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Something's wrong

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parthiban
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4,925
18-08-2017, 10:08 AM
#1
About a mile away from home today my car started behaving really weirdly - every time I touched the throttle the traction control was set off, and when I braked (even quite gently) the ABS was coming on.

I was convinced I had a flat tyre, and from the way the car was behaving I was sure it was the left rear.

As I was so close just thought I'd nurse the car home and check it when I got back - so imagine my surprise to find all my tyres are fine! Worst part is the car felt awful, it did actually feel like I had no grip rather just malfunctioning TC or ABS..........

Does anyone know what could be wrong with my car? :confused1:

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
18-08-2017, 10:08 AM #1

About a mile away from home today my car started behaving really weirdly - every time I touched the throttle the traction control was set off, and when I braked (even quite gently) the ABS was coming on.

I was convinced I had a flat tyre, and from the way the car was behaving I was sure it was the left rear.

As I was so close just thought I'd nurse the car home and check it when I got back - so imagine my surprise to find all my tyres are fine! Worst part is the car felt awful, it did actually feel like I had no grip rather just malfunctioning TC or ABS..........

Does anyone know what could be wrong with my car? :confused1:


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

FirebirdPhil
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7,101
18-08-2017, 10:17 AM
#2
look underneath and see if your anti roll bar is still in place?

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FirebirdPhil
18-08-2017, 10:17 AM #2

look underneath and see if your anti roll bar is still in place?


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

Fry-Up
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891
18-08-2017, 10:22 AM
#3
Gord Check to see if you have oil on your tyres ?

incidentally if this is the case, whats the best way of cleaning them off?
Fry-Up
18-08-2017, 10:22 AM #3

Gord Check to see if you have oil on your tyres ?

incidentally if this is the case, whats the best way of cleaning them off?

parthiban
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18-08-2017, 10:35 AM
#4
Hmmm, I hadn't thought of oil - I had a feel over them to see if I'd worn the insides or something and it didn't feel greasy but I'll check again in daylight.

The other thing I'm wondering is could it possibly be a TC/ABS fault? If so what are the chances they would both fail at the same time, are they connected in some way? It kept feeling like the back end was trying to step out under braking but that isn't necessarily a lack of grip I suppose, it could be an uneven brake bias - is that plausible?

Bit worried, think I'll take it out for a quick spin in the morning, if it's still the same I'll have to get it towed to Lexus as I don't feel at all confident taking it up to any speed in its current state :Sulk:

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
18-08-2017, 10:35 AM #4

Hmmm, I hadn't thought of oil - I had a feel over them to see if I'd worn the insides or something and it didn't feel greasy but I'll check again in daylight.

The other thing I'm wondering is could it possibly be a TC/ABS fault? If so what are the chances they would both fail at the same time, are they connected in some way? It kept feeling like the back end was trying to step out under braking but that isn't necessarily a lack of grip I suppose, it could be an uneven brake bias - is that plausible?

Bit worried, think I'll take it out for a quick spin in the morning, if it's still the same I'll have to get it towed to Lexus as I don't feel at all confident taking it up to any speed in its current state :Sulk:


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Fozzy
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1,132
18-08-2017, 12:42 PM
#5
TC and ABS systems are interconnected. They both use the same sensors at the wheels. Chances are one of the sensors has gone dodgy, so the systems will be getting false readings. Im sure there will be a way of getting the error codes for the system. Someone more knowlegable than me should be able to shed some light

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Fozzy
18-08-2017, 12:42 PM #5

TC and ABS systems are interconnected. They both use the same sensors at the wheels. Chances are one of the sensors has gone dodgy, so the systems will be getting false readings. Im sure there will be a way of getting the error codes for the system. Someone more knowlegable than me should be able to shed some light


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parthiban
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18-08-2017, 12:57 PM
#6
Hurricane TC and ABS systems are interconnected. They both use the same sensors at the wheels. Chances are one of the sensors has gone dodgy, so the systems will be getting false readings. Im sure there will be a way of getting the error codes for the system. Someone more knowlegable than me should be able to shed some light

Right so that could be a possible explanation then - perhaps if the left rear sensor has failed it might make sense as to why it felt like the problems were in that corner.

If it is an electronic fault though, should I be getting some sort of warning light on the dash or would this type of fault not flag up anything?

I suppose this might be something to do with today being the first time the car's been out in any heavy rain in recent times as well........

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
18-08-2017, 12:57 PM #6

Hurricane TC and ABS systems are interconnected. They both use the same sensors at the wheels. Chances are one of the sensors has gone dodgy, so the systems will be getting false readings. Im sure there will be a way of getting the error codes for the system. Someone more knowlegable than me should be able to shed some light

Right so that could be a possible explanation then - perhaps if the left rear sensor has failed it might make sense as to why it felt like the problems were in that corner.

If it is an electronic fault though, should I be getting some sort of warning light on the dash or would this type of fault not flag up anything?

I suppose this might be something to do with today being the first time the car's been out in any heavy rain in recent times as well........


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Fry-Up
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891
18-08-2017, 01:49 PM
#7
parthiban If it is an electronic fault though, should I be getting some sort of warning light on the dash or would this type of fault not flag up anything?

IF the fault lies with the abs/trc system i imagine u may get an error light somewhere, but if its only the sensor thats faulty, u'd just get the systems kickin in when they shouldn't as they 'think' they need to, as they are still working, albeit based on info from the dodgy sensor
Fry-Up
18-08-2017, 01:49 PM #7

parthiban If it is an electronic fault though, should I be getting some sort of warning light on the dash or would this type of fault not flag up anything?

IF the fault lies with the abs/trc system i imagine u may get an error light somewhere, but if its only the sensor thats faulty, u'd just get the systems kickin in when they shouldn't as they 'think' they need to, as they are still working, albeit based on info from the dodgy sensor

Phil01
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2,004
18-08-2017, 08:51 PM
#8
I have known the sensor to be at fault, as you know it contains a magnet and this can attract rust/debris and as it is close fitting in the hub/boss can cause a false reading making the abs/trc light to flash and operate, all that is needed is a simple clean up of the sensor and housing and refit making sure the sensor is fitted correctly, using the other side as a comparison.

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Phil01
18-08-2017, 08:51 PM #8

I have known the sensor to be at fault, as you know it contains a magnet and this can attract rust/debris and as it is close fitting in the hub/boss can cause a false reading making the abs/trc light to flash and operate, all that is needed is a simple clean up of the sensor and housing and refit making sure the sensor is fitted correctly, using the other side as a comparison.


1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,

Phil01
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18-08-2017, 08:53 PM
#9
If I remember the guy with the nice red IS200 and whose dad has the same red IS200 suffered the same problem after he had done some suspension work on his car. cant remember his name.

1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
Phil01
18-08-2017, 08:53 PM #9

If I remember the guy with the nice red IS200 and whose dad has the same red IS200 suffered the same problem after he had done some suspension work on his car. cant remember his name.


1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,

SHAHZ
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18-08-2017, 09:09 PM
#10
Well remembered Phil, that would be John G..... Here you go mate, looks like your sensor has moved/become loose!

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SHAHZ
18-08-2017, 09:09 PM #10

Well remembered Phil, that would be John G..... Here you go mate, looks like your sensor has moved/become loose!


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