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Big question to Ormi????????

Big question to Ormi????????

Dark Samurai
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21-08-2016, 07:38 AM
#1
Need a question to Ormi as he is a great MOT Tester/Instructor (:
My brother went in for an MOT test today and it failed on a few things. But the thing we are baffled about is his Offside Outer handle is snapped off, but the end is left on, but we can still enter the car with the end that is left on. But it failed for "Not being able to enter the Drivers door with the handle" or something along those lines. So I need to ask Ormi, is door handle being snapped off a problem to fail? Or is it the MOT garage being stupid and trying to fail it?
Cheers Ormi, but if any of the other guys have knowledge on this. Please tell me.
Dark Samurai
21-08-2016, 07:38 AM #1

Need a question to Ormi as he is a great MOT Tester/Instructor (:
My brother went in for an MOT test today and it failed on a few things. But the thing we are baffled about is his Offside Outer handle is snapped off, but the end is left on, but we can still enter the car with the end that is left on. But it failed for "Not being able to enter the Drivers door with the handle" or something along those lines. So I need to ask Ormi, is door handle being snapped off a problem to fail? Or is it the MOT garage being stupid and trying to fail it?
Cheers Ormi, but if any of the other guys have knowledge on this. Please tell me.

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
21-08-2016, 07:44 AM
#2
The MoT Testers' manual is here.

Section 6.2 does seem to have something on door handles, a reason for failure is :

Quote:a. A driver's or any passengers door does not latch securely in the closed position
b. a driver's or front passenger's door cannot be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle from the relevant control in each case.
Sounds like with a bit left on that you could use to open it, it should be alright though ? Unless the "relevant control" is the handle which isn't there ? :confused1:

As you say, Ormi is the man who should know !

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steviewevie
21-08-2016, 07:44 AM #2

The MoT Testers' manual is here.

Section 6.2 does seem to have something on door handles, a reason for failure is :

Quote:a. A driver's or any passengers door does not latch securely in the closed position
b. a driver's or front passenger's door cannot be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle from the relevant control in each case.
Sounds like with a bit left on that you could use to open it, it should be alright though ? Unless the "relevant control" is the handle which isn't there ? :confused1:

As you say, Ormi is the man who should know !


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Lexusboy
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9,267
21-08-2016, 07:48 AM
#3
I guess the question the MOT guy would have to ask himself "if this car was in a accident could someone get out the driver out of the car"
This is what is said about doors and why they can fail a MOT
a. A driver's or any passengers door does not latch securely in the closed position
b. a driver's or front passenger's door cannot be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle from the relevant control in each case.

Note: Reason for rejection 1 b does not apply to:
. goods vehicles modified for the carriage of high value cargoes such as armoured security vehicles
. front passenger doors if the door aperture has been permanently 'filled' as part of a specialised customisation provided that there are no obvious aperture gaps.

But come on Ormi spread the word....:thumbup1:
Edited 02-10-2009, 05:56 PM by Lexusboy.
Lexusboy
21-08-2016, 07:48 AM #3

I guess the question the MOT guy would have to ask himself "if this car was in a accident could someone get out the driver out of the car"
This is what is said about doors and why they can fail a MOT
a. A driver's or any passengers door does not latch securely in the closed position
b. a driver's or front passenger's door cannot be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle from the relevant control in each case.

Note: Reason for rejection 1 b does not apply to:
. goods vehicles modified for the carriage of high value cargoes such as armoured security vehicles
. front passenger doors if the door aperture has been permanently 'filled' as part of a specialised customisation provided that there are no obvious aperture gaps.

But come on Ormi spread the word....:thumbup1:

Saraj
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21-08-2016, 08:06 AM
#4
Lexusboy I guess the question the MOT guy would have to ask himself "if this car was in a accident could someone get out the driver out of the car"

But come on Ormi spread the word....:thumbup1:

thats the concern he probally had

[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
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Saraj
21-08-2016, 08:06 AM #4

Lexusboy I guess the question the MOT guy would have to ask himself "if this car was in a accident could someone get out the driver out of the car"

But come on Ormi spread the word....:thumbup1:

thats the concern he probally had


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

ormi
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3,006
21-08-2016, 09:58 AM
#5
sorry wife stole the comp last night!!!!!
if the door can be opened then it cant be a fail take it back show the garage it can be opened from inside and out if they dont listen ask for an appeal form they will prob poop their pants and pass it.
not on the mot topic why not get an other if its snapped?

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ormi
21-08-2016, 09:58 AM #5

sorry wife stole the comp last night!!!!!
if the door can be opened then it cant be a fail take it back show the garage it can be opened from inside and out if they dont listen ask for an appeal form they will prob poop their pants and pass it.
not on the mot topic why not get an other if its snapped?


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Dark Samurai
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21-08-2016, 11:45 AM
#6
Haha on his second door handle now, first one snapped lol and second one snapped.
But yeah it can be opened from both inside and outside. Ill try and get a pic.
Cheers for ur help guys
Dark Samurai
21-08-2016, 11:45 AM #6

Haha on his second door handle now, first one snapped lol and second one snapped.
But yeah it can be opened from both inside and outside. Ill try and get a pic.
Cheers for ur help guys

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