someone had to c0ck it right up....... So it might as well be me. :whistling
, But in my head, Using the Ebay board cut this projects difficulty rating by a factor of 3. It changes it from being an electronics project, down to just being a wiring project. If you've been scared off doing this because of the electronic aspect involved, then this could be a less frightening alternative for you.Scotty B.
(I'm not really a fan of Scotch blocks and crimp connectors, But as access is pretty tight in there, I didn't want to risk toasting half the wiring loom with my gas soldering iron)
Air filter by K+N, Exhaust by Japspeed, Brakes by Mintex......... And a scuffed rear arch by my sister.
Well, I've finally got this mod fitted.
I used the "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board" that Rabster posted a link too and a project box from Maplin's. I reckon that all in the parts I actually used for the final attempt cost about 25 quid (Plus about the same in bit's that I turned into to scrap on my 2 board building attempts. :bored
If anyone else wants to follow the less "hands on" route to doing this mod, Rather than adding a link to an Ebay auction that might be gone in a month, Here's a link to the sellers shop. From there you can do a search for the item titled "Variable Timer / Pulsing Relay Board".
With the diagrams showing what you're trying to achieve and one of these relay board, it should be possible for most of us "Less able" people who want to do this mod to be able to get it to work.
Once you get your head around what you're actually trying to make the unit do (ie, When triggered, The unit needs to open 2 switches (Within the relay) to disconnect the mirrors original power feeds and closes another 2 to send 12 volts to the mirrors for just under 5 seconds. As long as the polarity is correct the mirrors will fold in. When you unlock the car and turn on the ignition the unit doesn't get involved, The mirrors open as they would normally) it's an incredibly easy mod to do.
I found a permanent live in the fuse box (A large white wire in the plug that's situated at the top front of the fuse box. On that plug it's the wire nearest you at the bottom) and "*Scotch blocked" onto that. For the negative I just found a convenient bolt, fitted a crimp on ring terminal to the wire and clamped it to the metalwork.
I used another "Scotch block" to attach the trigger/alarm wire.
I used insulated crimp plugs/sockets on the mirror wires, But made sure I alternated the male/female plugs so if I want to remove the unit I can just reconnect the mirrors wires without having to mess about with yet more crimp connectors.
After all the agro I had (Not successfully) making the boards, I went through this uber methodically. First I connected the trigger and earth wires , Then powering the unit from an external battery pack connected to the live and this earth point I tested that the board would recognise the trigger signal (It did). Then I linked the units positive into the thick white wire I mentioned above, And retested it (Still fine). Then I spliced it into the mirrors wires and with the unit turned off, Tested the mirrors still worked (Getting excited now. :biggrin. Finally, Flicked the switch, locked the doors and watched in ore as the mirrors folded away, just as they should have made them do from the factory.
All in all, I'm happy with how this mod turned out. I wish I'd got the home made board to work properly (But I suppose someone had to c0ck it right up....... So it might as well be me. :whistling, But in my head, Using the Ebay board cut this projects difficulty rating by a factor of 3. It changes it from being an electronics project, down to just being a wiring project. If you've been scared off doing this because of the electronic aspect involved, then this could be a less frightening alternative for you.
Scotty B.
(I'm not really a fan of Scotch blocks and crimp connectors, But as access is pretty tight in there, I didn't want to risk toasting half the wiring loom with my gas soldering iron)
Air filter by K+N, Exhaust by Japspeed, Brakes by Mintex......... And a scuffed rear arch by my sister.
Rabster I will be making up some kits of these to sell on for making the mirrors fold in and out on the alarm control
Or as Rabster says here, You could just buy a properly made (And I'm assuming, Tested) board from him. That would REALLY turn the project into a simple 20 minute job that only requires minimal car knowledge !!!!
It would be smaller than the Ebay relay board (Which contains a handful of extra, But for this project, Totally unnecessary features), So subsequently, Rabster's boards would be easier to package and fit away neatly behind the kick panel.
Also, If you hit a problem with wiring it up, It would be a lot more likely that someone here could point you in the right direction, as enough people have used this original design already.
As always, It's your money, So it's your choice. :biggrin:
Scotty B
Air filter by K+N, Exhaust by Japspeed, Brakes by Mintex......... And a scuffed rear arch by my sister.
Rabster I will be making up some kits of these to sell on for making the mirrors fold in and out on the alarm control
Or as Rabster says here, You could just buy a properly made (And I'm assuming, Tested) board from him. That would REALLY turn the project into a simple 20 minute job that only requires minimal car knowledge !!!!
It would be smaller than the Ebay relay board (Which contains a handful of extra, But for this project, Totally unnecessary features), So subsequently, Rabster's boards would be easier to package and fit away neatly behind the kick panel.
Also, If you hit a problem with wiring it up, It would be a lot more likely that someone here could point you in the right direction, as enough people have used this original design already.
As always, It's your money, So it's your choice. :biggrin:
Scotty B
Air filter by K+N, Exhaust by Japspeed, Brakes by Mintex......... And a scuffed rear arch by my sister.
but we really must thank a chap called Geoffers who did all the original leg work and created this project.
In fact although i did once create the board myself i now have an original Geoffers made kit in my car now, it does the sunroof as well,then ive added the windows.
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Sparkystav
02-12-2019, 01:47 PM #74glad you got it working mate,
but we really must thank a chap called Geoffers who did all the original leg work and created this project.
In fact although i did once create the board myself i now have an original Geoffers made kit in my car now, it does the sunroof as well,then ive added the windows.
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Please leave your comments.
Mr Reman I, on the other hand, am the sort of inept plank who while trying to build mine, didn't wait long enough for my gas powered soldering iron to cool down before refilling it. I managed to remove most of the hair from the back my right hand in the ensuing small fireball.
That happens to me a LOT!
Mr Reman I, on the other hand, am the sort of inept plank who while trying to build mine, didn't wait long enough for my gas powered soldering iron to cool down before refilling it. I managed to remove most of the hair from the back my right hand in the ensuing small fireball.
That happens to me a LOT!
Sparkystav glad you got it working mate,
but we really must thank a chap called Geoffers who did all the original leg work and created this project.
In fact although i did once create the board myself i now have an original Geoffers made kit in my car now, it does the sunroof as well,then ive added the windows.
couldnt agree more he did an excellent job with them i never managed to get the sunroof info though
Sparkystav glad you got it working mate,
but we really must thank a chap called Geoffers who did all the original leg work and created this project.
In fact although i did once create the board myself i now have an original Geoffers made kit in my car now, it does the sunroof as well,then ive added the windows.
couldnt agree more he did an excellent job with them i never managed to get the sunroof info though
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The windows are an iffy subject. As they rely on the factory torque limiter so may over time cause damage to the plastic cogs. Although I've had mine on for years with no issues.
It's not hard to make the kit though for the windows.
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Sparkystav
02-12-2019, 04:18 PM #78They won't do the windows.
The windows are an iffy subject. As they rely on the factory torque limiter so may over time cause damage to the plastic cogs. Although I've had mine on for years with no issues.
It's not hard to make the kit though for the windows.
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as for the windows i can make the add on relay module for the windows but you will have to run cables to each of the 4 doors
ok ill get my skates on and see how many i can make this week then lol
as for the windows i can make the add on relay module for the windows but you will have to run cables to each of the 4 doors
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