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reganlives
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12-07-2019, 05:52 AM
#1
I've just been thinking about getting my original 17" wheels stripped and powder coated so I can use them during the winter instead of my TTE Grand Prix wheels but I've noticed a few places sway to either shot blasting or acid dipping/stripping the wheels prior to coating etc. From what I know everyone tends to get them shot blasted but I have read that acid stripping is better as blasting can leave pitting.

Does anyone know whats the best option these days? Doesnt the acid attack the alloy itself though?

Anyone suggest any good/cheap places that do this in manchester? Also what colour should I go for?
reganlives
12-07-2019, 05:52 AM #1

I've just been thinking about getting my original 17" wheels stripped and powder coated so I can use them during the winter instead of my TTE Grand Prix wheels but I've noticed a few places sway to either shot blasting or acid dipping/stripping the wheels prior to coating etc. From what I know everyone tends to get them shot blasted but I have read that acid stripping is better as blasting can leave pitting.

Does anyone know whats the best option these days? Doesnt the acid attack the alloy itself though?

Anyone suggest any good/cheap places that do this in manchester? Also what colour should I go for?

Fozzy
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1,132
12-07-2019, 07:01 AM
#2
If its being coated it doesn't really matter. If they were being painted then the pitting can show through. If its a proper wheel refurber they will know what they're doing

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Fozzy
12-07-2019, 07:01 AM #2

If its being coated it doesn't really matter. If they were being painted then the pitting can show through. If its a proper wheel refurber they will know what they're doing


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mplavery
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906
12-07-2019, 07:28 AM
#3
I think if you sandblast alloys you need a hard sand to get through the paint which could cause pitting so maybe thats why people dip them

How about trying to strip the paint off you self ? will cut cost for sure

Im getting some paint off some of my Turbo pipes and im using Nitromors

I have been told it takes of ANYTHING so im going to give that ago tonight

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mplavery
12-07-2019, 07:28 AM #3

I think if you sandblast alloys you need a hard sand to get through the paint which could cause pitting so maybe thats why people dip them

How about trying to strip the paint off you self ? will cut cost for sure

Im getting some paint off some of my Turbo pipes and im using Nitromors

I have been told it takes of ANYTHING so im going to give that ago tonight


[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
[COLOR="Orange"]JAPANESE PERFORMANCE FEATURE SEPT 2011 Big Grin

BEST OVERALL SUPRA WINNER ACE CAFE 23/06/11

2nd BEST IN SHOW (JAE 2011)

3rd BEST MODIFIED (JAE 2011)


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http://www.outlawjapclub.co.uk/forum/sho...php?t=5851

reganlives
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12-07-2019, 07:47 AM
#4
yeh I've heard of Nitromors, its meant to be crazy stuff. Think the alloys may have to be a next project for me! lol...Wonder how they would look if polished hmmm
reganlives
12-07-2019, 07:47 AM #4

yeh I've heard of Nitromors, its meant to be crazy stuff. Think the alloys may have to be a next project for me! lol...Wonder how they would look if polished hmmm

lexuslloyd
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12-07-2019, 11:43 AM
#5
reganlives I've just been thinking about getting my original 17" wheels stripped and powder coated so I can use them during the winter instead of my TTE Grand Prix wheels but I've noticed a few places sway to either shot blasting or acid dipping/stripping the wheels prior to coating etc. From what I know everyone tends to get them shot blasted but I have read that acid stripping is better as blasting can leave pitting.

Does anyone know whats the best option these days? Doesnt the acid attack the alloy itself though?

Anyone suggest any good/cheap places that do this in manchester? Also what colour should I go for?

Shame your so far up. City powder coaters in brum do them for £20 a wheel. the ones I have on my motor are powder coated and look good for the money.
lexuslloyd
12-07-2019, 11:43 AM #5

reganlives I've just been thinking about getting my original 17" wheels stripped and powder coated so I can use them during the winter instead of my TTE Grand Prix wheels but I've noticed a few places sway to either shot blasting or acid dipping/stripping the wheels prior to coating etc. From what I know everyone tends to get them shot blasted but I have read that acid stripping is better as blasting can leave pitting.

Does anyone know whats the best option these days? Doesnt the acid attack the alloy itself though?

Anyone suggest any good/cheap places that do this in manchester? Also what colour should I go for?

Shame your so far up. City powder coaters in brum do them for £20 a wheel. the ones I have on my motor are powder coated and look good for the money.

Fozzy
Posting Freak
1,132
12-07-2019, 01:20 PM
#6
lexuslloyd Shame your so far up. City powder coaters in brum do them for £20 a wheel. the ones I have on my motor are powder coated and look good for the money.

I got them to do my wheels. Excellent finish on them when they finally pulled their finger out and got round to it! Due to issues I only got charged £40, bargain of the century

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2010 JAE Car Pull Failure

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Fozzy
12-07-2019, 01:20 PM #6

lexuslloyd Shame your so far up. City powder coaters in brum do them for £20 a wheel. the ones I have on my motor are powder coated and look good for the money.

I got them to do my wheels. Excellent finish on them when they finally pulled their finger out and got round to it! Due to issues I only got charged £40, bargain of the century


2009 JAE Car Pull Runner Up
2010 JAE Car Pull Failure

My Garage

Mr Reman
Senior Member
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12-07-2019, 05:53 PM
#7
I just wrote a really long and detailed reply to this one, But I hit backspace when some text wasn't highlighted while I was doing a final rewriting and it all went bye bye. :crying:

I'm not writing it all again so here's the bullet points.......

I used to work in an industrial powdercoating plant, So trust me on this stuff.

Sand or shot blasting is not that good when used on alloy. Bead blasting is better (All blasting embeds some of the abrasive media in soft alloy, The glass in bead blasting is at least inert).

Any blasting can leave an uneven surface because slightly springy paint is more resilient to blasting than soft bare metal. This can be quite noticeable on wheels with wide flat spokes, But not too obvious on ones with thin spokes. If the muppet waving the blasting nozzle isn't careful he can remove 3 to 4mm of metal in a halo around where there was a 1mm thick stubborn section of paint. Either way, Badly blasted wheels can need a foot of wheel weights to get them balanced afterwards.

Someone who's good with a bead blasting rig can hide most curbing marks better than most people could using wet & dry.

These days acid dipping tanks also have inhibitor chemicals added so they won't eat into sound metal, Just paint and corrosion.

If you use Nitromors on wheels your best to jet wash them clean afterwards as the stuff can leach into cast metal and you won't be able to get anything like a nice paint finish if any of it remains there (This goes for cellulose paint and powdercoating).

If you sand out any curbing and corrosion from your wheels first, it's usually cheaper to find an industrial powdercoater (opposed to a wheel refurb specialist) and ask if they can get them acid dipped for you and add them to the end of another job they're doing in your preferred colour. The down side to this is that you might have a 2 or 3 week wait till you can pick your wheels back up.

There! That was the uber condensed version of what I originally wrote.
Hope it helps.

Scotty B.
Edited 23-08-2012, 03:29 AM by Mr Reman.
Mr Reman
12-07-2019, 05:53 PM #7

I just wrote a really long and detailed reply to this one, But I hit backspace when some text wasn't highlighted while I was doing a final rewriting and it all went bye bye. :crying:

I'm not writing it all again so here's the bullet points.......

I used to work in an industrial powdercoating plant, So trust me on this stuff.

Sand or shot blasting is not that good when used on alloy. Bead blasting is better (All blasting embeds some of the abrasive media in soft alloy, The glass in bead blasting is at least inert).

Any blasting can leave an uneven surface because slightly springy paint is more resilient to blasting than soft bare metal. This can be quite noticeable on wheels with wide flat spokes, But not too obvious on ones with thin spokes. If the muppet waving the blasting nozzle isn't careful he can remove 3 to 4mm of metal in a halo around where there was a 1mm thick stubborn section of paint. Either way, Badly blasted wheels can need a foot of wheel weights to get them balanced afterwards.

Someone who's good with a bead blasting rig can hide most curbing marks better than most people could using wet & dry.

These days acid dipping tanks also have inhibitor chemicals added so they won't eat into sound metal, Just paint and corrosion.

If you use Nitromors on wheels your best to jet wash them clean afterwards as the stuff can leach into cast metal and you won't be able to get anything like a nice paint finish if any of it remains there (This goes for cellulose paint and powdercoating).

If you sand out any curbing and corrosion from your wheels first, it's usually cheaper to find an industrial powdercoater (opposed to a wheel refurb specialist) and ask if they can get them acid dipped for you and add them to the end of another job they're doing in your preferred colour. The down side to this is that you might have a 2 or 3 week wait till you can pick your wheels back up.

There! That was the uber condensed version of what I originally wrote.
Hope it helps.

Scotty B.

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
13-07-2019, 01:10 AM
#8
Nitromors is rubbish these days. It's illegal to use the chemical they used to put in it that made it the daddy of paint stripper, so now it's just as good as any other off-the-shelf product.
toxo
13-07-2019, 01:10 AM #8

Nitromors is rubbish these days. It's illegal to use the chemical they used to put in it that made it the daddy of paint stripper, so now it's just as good as any other off-the-shelf product.

Mikey
Senior Member
714
13-07-2019, 01:18 AM
#9
Fozzy, I had the same experience with them a few years ago took a little longer than planned but was a good out come

http://www.citypowdercoating.co.uk/

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Mikey
13-07-2019, 01:18 AM #9

Fozzy, I had the same experience with them a few years ago took a little longer than planned but was a good out come

http://www.citypowdercoating.co.uk/

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reganlives
Posting Freak
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13-07-2019, 06:42 AM
#10
Thanks for such a good explanation Mr Reman! I'm going to look into it all very carefully but that other place...£20 a wheel?! Thats well cheap! Do they literally just do the powder coating or will they tidy up the wheel/kirbing marks as well?

Whats the best way to repair kirbing marks though prior to powder coating?
reganlives
13-07-2019, 06:42 AM #10

Thanks for such a good explanation Mr Reman! I'm going to look into it all very carefully but that other place...£20 a wheel?! Thats well cheap! Do they literally just do the powder coating or will they tidy up the wheel/kirbing marks as well?

Whats the best way to repair kirbing marks though prior to powder coating?

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