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Tango
Senior Member
314
07-03-2018, 07:01 AM
#1
My car just failed it's very first MOT test :ohmy: Reason given was that front plate did not have black characters on a white background, and rear plate did not have black characters on a yellow background.

I thought buying my plates from a DVLA registered manufacturer would ensure they were legal but apparently not according to my local Lexus dealership. The plates have the domed carbon fibre lettering like this:

[Image: carbon.jpg]

Anyone else had a similar problem?

IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango
07-03-2018, 07:01 AM #1

My car just failed it's very first MOT test :ohmy: Reason given was that front plate did not have black characters on a white background, and rear plate did not have black characters on a yellow background.

I thought buying my plates from a DVLA registered manufacturer would ensure they were legal but apparently not according to my local Lexus dealership. The plates have the domed carbon fibre lettering like this:

[Image: carbon.jpg]

Anyone else had a similar problem?


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

is300_dino
Posting Freak
3,556
07-03-2018, 07:10 AM
#2
thats not good news at all terry, sorry to hear that, but those types of plates are in the eyes of the laws 'show plates only', ask back at the dealer you got the car from to supply the original road legal plates that should of come with the car and ask them to refund the MOT price for messing you around by supplying the car with the wrong type of plates, then just swap them back to the CF ones but keep the origainals in the boot in case plod try the trick at the side of the road. hope this helps.

jae 2010 best lexus category show and shine winner
jae 2010 ice outlaw award 2nd place
jae 2011 ice outlaw award 1st place
is300_dino
07-03-2018, 07:10 AM #2

thats not good news at all terry, sorry to hear that, but those types of plates are in the eyes of the laws 'show plates only', ask back at the dealer you got the car from to supply the original road legal plates that should of come with the car and ask them to refund the MOT price for messing you around by supplying the car with the wrong type of plates, then just swap them back to the CF ones but keep the origainals in the boot in case plod try the trick at the side of the road. hope this helps.


jae 2010 best lexus category show and shine winner
jae 2010 ice outlaw award 2nd place
jae 2011 ice outlaw award 1st place

Moley
Posting Freak
6,230
07-03-2018, 07:10 AM
#3
No but they do look good !!!!

Just put on another cheap set then put back on your good set once it passes the mot

They must be a bit **** for failing you for that

Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
Moley
07-03-2018, 07:10 AM #3

No but they do look good !!!!

Just put on another cheap set then put back on your good set once it passes the mot

They must be a bit **** for failing you for that


Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice

Dark Samurai
Posting Freak
4,957
07-03-2018, 07:25 AM
#4
Different type but same principal but:
My mum's MR2 went in the other day and failed for "front and rear registration plates likely to be misread"
Now, because hers has an Irish private plate on it, it goes XXI 153 (the first two digits covered by x's), and the tester was like "the 1 and the I look the same so it can be misread".
I just thought no because the 1 and I are the same, so we got a refund from them after speaking to VOSA and getting it confirmed, and went to somewhere else Smile

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Dark Samurai
07-03-2018, 07:25 AM #4

Different type but same principal but:
My mum's MR2 went in the other day and failed for "front and rear registration plates likely to be misread"
Now, because hers has an Irish private plate on it, it goes XXI 153 (the first two digits covered by x's), and the tester was like "the 1 and the I look the same so it can be misread".
I just thought no because the 1 and I are the same, so we got a refund from them after speaking to VOSA and getting it confirmed, and went to somewhere else Smile


Lexus IS300 Sportcross in Platinum Ice.
Click here for garage.

PSN ID: O3107 

Tango
Senior Member
314
07-03-2018, 08:00 AM
#5
is300_dino thats not good news at all terry, sorry to hear that, but those types of plates are in the eyes of the laws 'show plates only', ask back at the dealer you got the car from to supply the original road legal plates that should of come with the car and ask them to refund the MOT price for messing you around by supplying the car with the wrong type of plates, then just swap them back to the CF ones but keep the origainals in the boot in case plod try the trick at the side of the road. hope this helps.

I bought the car from the same dealership but have recently changed the registration to one starting with ''V8'' and bought the plates from Demon Plates.
TBH it wasn't a problem as the Service Manager made up a new set of plates for free and issued the pass without charging for a retest (how's that for service?). He then said he preferred the look of my plates and I drove off with his new plates in the boot :biggrin:
I've just read the latest British Standard and there's nothing prohibiting the slightly raised characters and it just states a requirement for 'black' characters, without specifying the shade of black, or for that matter prohibiting any pattern.
Edited 18-04-2011, 05:39 PM by Tango.

IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango
07-03-2018, 08:00 AM #5

is300_dino thats not good news at all terry, sorry to hear that, but those types of plates are in the eyes of the laws 'show plates only', ask back at the dealer you got the car from to supply the original road legal plates that should of come with the car and ask them to refund the MOT price for messing you around by supplying the car with the wrong type of plates, then just swap them back to the CF ones but keep the origainals in the boot in case plod try the trick at the side of the road. hope this helps.

I bought the car from the same dealership but have recently changed the registration to one starting with ''V8'' and bought the plates from Demon Plates.
TBH it wasn't a problem as the Service Manager made up a new set of plates for free and issued the pass without charging for a retest (how's that for service?). He then said he preferred the look of my plates and I drove off with his new plates in the boot :biggrin:
I've just read the latest British Standard and there's nothing prohibiting the slightly raised characters and it just states a requirement for 'black' characters, without specifying the shade of black, or for that matter prohibiting any pattern.


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

is300_dino
Posting Freak
3,556
07-03-2018, 08:06 AM
#6
at least it didnt work out all bad for you then mate some testers would of made you swap them there and then and then charged you as well so good result, just lucky you drive a nice car and the boss wanted to keep your car looking as good as it should.

jae 2010 best lexus category show and shine winner
jae 2010 ice outlaw award 2nd place
jae 2011 ice outlaw award 1st place
is300_dino
07-03-2018, 08:06 AM #6

at least it didnt work out all bad for you then mate some testers would of made you swap them there and then and then charged you as well so good result, just lucky you drive a nice car and the boss wanted to keep your car looking as good as it should.


jae 2010 best lexus category show and shine winner
jae 2010 ice outlaw award 2nd place
jae 2011 ice outlaw award 1st place

jimxms
Posting Freak
2,473
07-03-2018, 08:14 AM
#7
B*llocks mate. Carbon lettering is one of the very few 'custom' styles that are still legal IIRC.

EDIT: http://www.craigsplates.com/news/details...reor-is-it

Quote:It states '3D font MAY use grey edging OR a chequered carbon fiber effect, these and some other style characters ARE permissible providing font style is adheared to AND when viewed from approx 20 meters the characters appear predominantly black'.

"Game. Set. Match. Where's my pass certificate please, and a nice Lexus gift for messing me around"
Edited 18-04-2011, 05:56 PM by jimxms.
jimxms
07-03-2018, 08:14 AM #7

B*llocks mate. Carbon lettering is one of the very few 'custom' styles that are still legal IIRC.

EDIT: http://www.craigsplates.com/news/details...reor-is-it

Quote:It states '3D font MAY use grey edging OR a chequered carbon fiber effect, these and some other style characters ARE permissible providing font style is adheared to AND when viewed from approx 20 meters the characters appear predominantly black'.

"Game. Set. Match. Where's my pass certificate please, and a nice Lexus gift for messing me around"

Lexusboy
Posting Freak
9,267
07-03-2018, 08:18 AM
#8
Crazy just crazy.

I have to put my road plates in the boot when my car goes in for it mot.
My plates is classed as illegal due to the spacing of the letters but in no way are the letter trying to read any different to the way they should.

Ie xx xxx is the way they want them, mine show x x x x x

Do like your carbon look Terry
Lexusboy
07-03-2018, 08:18 AM #8

Crazy just crazy.

I have to put my road plates in the boot when my car goes in for it mot.
My plates is classed as illegal due to the spacing of the letters but in no way are the letter trying to read any different to the way they should.

Ie xx xxx is the way they want them, mine show x x x x x

Do like your carbon look Terry

Tango
Senior Member
314
07-03-2018, 08:34 AM
#9
jimxms B*llocks mate. Carbon lettering is one of the very few 'custom' styles that are still legal IIRC.

EDIT: http://www.craigsplates.com/news/details...reor-is-it



"Game. Set. Match. Where's my pass certificate please, and a nice Lexus gift for messing me around"

Well done that man Big Grin I couldn't find anything like that! Here's the link to the full explanation if anyone wants further clarification http://www.craigsplates.com/news/details...reor-is-it
Sending it to the Stealership right now,

IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Tango
07-03-2018, 08:34 AM #9

jimxms B*llocks mate. Carbon lettering is one of the very few 'custom' styles that are still legal IIRC.

EDIT: http://www.craigsplates.com/news/details...reor-is-it



"Game. Set. Match. Where's my pass certificate please, and a nice Lexus gift for messing me around"

Well done that man Big Grin I couldn't find anything like that! Here's the link to the full explanation if anyone wants further clarification http://www.craigsplates.com/news/details...reor-is-it
Sending it to the Stealership right now,


IS 200 Sport with a few mods, Standardish IS-F. The IS250 SE-L with a few mods has gone to a new home.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
07-03-2018, 08:38 AM
#10
Some people are just pathetic,

MOT testers should be required to show customers the rule that shows a failure IMHO, instead of what they interpret as the rule

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Sparkystav
07-03-2018, 08:38 AM #10

Some people are just pathetic,

MOT testers should be required to show customers the rule that shows a failure IMHO, instead of what they interpret as the rule


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