Mercedes buy the Brawn F1 team
Mercedes buy the Brawn F1 team
06-10-2016, 02:52 AM
Not everyone likes the way he does things, but everyone agrees he is one of the top 3 drivers in F1 (alongside Hamilton and Alonso) so the fact he doesn't have a drive is sickening as it's all down to corporate politics.
Obviously he still may end up at McLaren (or even more surprisingly at Mercedes) but it does appear a long shot now.
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Well it looks like Button and McLaren are closing in on a deal. Have to say that not purely as a Kimi fan, I think it's a shocker that he probably now won't be in F1 in 2010.
Not everyone likes the way he does things, but everyone agrees he is one of the top 3 drivers in F1 (alongside Hamilton and Alonso) so the fact he doesn't have a drive is sickening as it's all down to corporate politics.
Obviously he still may end up at McLaren (or even more surprisingly at Mercedes) but it does appear a long shot now.
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06-10-2016, 12:12 PM
Marsdendean So mclaren and mercedes have gone there own ways then!
Mercedes are still going to supply engines to McLaren.
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06-10-2016, 12:12 PM #12Marsdendean So mclaren and mercedes have gone there own ways then!
Mercedes are still going to supply engines to McLaren.
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06-10-2016, 12:14 PM
It's clearly an amicable split though, as MB are providing the engines free of charge, plus I think some form of sponsorship for the next few years (which is why the team will still be called McLaren Mercedes for now)
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I guess it makes sense, if McLaren wants to build their own sports cars to directly rival Mercedes ones, there was no way they could have that partnership.
It's clearly an amicable split though, as MB are providing the engines free of charge, plus I think some form of sponsorship for the next few years (which is why the team will still be called McLaren Mercedes for now)
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07-10-2016, 12:11 AM
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07-10-2016, 12:11 AM #14According to this report, Raikonnen's manager says that he won't be in F1 next season.
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07-10-2016, 02:12 AM
steviewevie According to this report, Raikonnen's manager says that he won't be in F1 next season.
It's a real shame for F1, imho Lewis and Kimi are the two best drivers in F1 (Alonso might be a good all rounder, but isn't as spectacular on track as a raw driving talent)
Seeing as bureaucracy has forced him out of F1 it's a real disappointment - however, hopefully he does come back in 2011 (I doubt it though) and I really hope he gets a works citroen WRC drive which has been rumoured, as that could be a lot of fun to watch :w00t:
I was kind of hoping that Mercedes might pick him to up teach Button a lesson, but I don't think either side is probably happy with that.
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steviewevie According to this report, Raikonnen's manager says that he won't be in F1 next season.
It's a real shame for F1, imho Lewis and Kimi are the two best drivers in F1 (Alonso might be a good all rounder, but isn't as spectacular on track as a raw driving talent)
Seeing as bureaucracy has forced him out of F1 it's a real disappointment - however, hopefully he does come back in 2011 (I doubt it though) and I really hope he gets a works citroen WRC drive which has been rumoured, as that could be a lot of fun to watch :w00t:
I was kind of hoping that Mercedes might pick him to up teach Button a lesson, but I don't think either side is probably happy with that.
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07-10-2016, 02:25 AM
Raikkonon going rallying instead of F1, Raikkonen's manager suggests that McLaren have already signed Button.
I think the only thing that forced Raikkonon out of F1 were his salary demands and the fact that his heart doesn't really seem to be in it. I think he got bored/infurated at Ferrari and has been looking for something else to do.
Edit: The Guardian are reporting this morning that McLaren have already signed Button as well.
Edited 18-11-2009, 12:10 PM by toxo.
And http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorspo...365967.stm
Raikkonon going rallying instead of F1, Raikkonen's manager suggests that McLaren have already signed Button.
I think the only thing that forced Raikkonon out of F1 were his salary demands and the fact that his heart doesn't really seem to be in it. I think he got bored/infurated at Ferrari and has been looking for something else to do.
Edit: The Guardian are reporting this morning that McLaren have already signed Button as well.
07-10-2016, 02:54 AM
I'm confused by the Button situation, on one hand everyone's saying that he's already pretty much signed up with McLaren, and then we have Ross Brawn saying that negotiations are still ongoing.
If he really has signed with McLaren without being upfront with Brawn I don't think I'd have the same respect for him as that's a low blow to the guy who brought him from being unemployed to world champion (regardless of salary disagreements going on now)
Something I read on another site that is interesting, next year may end up as:
British team with British drivers vs. German team with German drivers vs. Latin team with Latin drivers.........isn't F1 supposed to be international? :tongue_smilie:
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I don't think it was just salary demands, I think McLaren wanted him to do a lot more publicity work than he wanted, plus they weren't too keen on him doing rallies on the side.........(plus there appears to be pressure from Vodafone about how marketable 2 brits will be)
I'm confused by the Button situation, on one hand everyone's saying that he's already pretty much signed up with McLaren, and then we have Ross Brawn saying that negotiations are still ongoing.
If he really has signed with McLaren without being upfront with Brawn I don't think I'd have the same respect for him as that's a low blow to the guy who brought him from being unemployed to world champion (regardless of salary disagreements going on now)
Something I read on another site that is interesting, next year may end up as:
British team with British drivers vs. German team with German drivers vs. Latin team with Latin drivers.........isn't F1 supposed to be international? :tongue_smilie:
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07-10-2016, 07:09 AM
Button move to McLaren confirmed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorspo...363892.stm
07-10-2016, 07:21 AM
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
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07-10-2016, 07:21 AM #19The thing is Mika Hakkinen was reported to be "only" taking a year out, he never came back. I can't see Kimi ever returning to F1. Equally I can't see Button winning against Hamilton, LH is a far better driver.
"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"
07-10-2016, 08:21 AM
2tongues The thing is Mika Hakkinen was reported to be "only" taking a year out, he never came back. I can't see Kimi ever returning to F1. Equally I can't see Button winning against Hamilton, LH is a far better driver.
Hakkinen was older though, but I do agree with you, I don't think he will come back unless the Red Bull rumours have any truth to them (and they have already quietly agreed something in principle behind closed doors)
And totally agree with Button vs. Hamilton - Button's good, but Hamilton's spectacular.......in that contest there can only be one winner, and it will be Lewis everytime (barring reliability problems)
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2tongues The thing is Mika Hakkinen was reported to be "only" taking a year out, he never came back. I can't see Kimi ever returning to F1. Equally I can't see Button winning against Hamilton, LH is a far better driver.
Hakkinen was older though, but I do agree with you, I don't think he will come back unless the Red Bull rumours have any truth to them (and they have already quietly agreed something in principle behind closed doors)
And totally agree with Button vs. Hamilton - Button's good, but Hamilton's spectacular.......in that contest there can only be one winner, and it will be Lewis everytime (barring reliability problems)
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