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toxo
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20-07-2018, 11:53 PM
Fuel pump resistor.

What do I win?
toxo
20-07-2018, 11:53 PM #231

Fuel pump resistor.

What do I win?

Dark Samurai
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20-07-2018, 11:57 PM
toxo Fuel pump resistor.

Exactly what my Dad said.

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Dark Samurai
20-07-2018, 11:57 PM #232

toxo Fuel pump resistor.

Exactly what my Dad said.


Lexus IS300 Sportcross in Platinum Ice.
Click here for garage.

PSN ID: O3107 

jimxms
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20-07-2018, 11:58 PM
toxo Fuel pump resistor.

What do I win?

Man knows his stuff. They probably don't fail often enough for most people to know what they are :p

You win...errr...a fuel pump resistor!
jimxms
20-07-2018, 11:58 PM #233

toxo Fuel pump resistor.

What do I win?

Man knows his stuff. They probably don't fail often enough for most people to know what they are :p

You win...errr...a fuel pump resistor!

is300_dino
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21-07-2018, 12:13 AM
so what does that mean by disconnecting it? whats it likely to do/not do?

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is300_dino
21-07-2018, 12:13 AM #234

so what does that mean by disconnecting it? whats it likely to do/not do?


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jae 2011 ice outlaw award 1st place

toxo
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21-07-2018, 12:18 AM
Toyota like fitting them on a relay which means the ECU can optionally cut the fuel pump voltage down to 9V by passing the current through the resistor rather than directly to the pump. This makes the fuel pump run slower so they can fit a larger pump, and turn it up to full when it's required (i.e. when you floor it), but it'll still maintain fuel efficiency when cruising.

If you remove it you have to connect the 2 wires together otherwise when the ECU tries to knock your fuel pump down to 9V it will have 0V instead Smile
toxo
21-07-2018, 12:18 AM #235

Toyota like fitting them on a relay which means the ECU can optionally cut the fuel pump voltage down to 9V by passing the current through the resistor rather than directly to the pump. This makes the fuel pump run slower so they can fit a larger pump, and turn it up to full when it's required (i.e. when you floor it), but it'll still maintain fuel efficiency when cruising.

If you remove it you have to connect the 2 wires together otherwise when the ECU tries to knock your fuel pump down to 9V it will have 0V instead Smile

jimxms
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21-07-2018, 12:26 AM
toxo Toyota like fitting them on a relay which means the ECU can optionally cut the fuel pump voltage down to 9V by passing the current through the resistor rather than directly to the pump. This makes the fuel pump run slower so they can fit a larger pump, and turn it up to full when it's required (i.e. when you floor it), but it'll still maintain fuel efficiency when cruising.

If you remove it you have to connect the 2 wires together otherwise when the ECU tries to knock your fuel pump down to 9V it will have 0V instead Smile

^ on the money.

The reason I removed mine was because my pump voltage was dropping to 7v when going through the resistor and my Walbro pump wasn't liking it very much.

I'm also trying to tackle an issue where my AFR's go 'randomly' rich when at idle. Now that I've got rid of the resistor my pump runs at a steady 13v and I think it looks like _maybe_ the pump is providing too much pressure for the car to compensate for..... which leads to the reason for me needing an OBD scanner which can read short term fuel trims.
jimxms
21-07-2018, 12:26 AM #236

toxo Toyota like fitting them on a relay which means the ECU can optionally cut the fuel pump voltage down to 9V by passing the current through the resistor rather than directly to the pump. This makes the fuel pump run slower so they can fit a larger pump, and turn it up to full when it's required (i.e. when you floor it), but it'll still maintain fuel efficiency when cruising.

If you remove it you have to connect the 2 wires together otherwise when the ECU tries to knock your fuel pump down to 9V it will have 0V instead Smile

^ on the money.

The reason I removed mine was because my pump voltage was dropping to 7v when going through the resistor and my Walbro pump wasn't liking it very much.

I'm also trying to tackle an issue where my AFR's go 'randomly' rich when at idle. Now that I've got rid of the resistor my pump runs at a steady 13v and I think it looks like _maybe_ the pump is providing too much pressure for the car to compensate for..... which leads to the reason for me needing an OBD scanner which can read short term fuel trims.

toxo
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21-07-2018, 12:35 AM
You're very rapidly moving into standalone ECU territory IMO!
toxo
21-07-2018, 12:35 AM #237

You're very rapidly moving into standalone ECU territory IMO!

jimxms
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2,473
21-07-2018, 12:59 AM
toxo You're very rapidly moving into standalone ECU territory IMO!

Yeah tell me about it.

Here's the weird thing though.....

At idle my AFR's would 'randomly' flick between 13.0 or 14.7. I noticed this was happening when the noise/pitch of the fuel pump would change. So after a bit of reading I removed the fuel pump resistor which now means that the pump stays at a constant voltage.

This has now nailed my idle AFR's at an _almost_ constant 13.0 APART from when the radiator fans come on and the AFR jumps back up to 14.7.

My reasoning (which may well be wrong) is that the pump is providing too much pressure at idle and the ECU is having trouble backing off the fuel trims enough to compensate for it. However as soon as the radiator fans come on (or indeed I turn any high power draw devices on), the current to the pump drops slightly and the car is able to bring the AFR's back into check.

The only way for me to check this for certain though is to get an OBD tool to read the short term fuel trims and see if they are maxed out (-25 I think?) or install a fuel pressure meter to see how much pressure the pump is pushing through.

If this is indeed the problem I assume the solution would be to either put a permanent resistor on the fuel pump to drop the voltage a tad, or go standalone which will allow me to pull more fuel away at idle?


Or I could just close my eyes at idle and pretend my AFR's are OK. 13.0 isn't toooo terrible, and the idle is still fairly smooth at this. The only thing is I randomly get a CEL for "bank x running too rich" which doesnt put me in limp, but is annoying neverless
Edited 01-09-2011, 10:35 AM by jimxms.
jimxms
21-07-2018, 12:59 AM #238

toxo You're very rapidly moving into standalone ECU territory IMO!

Yeah tell me about it.

Here's the weird thing though.....

At idle my AFR's would 'randomly' flick between 13.0 or 14.7. I noticed this was happening when the noise/pitch of the fuel pump would change. So after a bit of reading I removed the fuel pump resistor which now means that the pump stays at a constant voltage.

This has now nailed my idle AFR's at an _almost_ constant 13.0 APART from when the radiator fans come on and the AFR jumps back up to 14.7.

My reasoning (which may well be wrong) is that the pump is providing too much pressure at idle and the ECU is having trouble backing off the fuel trims enough to compensate for it. However as soon as the radiator fans come on (or indeed I turn any high power draw devices on), the current to the pump drops slightly and the car is able to bring the AFR's back into check.

The only way for me to check this for certain though is to get an OBD tool to read the short term fuel trims and see if they are maxed out (-25 I think?) or install a fuel pressure meter to see how much pressure the pump is pushing through.

If this is indeed the problem I assume the solution would be to either put a permanent resistor on the fuel pump to drop the voltage a tad, or go standalone which will allow me to pull more fuel away at idle?


Or I could just close my eyes at idle and pretend my AFR's are OK. 13.0 isn't toooo terrible, and the idle is still fairly smooth at this. The only thing is I randomly get a CEL for "bank x running too rich" which doesnt put me in limp, but is annoying neverless

jimxms
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2,473
22-07-2018, 01:36 AM
Annoyingly my radiator and lightweight pullies haven't arrived yet so I can only assume they are on some container ship sailing half way round the world.

But I cant wait any longer to get boosting again, so this weekend I think I'm going to put the new charger on the car and see if I can come close to hitting 1bar with my new setup.
jimxms
22-07-2018, 01:36 AM #239

Annoyingly my radiator and lightweight pullies haven't arrived yet so I can only assume they are on some container ship sailing half way round the world.

But I cant wait any longer to get boosting again, so this weekend I think I'm going to put the new charger on the car and see if I can come close to hitting 1bar with my new setup.

speedfreek
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22-07-2018, 05:15 AM
jimxms Annoyingly my radiator and lightweight pullies haven't arrived yet so I can only assume they are on some container ship sailing half way round the world.

But I cant wait any longer to get boosting again, so this weekend I think I'm going to put the new charger on the car and see if I can come close to hitting 1bar with my new setup.

Seriously mate, stop posting on this thread.

It makes me jealous and I don't like it :laugh:

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speedfreek
22-07-2018, 05:15 AM #240

jimxms Annoyingly my radiator and lightweight pullies haven't arrived yet so I can only assume they are on some container ship sailing half way round the world.

But I cant wait any longer to get boosting again, so this weekend I think I'm going to put the new charger on the car and see if I can come close to hitting 1bar with my new setup.

Seriously mate, stop posting on this thread.

It makes me jealous and I don't like it :laugh:


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