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Quick GEO question?

Quick GEO question?

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Andy-R.
Posting Freak
1,889
26-08-2016, 10:11 AM
#1
Does the GEO need to be set differently depending on the set up of the car? what I mean is if the cars stock would the GEO be same as if it had been lowered or had 18's on or does it need to be altered depending on future mods, if that makes sense:confused1:

40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

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Andy-R.
26-08-2016, 10:11 AM #1

Does the GEO need to be set differently depending on the set up of the car? what I mean is if the cars stock would the GEO be same as if it had been lowered or had 18's on or does it need to be altered depending on future mods, if that makes sense:confused1:


40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
26-08-2016, 10:14 AM
#2
Putting 18" wheels on your car shouldn't affect the geo. Lowering it means you need to "recover" the geo after the lowering, i.e. set it back to the proper geo settings.

Other factors can possibly put the geo out slightly, e.g. fitting uprated ARBs can make it stiffer and possibly sit a bit differently.

However, what I think you may be asking is that if the car is lowered, the actual geo settings that you set it to can be slightly different, e.g. the IS200 can take more negative camber if it is lowered.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
26-08-2016, 10:14 AM #2

Putting 18" wheels on your car shouldn't affect the geo. Lowering it means you need to "recover" the geo after the lowering, i.e. set it back to the proper geo settings.

Other factors can possibly put the geo out slightly, e.g. fitting uprated ARBs can make it stiffer and possibly sit a bit differently.

However, what I think you may be asking is that if the car is lowered, the actual geo settings that you set it to can be slightly different, e.g. the IS200 can take more negative camber if it is lowered.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

aaronabbott
Posting Freak
804
26-08-2016, 10:14 AM
#3
the settings would be different,as when lowered it changes castor and camber angles and all the other associated stuff.
but to low and your stuffed:thumbdown:

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aaronabbott
26-08-2016, 10:14 AM #3

the settings would be different,as when lowered it changes castor and camber angles and all the other associated stuff.
but to low and your stuffed:thumbdown:


ICE-JVC kw-avx820,JL 300/4,JL 500/1,JL HO210R-W3V2,mb quart rua-216 components,2x veba headrest screens
TRD front lip,hid 8000k,ik 20's,front armrest,18'' black rims with chrome polished lip,k&n filter,hks superdragger,chrome a/c rings,rear view camera,bc coilovers

Andy-R.
Posting Freak
1,889
26-08-2016, 10:25 AM
#4
Ok cheers so when I get mine done soon to stock settings (WIM not Lex) if I get coilcovers to lower it'll need doin again depending on the drop?

40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]
Andy-R.
26-08-2016, 10:25 AM #4

Ok cheers so when I get mine done soon to stock settings (WIM not Lex) if I get coilcovers to lower it'll need doin again depending on the drop?


40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
26-08-2016, 10:26 AM
#5
Yes, if you alter the ride height then the geo will be altered significantly, and then the geo will need recovering to get it back into the correct range.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
26-08-2016, 10:26 AM #5

Yes, if you alter the ride height then the geo will be altered significantly, and then the geo will need recovering to get it back into the correct range.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Andy-R.
Posting Freak
1,889
26-08-2016, 10:28 AM
#6
Thought so, cheers.

40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]
Andy-R.
26-08-2016, 10:28 AM #6

Thought so, cheers.


40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]

99
26-08-2016, 11:48 AM
#7
For the modified chassis the OEM suggested positions are redundant. As a calibrator i have to know what modifications have been made and what intentions there are for the car. Born from this a unique chassis set-up needs to evolve in order to compliment the mods.
wheels-inmotion
26-08-2016, 11:48 AM #7

For the modified chassis the OEM suggested positions are redundant. As a calibrator i have to know what modifications have been made and what intentions there are for the car. Born from this a unique chassis set-up needs to evolve in order to compliment the mods.

Moley
Posting Freak
6,230
26-08-2016, 11:52 AM
#8
Was there not a post before on the *** that said you can get something to help you do the GEO if the car had been lowered . I seam to remember something but not sure what.
???????????:blushing::blushing:

Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
Moley
26-08-2016, 11:52 AM #8

Was there not a post before on the *** that said you can get something to help you do the GEO if the car had been lowered . I seam to remember something but not sure what.
???????????:blushing::blushing:


Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice

Andy-R.
Posting Freak
1,889
27-08-2016, 12:31 AM
#9
wheels-inmotion For the modified chassis the OEM suggested positions are redundant. As a calibrator i have to know what modifications have been made and what intentions there are for the car. Born from this a unique chassis set-up needs to evolve in order to compliment the mods.

So for unmodified are the OEM settings ok? is it only when you start changing things they become useless or are the no good from the start? basically I want the GEO sorting on a standard car for now but I may be going lower in the future just not anytime time soon, have you got a list of variants for different mods and lower ride heights or are all cars unique and require there own specific settings? as you can tell I don't really know much about it all:blink:

40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]
Andy-R.
27-08-2016, 12:31 AM #9

wheels-inmotion For the modified chassis the OEM suggested positions are redundant. As a calibrator i have to know what modifications have been made and what intentions there are for the car. Born from this a unique chassis set-up needs to evolve in order to compliment the mods.

So for unmodified are the OEM settings ok? is it only when you start changing things they become useless or are the no good from the start? basically I want the GEO sorting on a standard car for now but I may be going lower in the future just not anytime time soon, have you got a list of variants for different mods and lower ride heights or are all cars unique and require there own specific settings? as you can tell I don't really know much about it all:blink:


40mm Lowering Springs, Re-sprayed Front, 6000K HID's, Re-furbed alloys, Bandit Induction Kit (cheers Chris), Raised boot spoiler with LED, Blue calipers with silver decals, De-badged rear, Chrome Oil Filler Cap (thanks to Chris again), White LED dash bulbs, Blue a/c control bulbs, Blue door markers and interior lights, Sony head unit, Chrome Lexus tax disc holder, TRD side skirts, Original Saloon Front Bumper re-fitted instead of Sportcross

[Image: Lf9Nl.jpg]

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
27-08-2016, 12:39 AM
#10
The OEM (Lexus) settings are rubbish for an unmodified car - poor handling and uneven tyre wear. The WIM settings will be much, much better, even for a standard car.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
27-08-2016, 12:39 AM #10

The OEM (Lexus) settings are rubbish for an unmodified car - poor handling and uneven tyre wear. The WIM settings will be much, much better, even for a standard car.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

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