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tyre size help

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Lexuspat
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15-09-2018, 02:31 AM
#1
hi all,

i have been offered a set of tyres for nothing from a mate but not sure if they would fit my standard 17" lexus alloy wheel

i have on the car 215/45/17 and these are 215/40/17 would this make any difference and would they be ok on the rim

please help i useless when it comes to tyres

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Lexuspat
15-09-2018, 02:31 AM #1

hi all,

i have been offered a set of tyres for nothing from a mate but not sure if they would fit my standard 17" lexus alloy wheel

i have on the car 215/45/17 and these are 215/40/17 would this make any difference and would they be ok on the rim

please help i useless when it comes to tyres


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SHAHZ
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15-09-2018, 02:42 AM
#2
the number 40 is the sidewall profile mate, so it will be 5mm lower than the 45 you currently have, will fit, just means a slightly harsher ride! but that is well and truley compensated for when they are free Big Grin
Edited 27-10-2011, 12:17 PM by SHAHZ.

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SHAHZ
15-09-2018, 02:42 AM #2

the number 40 is the sidewall profile mate, so it will be 5mm lower than the 45 you currently have, will fit, just means a slightly harsher ride! but that is well and truley compensated for when they are free Big Grin


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Lexuspat
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15-09-2018, 02:57 AM
#3
thanks Shahz like i said im useless with tyre info lol

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Lexuspat
15-09-2018, 02:57 AM #3

thanks Shahz like i said im useless with tyre info lol


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Stoney
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15-09-2018, 03:46 AM
#4
Will fit just on the wheels perfectly mate.

On the plus side, you will have a slightly lower, though slightly harsher ride, and this should boost both handling and acceleration a tiny bit. On the downside, the tyres may look a bit skinny and the overall wheel size may look too small, your speedo will read under a couple of percent and top speed will drop marginally.

Info for you below:
(The forum always murders table formatting! The first figure is for the stock tyre and the second figure for your proposed new one, for each respective aspect.)

Diameter: 625.3mm 603.8mm
Circumference: 1964.4mm 1896.9mm
Speedo error: 0% 3.56%
Reading at 30mph: 30mph 31.07mph
Reading at 60mph: 60mph 62.14mph
Ride height loss: 0mm 10.75mm
Arch gap increase: 0mm 10.75mm
Edited 27-10-2011, 01:21 PM by Stoney.

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Stoney
15-09-2018, 03:46 AM #4

Will fit just on the wheels perfectly mate.

On the plus side, you will have a slightly lower, though slightly harsher ride, and this should boost both handling and acceleration a tiny bit. On the downside, the tyres may look a bit skinny and the overall wheel size may look too small, your speedo will read under a couple of percent and top speed will drop marginally.

Info for you below:
(The forum always murders table formatting! The first figure is for the stock tyre and the second figure for your proposed new one, for each respective aspect.)

Diameter: 625.3mm 603.8mm
Circumference: 1964.4mm 1896.9mm
Speedo error: 0% 3.56%
Reading at 30mph: 30mph 31.07mph
Reading at 60mph: 60mph 62.14mph
Ride height loss: 0mm 10.75mm
Arch gap increase: 0mm 10.75mm


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Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

Stoney
Posting Freak
2,117
15-09-2018, 03:56 AM
#5
SHAHZ the number 40 is the sidewall profile mate, so it will be 5mm lower than the 45 you currently have, will fit, just means a slightly harsher ride! but that is well and truley compensated for when they are free Big Grin

You are right that the second number is height, but it is not in mm. It is as a percentage of the width. So 215/45/17 is 215mm wide on a 17" rim, but the sidewall height is 215mm x 45% = 96.75mm. 215/40/17 is 215mm wide on a 17" rim but with a sidewall height of 215mm x 40% = 86mm. A difference in this case of 10.75mm. This is each side, so overall the wheels will be 21.5mm smaller in diameter, though only 10.75mm difference in ride height, seeing as only the half of the wheel below the axle effects the height of the car, the other 10.75mm difference is in the extended gap between the top of the tyre and the arch.

Effectively; the car will drive like it's been lowered 1cm, but look like it's been raised 1cm!

[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:
Stoney
15-09-2018, 03:56 AM #5

SHAHZ the number 40 is the sidewall profile mate, so it will be 5mm lower than the 45 you currently have, will fit, just means a slightly harsher ride! but that is well and truley compensated for when they are free Big Grin

You are right that the second number is height, but it is not in mm. It is as a percentage of the width. So 215/45/17 is 215mm wide on a 17" rim, but the sidewall height is 215mm x 45% = 96.75mm. 215/40/17 is 215mm wide on a 17" rim but with a sidewall height of 215mm x 40% = 86mm. A difference in this case of 10.75mm. This is each side, so overall the wheels will be 21.5mm smaller in diameter, though only 10.75mm difference in ride height, seeing as only the half of the wheel below the axle effects the height of the car, the other 10.75mm difference is in the extended gap between the top of the tyre and the arch.

Effectively; the car will drive like it's been lowered 1cm, but look like it's been raised 1cm!


[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

FirebirdPhil
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7,101
15-09-2018, 09:57 AM
#6
SHAHZ the number 40 is the sidewall profile mate, so it will be 5mm lower than the 45 you currently have, will fit, just means a slightly harsher ride! but that is well and truley compensated for when they are free Big Grin

No side wall it a percentage of the tyre width.

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totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
15-09-2018, 09:57 AM #6

SHAHZ the number 40 is the sidewall profile mate, so it will be 5mm lower than the 45 you currently have, will fit, just means a slightly harsher ride! but that is well and truley compensated for when they are free Big Grin

No side wall it a percentage of the tyre width.


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Lexuspat
Administrator
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15-09-2018, 10:07 AM
#7
thanks for all the info on what is what regarding tyres.

and im happy that they will fit so ill be sorting these out soon before the weather gets any worse

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Lexuspat
15-09-2018, 10:07 AM #7

thanks for all the info on what is what regarding tyres.

and im happy that they will fit so ill be sorting these out soon before the weather gets any worse


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Stoney
Posting Freak
2,117
15-09-2018, 10:28 AM
#8
2tongues No side wall it a percentage of the tyre width.

Is there an echo in here? Smile

[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:
Stoney
15-09-2018, 10:28 AM #8

2tongues No side wall it a percentage of the tyre width.

Is there an echo in here? Smile


[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

FirebirdPhil
Posting Freak
7,101
15-09-2018, 10:44 AM
#9
Stoney Is there an echo in here? Smile

I missed your post as I just hit quote without reading the thread - I do that its big and clever:whistling:

"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
FirebirdPhil
15-09-2018, 10:44 AM #9

Stoney Is there an echo in here? Smile

I missed your post as I just hit quote without reading the thread - I do that its big and clever:whistling:


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

jay_russell
Posting Freak
3,005
15-09-2018, 10:46 AM
#10
it's so crazy with tyre sizes,
the first 3 numbers are in mm ( 215)
the next 2 numbers are a % of the first
and the last 2 numbers are in inches

what a mess Smile and i work with this every day
jay_russell
15-09-2018, 10:46 AM #10

it's so crazy with tyre sizes,
the first 3 numbers are in mm ( 215)
the next 2 numbers are a % of the first
and the last 2 numbers are in inches

what a mess Smile and i work with this every day

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