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Calling all Lexus techs, I need your help!

Calling all Lexus techs, I need your help!

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sprinter2012
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04-09-2018, 01:29 PM
#11
I'll definitely give the pins a check at work tomorrow, well done on finding the resistance figures!

There's one on eBay at the moment with less than a day to go sat at £30 with no bids. So I might buy that anyway, even if it's only so I can clean up the body of it while it's off the car and just swap them over instead of having the car sat without one fitted while I'm cleaning it.

EDIT: What and where is this cover plate you speak of? And where is the motor, I'm confused about which parts of the TB are motorised, and which bits are just sensors :confused:
Edited 16-10-2011, 11:06 PM by sprinter2012.
sprinter2012
04-09-2018, 01:29 PM #11

I'll definitely give the pins a check at work tomorrow, well done on finding the resistance figures!

There's one on eBay at the moment with less than a day to go sat at £30 with no bids. So I might buy that anyway, even if it's only so I can clean up the body of it while it's off the car and just swap them over instead of having the car sat without one fitted while I'm cleaning it.

EDIT: What and where is this cover plate you speak of? And where is the motor, I'm confused about which parts of the TB are motorised, and which bits are just sensors :confused:

Stoney
Posting Freak
2,117
04-09-2018, 01:50 PM
#12
Talisker Hope this helps.
It's a real shame the bahamut cars workshop manual doesn't seem to be online anymore.

Are you sure? I was on it last week. It will not work in some browsers. Internet Explorer is safest, but Firefox should work too.

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[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:
Stoney
04-09-2018, 01:50 PM #12

Talisker Hope this helps.
It's a real shame the bahamut cars workshop manual doesn't seem to be online anymore.

Are you sure? I was on it last week. It will not work in some browsers. Internet Explorer is safest, but Firefox should work too.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk


[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
04-09-2018, 01:58 PM
#13
Stoney Are you sure? I was on it last week. It will not work in some browsers. Internet Explorer is safest, but Firefox should work too.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

Just checked the manual at the following link...

http://bahamutcars.free.fr/workshop/IS_9...index.html

I've just tried it with Chrome, Firefox and IE and it only works with IE for some reason.

So they are infact still online luckily Smile
sprinter2012
04-09-2018, 01:58 PM #13

Stoney Are you sure? I was on it last week. It will not work in some browsers. Internet Explorer is safest, but Firefox should work too.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

Just checked the manual at the following link...

http://bahamutcars.free.fr/workshop/IS_9...index.html

I've just tried it with Chrome, Firefox and IE and it only works with IE for some reason.

So they are infact still online luckily Smile

DaveEdin
Posting Freak
5,657
04-09-2018, 02:21 PM
#14
sprinter2012 Just checked the manual at the following link...

http://bahamutcars.free.fr/workshop/IS_9...index.html

I've just tried it with Chrome, Firefox and IE and it only works with IE for some reason.

So they are infact still online luckily Smile

Really? I can view it in Firefox our IE, and also from my phone, but it's a bit iffy on the phone...

IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake
DaveEdin
04-09-2018, 02:21 PM #14

sprinter2012 Just checked the manual at the following link...

http://bahamutcars.free.fr/workshop/IS_9...index.html

I've just tried it with Chrome, Firefox and IE and it only works with IE for some reason.

So they are infact still online luckily Smile

Really? I can view it in Firefox our IE, and also from my phone, but it's a bit iffy on the phone...


IS200 Sport - Sold
Mazda 6 MPS - Zoom Zoom!

Modifications
Completed:

Currently 280bhp/295lbft; 3" Meercat custom exhaust; KW Suspension; FMIC; SSP; HPFP; Custom Stainless Steel Dials - for the moment, the only set in the world!! (Till the group buy for MPSOC anyway :lol: )

In Progress:

E-Tuning remap ongoing via Cobb Accessport; Braided brake lines; Stubby aerial; Tinted repeaters and sidelights; 3 Port Boost Control Solenoid; 3" HTP Intake

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
04-09-2018, 02:26 PM
#15
This is the page on the throttle body from the workshop manual...

[Image: throttlebody.jpg]

Now from reading that, it points to a bit called the 'limp mode lever' which is attached to the inner wheel on the same part of the TB that the throttle cable attaches to.

The manual states that this is just a mechanical override so the car doesn't become inoperable if the electronic side of things fails.

However the wheel with the 'limp mode lever' is moving just as much as the rest of it on mine, albeit with a slight delay. (as you can see in the video I uploaded) So I don't know whether the electrics have infact failed already and it's just controlling it with the limp mode thing all the time perhaps?
sprinter2012
04-09-2018, 02:26 PM #15

This is the page on the throttle body from the workshop manual...

[Image: throttlebody.jpg]

Now from reading that, it points to a bit called the 'limp mode lever' which is attached to the inner wheel on the same part of the TB that the throttle cable attaches to.

The manual states that this is just a mechanical override so the car doesn't become inoperable if the electronic side of things fails.

However the wheel with the 'limp mode lever' is moving just as much as the rest of it on mine, albeit with a slight delay. (as you can see in the video I uploaded) So I don't know whether the electrics have infact failed already and it's just controlling it with the limp mode thing all the time perhaps?

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
05-09-2018, 05:02 AM
#16
Talisker I'd take the plug off the throttle position sensor and do a resistance check with a multimeter across the outer most pins.
According to the workshop manual you should be getting 1.25-2.35 KiloOhms @ 20degrees C. If you don't get that then the sensor needs replacing.

Just had a go at measuring the resistance, kinda hard because of the way the sensor faces. The multimeter didn't even blink, so I think that means there's no resistance at all (i.e. no link between the terminals at all) Better get a price for a new sensor.
sprinter2012
05-09-2018, 05:02 AM #16

Talisker I'd take the plug off the throttle position sensor and do a resistance check with a multimeter across the outer most pins.
According to the workshop manual you should be getting 1.25-2.35 KiloOhms @ 20degrees C. If you don't get that then the sensor needs replacing.

Just had a go at measuring the resistance, kinda hard because of the way the sensor faces. The multimeter didn't even blink, so I think that means there's no resistance at all (i.e. no link between the terminals at all) Better get a price for a new sensor.

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
05-09-2018, 07:33 AM
#17
Marsdendean Are you sure you have measured it correctly. I know my multimeter is a pita and has tons of settings. .

Multimeter was on the 'up to 20KiloOhms' setting. next one down only went up to 2KiloOhms so would have been high enough.

But based on the constant buzzing noise the sensor makes I'd be inclined to believe my multimeter. lol

EDIT: ...next one down only went up to 2KiloOhms so wouldn't have been high enough.
Edited 17-10-2011, 05:19 PM by sprinter2012.
sprinter2012
05-09-2018, 07:33 AM #17

Marsdendean Are you sure you have measured it correctly. I know my multimeter is a pita and has tons of settings. .

Multimeter was on the 'up to 20KiloOhms' setting. next one down only went up to 2KiloOhms so would have been high enough.

But based on the constant buzzing noise the sensor makes I'd be inclined to believe my multimeter. lol

EDIT: ...next one down only went up to 2KiloOhms so wouldn't have been high enough.

Phil01
Posting Freak
2,004
05-09-2018, 07:37 AM
#18
was the meter showing open circuit (infinity) or continuity?

1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
Phil01
05-09-2018, 07:37 AM #18

was the meter showing open circuit (infinity) or continuity?


1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
05-09-2018, 07:43 AM
#19
It was showing an open circuit. Default figure for the multimeter to display if no connection is detected is '1' which is what it showed.

Just called Toyota who gave me a price of £102 for the sensor.

So I rushed onto eBay and paid £30 for a whole throttle body which ended at 7 past 5 Smile
sprinter2012
05-09-2018, 07:43 AM #19

It was showing an open circuit. Default figure for the multimeter to display if no connection is detected is '1' which is what it showed.

Just called Toyota who gave me a price of £102 for the sensor.

So I rushed onto eBay and paid £30 for a whole throttle body which ended at 7 past 5 Smile

Phil01
Posting Freak
2,004
05-09-2018, 07:57 AM
#20
result on that ebay item

1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,
Phil01
05-09-2018, 07:57 AM #20

result on that ebay item


1990 Eunos Roadster in Mariner DU blue
Cobalt cat back, Decat pipe, 15in Red Rota GT3 alloys, Toyo tyres, Lowered on Coil overs, Red anti roll bars, 14degree timing mod, white dash kit, illuminated side marker lights,
Halo ring headlights, OEM windblocker, Bluetooth streaming HU, Blue leather handbrake and gear lever gaitor, Centre brake/tail light mod, Blue velour door cards, Polished cam cover, Polished front strut bar, 4xheadrest speakers, JDM floor mats, Suede semi dish steering wheel,

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