supercharged is200 you might want to look at this
supercharged is200 you might want to look at this
copied from the merc site
ended up getting a second eaton M62 s/c to play with... many guys get good results with porting of the eaton s/c's. gains of 10-15% with reduced IAT... you see some guys with cobras getting +40hp etc... well 10% of 400hp is 40hp.. even the guys on the mini cooper S's with the M45 get good gains ~20hp
while not expecting monster gains the goal is to reduce IAT's as the charger will be spinning faster and to reduce parasitic pumping losses
still work in progress but i can show you how much the outlet port has been opend up. thats pretty much the maximum it can go. its to match up exactly with the 120 degree timing of the rotors. the rotors edge is exactly parallel to the outlet port triangle.
the edges at the bottom which will be ground off and the bolts which go on the other side will be shortened. (not shown as yet)
pic of stock outline in green for comparison... ill post more pics as more work is done. inlet side is done very shocking casting processes from factory much can be improved here!
silencer holes can be plugged as these are a "boost leak" effectively and bleed boost back into the rotors to reduce sound. block these and the s/c will be crazy loud! not much performance gained from doing so and gain about 0.5psi boost.
once this is done its going to be time for a smaller s/c pulley. plan is to grind down the stock s/c pulley total 7mm to 87mm (stock is 94mm). this is the lowest you can go before you have to delete the s/c clutch and this will bring boost up to ~14psi (1bar) measured at the FPR.
of course more pix to come and results as things move along..... i want to sqeeze out every last HP i can!!
![[Image: 304300d1272107320t-home-port-job-eaton-m...utline.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/304300d1272107320t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-port_outline.jpg)
![[Image: 304301d1272107320t-home-port-job-eaton-m...tline2.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/304301d1272107320t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-port_outline2.jpg)
stock for comparision... & pic of another ported s/c for comparison
![[Image: 304305d1272108133t-home-port-job-eaton-m...er-005.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/304305d1272108133t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-ported-blower-005.jpg)
![[Image: 306217d1272973396t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-m62-4.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/306217d1272973396t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-m62-4.jpg)
![[Image: 306218d1272973396t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-m62-5.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/306218d1272973396t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-m62-5.jpg)
![[Image: 306219d1272974393t-home-port-job-eaton-m...ported.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/306219d1272974393t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-stock-vs-ported.jpg)
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just been having a look at what mods people do to the m62 eaton charger....you really need to check out the merc sites...
copied from the merc site
ended up getting a second eaton M62 s/c to play with... many guys get good results with porting of the eaton s/c's. gains of 10-15% with reduced IAT... you see some guys with cobras getting +40hp etc... well 10% of 400hp is 40hp.. even the guys on the mini cooper S's with the M45 get good gains ~20hp
while not expecting monster gains the goal is to reduce IAT's as the charger will be spinning faster and to reduce parasitic pumping losses
still work in progress but i can show you how much the outlet port has been opend up. thats pretty much the maximum it can go. its to match up exactly with the 120 degree timing of the rotors. the rotors edge is exactly parallel to the outlet port triangle.
the edges at the bottom which will be ground off and the bolts which go on the other side will be shortened. (not shown as yet)
pic of stock outline in green for comparison... ill post more pics as more work is done. inlet side is done very shocking casting processes from factory much can be improved here!
silencer holes can be plugged as these are a "boost leak" effectively and bleed boost back into the rotors to reduce sound. block these and the s/c will be crazy loud! not much performance gained from doing so and gain about 0.5psi boost.
once this is done its going to be time for a smaller s/c pulley. plan is to grind down the stock s/c pulley total 7mm to 87mm (stock is 94mm). this is the lowest you can go before you have to delete the s/c clutch and this will bring boost up to ~14psi (1bar) measured at the FPR.
of course more pix to come and results as things move along..... i want to sqeeze out every last HP i can!!
stock for comparision... & pic of another ported s/c for comparison
TTE supercharger,pr0lex manifold,hks fcd,larger intercooler,apexi induction kit,silicone hose kit,IK22's,polished engine parts,TTE front bumper mod'd for intercooler,TRD side skirts,TRD rear lip,JDM headlights and fogs,10k hid headlights 8k full beam,L8XSS p/plate,fog/brake/light conversion,18"fox rs's,lowered 90mm(f)100mm®,moleys under bars,yellow trd anti rollbars,full stainless exhaust,carbon fiber intake plus so much more
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So where dose the guy get the work done Ormi ? and when we going to get ours done ?
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
sprinter2012
11-07-2018, 01:13 PM #3Can't believe nobody has seen this before now! Surely that's gotta be a 'must have' mod for anyone with a charger!
![[Image: 326223d1282391378t-home-port-job-eaton-m...ge0239.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/326223d1282391378t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-image0239.jpg)
also just saw that you can machine the standard pulley down from 93 mm to 87mm
check out the pics
![[Image: 326391d1282473791t-home-port-job-eaton-m...age434.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/326391d1282473791t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-image434.jpg)
![[Image: 324882d1281760517t-home-port-job-eaton-m...ge0233.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/324882d1281760517t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-image0233.jpg)
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more pics..
also just saw that you can machine the standard pulley down from 93 mm to 87mm
check out the pics
TTE supercharger,pr0lex manifold,hks fcd,larger intercooler,apexi induction kit,silicone hose kit,IK22's,polished engine parts,TTE front bumper mod'd for intercooler,TRD side skirts,TRD rear lip,JDM headlights and fogs,10k hid headlights 8k full beam,L8XSS p/plate,fog/brake/light conversion,18"fox rs's,lowered 90mm(f)100mm®,moleys under bars,yellow trd anti rollbars,full stainless exhaust,carbon fiber intake plus so much more
Moley So where dose the guy get the work done Ormi ? and when we going to get ours done ?
eeeemmmmm he's in auz mate and does it himself but by looking at it a good machine shop should be able to do this and im defo going to look in to this....porting also runs the charger cooler!!!:thumbup1:
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Moley So where dose the guy get the work done Ormi ? and when we going to get ours done ?
eeeemmmmm he's in auz mate and does it himself but by looking at it a good machine shop should be able to do this and im defo going to look in to this....porting also runs the charger cooler!!!:thumbup1:
TTE supercharger,pr0lex manifold,hks fcd,larger intercooler,apexi induction kit,silicone hose kit,IK22's,polished engine parts,TTE front bumper mod'd for intercooler,TRD side skirts,TRD rear lip,JDM headlights and fogs,10k hid headlights 8k full beam,L8XSS p/plate,fog/brake/light conversion,18"fox rs's,lowered 90mm(f)100mm®,moleys under bars,yellow trd anti rollbars,full stainless exhaust,carbon fiber intake plus so much more
some pics & explanation of porting. note the exit port and rotors. there is a reason why it is a triangle - to match the rotors. also notice how the exit port (triangle is parallel to the rotor blade).
the reason it has to be exact is while the outlet is "discharging" air the inlet has to be SEALED. if its not it greatly reduces the s/c efficiency. ive taken some pics as you rotate the s/c to see the position of the inlet and outlet ports with the rotor blades to see what i mean....
the stock triangle is quite small and it does not provide exact 120 rotor timing - it is very conservative... why? well it wasnt designed from factory OEM to run higher boost (most stock applications are 5-7psi) and it has to meet strict noise requirements.
![[Image: 316042d1277539987t-home-port-job-eaton-m...llel_1.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/316042d1277539987t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-parallel_1.jpg)
![[Image: 316043d1277540027t-home-port-job-eaton-m...ation1.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/316043d1277540027t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-rotation1.jpg)
![[Image: 316044d1277540067t-home-port-job-eaton-m...ation2.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r170-slk-class/316044d1277540067t-home-port-job-eaton-m62-s-rotation2.jpg)
quick update...
ive found a shop which will do CNC machining on the pulley. dropped it off last week and should get it back in 1weeks time.
they said its no problems doing it. it will be ground down to the brabus s/c pulley specification. and all the brabus s/c pulley is, is an Mercedes modified OEM part.
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another update not that exiting but filled it up with oil. 110ml as per eatons specs.
some pics & explanation of porting. note the exit port and rotors. there is a reason why it is a triangle - to match the rotors. also notice how the exit port (triangle is parallel to the rotor blade).
the reason it has to be exact is while the outlet is "discharging" air the inlet has to be SEALED. if its not it greatly reduces the s/c efficiency. ive taken some pics as you rotate the s/c to see the position of the inlet and outlet ports with the rotor blades to see what i mean....
the stock triangle is quite small and it does not provide exact 120 rotor timing - it is very conservative... why? well it wasnt designed from factory OEM to run higher boost (most stock applications are 5-7psi) and it has to meet strict noise requirements.
quick update...
ive found a shop which will do CNC machining on the pulley. dropped it off last week and should get it back in 1weeks time.
they said its no problems doing it. it will be ground down to the brabus s/c pulley specification. and all the brabus s/c pulley is, is an Mercedes modified OEM part.
TTE supercharger,pr0lex manifold,hks fcd,larger intercooler,apexi induction kit,silicone hose kit,IK22's,polished engine parts,TTE front bumper mod'd for intercooler,TRD side skirts,TRD rear lip,JDM headlights and fogs,10k hid headlights 8k full beam,L8XSS p/plate,fog/brake/light conversion,18"fox rs's,lowered 90mm(f)100mm®,moleys under bars,yellow trd anti rollbars,full stainless exhaust,carbon fiber intake plus so much more
a ported s/c can be loud!
ive done a ton on research on porting and there is a reason why the inlet and outlet are the shapes they are. its for a relationship b/w the charge and discharge cycle. they are related. the factory setup doesnt do a 120degree (3 lobe 60degree helix rotors) timing perfectly. when it comes to discharging some of the air goes thru the rotors again being rotated 2-3 times more than it actualy should be = more heat. again this probably doesnt matter in low boost applications and in OE stock manafacture applications but it does matter if more boost is to be run.
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and info on porting and why
a ported s/c can be loud!
ive done a ton on research on porting and there is a reason why the inlet and outlet are the shapes they are. its for a relationship b/w the charge and discharge cycle. they are related. the factory setup doesnt do a 120degree (3 lobe 60degree helix rotors) timing perfectly. when it comes to discharging some of the air goes thru the rotors again being rotated 2-3 times more than it actualy should be = more heat. again this probably doesnt matter in low boost applications and in OE stock manafacture applications but it does matter if more boost is to be run.
TTE supercharger,pr0lex manifold,hks fcd,larger intercooler,apexi induction kit,silicone hose kit,IK22's,polished engine parts,TTE front bumper mod'd for intercooler,TRD side skirts,TRD rear lip,JDM headlights and fogs,10k hid headlights 8k full beam,L8XSS p/plate,fog/brake/light conversion,18"fox rs's,lowered 90mm(f)100mm®,moleys under bars,yellow trd anti rollbars,full stainless exhaust,carbon fiber intake plus so much more
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
Well if it works out Ormi then I think I'll discuss this with you to get mine done , well I need more power , what other mods would need to be done , injectors etc etc ?
Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
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none mate.....port polish fit and smile......best thing.......more charger noise and a slight increase in boost!!
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get a speed sensor from ebay for about £15 to check.
if running too fast the bearings could fail and then the rotors shift and you can throw the whole sc in the bin as the rotors chew the casing - it happened to me.
the stock pulley already means the sc runs at 14000 rpm which is the max design limit - be careful of the new speed as the bearings are also the limiting factor.
get a speed sensor from ebay for about £15 to check.
if running too fast the bearings could fail and then the rotors shift and you can throw the whole sc in the bin as the rotors chew the casing - it happened to me.
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