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RT
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30-06-2016, 09:50 AM
#11
Prices based on stock engine, stock twin tubbies, so would only need a stock ECU.

On Site/premises, only difference being travelling costs maybe a little extra for loan of premises (I have a agreement locally).

As I say, figures off the top of my head, but I wouldn't be far out I don't think.
RT
30-06-2016, 09:50 AM #11

Prices based on stock engine, stock twin tubbies, so would only need a stock ECU.

On Site/premises, only difference being travelling costs maybe a little extra for loan of premises (I have a agreement locally).

As I say, figures off the top of my head, but I wouldn't be far out I don't think.

aaronabbott
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30-06-2016, 09:58 AM
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aaronabbott
30-06-2016, 09:58 AM #12

note to self..........dont spend the wedding fund cos you cant drive it if your deadConfusedcared:


ICE-JVC kw-avx820,JL 300/4,JL 500/1,JL HO210R-W3V2,mb quart rua-216 components,2x veba headrest screens
TRD front lip,hid 8000k,ik 20's,front armrest,18'' black rims with chrome polished lip,k&n filter,hks superdragger,chrome a/c rings,rear view camera,bc coilovers

steviewevie
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30-06-2016, 10:41 AM
#13
I'd be amazed if you could do a 2JZ for 5K Confusedhock:

You'd need a new propshaft, would be advisable to upgrade the brakes, new downpipe etc, and the custom work would be huge.
Edited 11-08-2009, 08:17 PM by steviewevie.

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steviewevie
30-06-2016, 10:41 AM #13

I'd be amazed if you could do a 2JZ for 5K Confusedhock:

You'd need a new propshaft, would be advisable to upgrade the brakes, new downpipe etc, and the custom work would be huge.


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Dan_Turism0
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30-06-2016, 10:49 AM
#14
if you could go 2jz for less than 8k all inc then that's a bargain

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Dan_Turism0
30-06-2016, 10:49 AM #14

if you could go 2jz for less than 8k all inc then that's a bargain


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Sparkystav
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30-06-2016, 10:54 AM
#15
steviewevie I'd be amazed if you could do a 2JZ for 5K Confusedhock:

You'd need a new propshaft, would be advisable to upgrade the brakes, new downpipe etc, and the custom work would be huge.

Must agree, a custom exhaust would cost more then £400 in materials i'd imagine

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Sparkystav
30-06-2016, 10:54 AM #15

steviewevie I'd be amazed if you could do a 2JZ for 5K Confusedhock:

You'd need a new propshaft, would be advisable to upgrade the brakes, new downpipe etc, and the custom work would be huge.

Must agree, a custom exhaust would cost more then £400 in materials i'd imagine


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RT
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30-06-2016, 11:06 AM
#16
steviewevie I'd be amazed if you could do a 2JZ for 5K Confusedhock:

You'd need a new propshaft, would be advisable to upgrade the brakes, new downpipe etc, and the custom work would be huge.

You'd only need a new front half, unless the IS rear is weak, custom front prop £180 (just had one made for the Aristo T51 project)

When do brakes come into an engine conversion costing? :blink:

What custom work would be huge?

Seem to be loosing track, we're talking about an engine conversion. You wouldn't need a full custom exhaust, the custom bit would be the front section.
RT
30-06-2016, 11:06 AM #16

steviewevie I'd be amazed if you could do a 2JZ for 5K Confusedhock:

You'd need a new propshaft, would be advisable to upgrade the brakes, new downpipe etc, and the custom work would be huge.

You'd only need a new front half, unless the IS rear is weak, custom front prop £180 (just had one made for the Aristo T51 project)

When do brakes come into an engine conversion costing? :blink:

What custom work would be huge?

Seem to be loosing track, we're talking about an engine conversion. You wouldn't need a full custom exhaust, the custom bit would be the front section.

steviewevie
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30-06-2016, 11:15 AM
#17
Roadside Tech When do brakes come into an engine conversion costing? :blink:

What custom work would be huge?

Seem to be loosing track, we're talking about an engine conversion. You wouldn't need a full custom exhaust, the custom bit would be the front section.
Surely when you do an engine conversion you need to check the rest of the car can handle it. You wouldn't put a hugely uprated engine in if you thought the brakes weren't up to the job, surely ? So it's sensible to cost things like that in.

Custom work would be huge like physically getting it all in, engine mounts etc, getting the a/c working, all the ancillaries connected back up, cooling and pretty much everything in the engine bay, as well as the front end of the exhaust and propshaft as you say. Also the electronics, things like the rev counter, etc, etc.


Sorry but I think you're hugely underestimating the work involved.

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steviewevie
30-06-2016, 11:15 AM #17

Roadside Tech When do brakes come into an engine conversion costing? :blink:

What custom work would be huge?

Seem to be loosing track, we're talking about an engine conversion. You wouldn't need a full custom exhaust, the custom bit would be the front section.
Surely when you do an engine conversion you need to check the rest of the car can handle it. You wouldn't put a hugely uprated engine in if you thought the brakes weren't up to the job, surely ? So it's sensible to cost things like that in.

Custom work would be huge like physically getting it all in, engine mounts etc, getting the a/c working, all the ancillaries connected back up, cooling and pretty much everything in the engine bay, as well as the front end of the exhaust and propshaft as you say. Also the electronics, things like the rev counter, etc, etc.


Sorry but I think you're hugely underestimating the work involved.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Sparkystav
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30-06-2016, 11:20 AM
#18
steviewevie Surely when you do an engine conversion you need to check the rest of the car can handle it. You wouldn't put a hugely uprated engine in if you thought the brakes weren't up to the job, surely ? So it's sensible to cost things like that in.

Custom work would be huge like physically getting it all in, engine mounts etc, getting the a/c working, all the ancillaries connected back up, cooling and pretty much everything in the engine bay, as well as the front end of the exhaust and propshaft as you say. Also the electronics, things like the rev counter, etc, etc.


Sorry but I think you're hugely underestimating the work involved.


Not all of that would be involved Stevie, if using the standard ecus side by side (much like marcus currently is) would solve a lot of the problems.

but AFAIK the engine wont go straight in, your right about engine mounts, but does the sump not need modifying as well?

As for the exhaust, yes you could just make a front section but it'd be very restrictive IMHO as the IS exhaust is pretty small.

Also what Gearbox would you use a i said before about how rare the r154 is getting.

not trying to doubt your work, just asking questions i have in case somethings been missed.

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Sparkystav
30-06-2016, 11:20 AM #18

steviewevie Surely when you do an engine conversion you need to check the rest of the car can handle it. You wouldn't put a hugely uprated engine in if you thought the brakes weren't up to the job, surely ? So it's sensible to cost things like that in.

Custom work would be huge like physically getting it all in, engine mounts etc, getting the a/c working, all the ancillaries connected back up, cooling and pretty much everything in the engine bay, as well as the front end of the exhaust and propshaft as you say. Also the electronics, things like the rev counter, etc, etc.


Sorry but I think you're hugely underestimating the work involved.


Not all of that would be involved Stevie, if using the standard ecus side by side (much like marcus currently is) would solve a lot of the problems.

but AFAIK the engine wont go straight in, your right about engine mounts, but does the sump not need modifying as well?

As for the exhaust, yes you could just make a front section but it'd be very restrictive IMHO as the IS exhaust is pretty small.

Also what Gearbox would you use a i said before about how rare the r154 is getting.

not trying to doubt your work, just asking questions i have in case somethings been missed.


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Sparkystav
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30-06-2016, 11:23 AM
#19
also, In my opinion, and my opinion only.

its a very basic way of doing it.
without a custom ECU and full exhaust it'd be very limited. i doubt you;d get the standard 320bhp (or 280 for a jap engine) out of it.

I must stress this is just my thoughts. and i'd love to see it completed.

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Sparkystav
30-06-2016, 11:23 AM #19

also, In my opinion, and my opinion only.

its a very basic way of doing it.
without a custom ECU and full exhaust it'd be very limited. i doubt you;d get the standard 320bhp (or 280 for a jap engine) out of it.

I must stress this is just my thoughts. and i'd love to see it completed.


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RT
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30-06-2016, 11:27 AM
#20
Brakes, tyres, suspension, underpants, chassis rigidity, diff etc should all be considered when tuning. The thread title is about an engine conversion and a guy through his engine options and some prices that are already out there. Are the other prices quoted anything other than for a running engine conversion?

I don't mean to be rude, but what is it you do for a living? I don't mind being doubted by another mechanic, but not another IT guy who's got his experience by the internet.

I've probably done 5 or 6 conversions over the years, Toyota engines in Nissans, Yanky into Toyota, auto to manual conversions etc blah etc blah
RT
30-06-2016, 11:27 AM #20

Brakes, tyres, suspension, underpants, chassis rigidity, diff etc should all be considered when tuning. The thread title is about an engine conversion and a guy through his engine options and some prices that are already out there. Are the other prices quoted anything other than for a running engine conversion?

I don't mean to be rude, but what is it you do for a living? I don't mind being doubted by another mechanic, but not another IT guy who's got his experience by the internet.

I've probably done 5 or 6 conversions over the years, Toyota engines in Nissans, Yanky into Toyota, auto to manual conversions etc blah etc blah

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