Horrendous crash
Horrendous crash
Keith
Parthiban......wasn't taking it as criticising mate, far from it, just felt the need to try and explain what is going on from our side. I understand that the onlooker would be wondering what was going on and questioning why an incident was so protracted.
Keith
Cous3 Parthiban......wasn't taking it as criticising mate, far from it, just felt the need to try and explain what is going on from our side. I understand that the onlooker would be wondering what was going on and questioning why an incident was so protracted.No probs mate, it was good to hear an explanation as it is hard to watch from the sidelines in a situation like that.
Keith
As he was still breathing when I got on the scene, I assumed he still was when they got him out and then took him off to the air ambulance........but was reading in my local paper that he was pronounced dead on the scene as soon as he was taken out of the vehicle........
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Cous3 Parthiban......wasn't taking it as criticising mate, far from it, just felt the need to try and explain what is going on from our side. I understand that the onlooker would be wondering what was going on and questioning why an incident was so protracted.No probs mate, it was good to hear an explanation as it is hard to watch from the sidelines in a situation like that.
Keith
As he was still breathing when I got on the scene, I assumed he still was when they got him out and then took him off to the air ambulance........but was reading in my local paper that he was pronounced dead on the scene as soon as he was taken out of the vehicle........
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Other things come into play as well, a car/van hitting a lorry/bus/truck obviuosly isn't going to come off to well. Head on collisions are often worse than a side impact (but not always). Speed is again obviously high on the list too, and also if seatbelts were worn.
The delay in getting the casulity out may also have been because of his demise. I can't say 100%, but in similar instances I've attended, if they are pronounced dead on scene by a medically qualified doctor, then it would become a crime scene. Worth mentioning here is that we, the fie crews, whilst being trained in IEC (Immediate Emergency Care) can not pronounce a casualty as dead, even if it's obvious, because we are not medically qualified to do so. If it was declared a crime scene then photos may need to be taken etc before removal. I have had instances where we have attended an incident, found the casualty dead on scene pronounced by a doctor, then had to leave the scene for a few hours so evidence can be collected by the police, then go back and extricate bodies later. Again this is all stuff that goes on that members of the public may not know about, and I must point out is NOT always the case, as I've said every incident, fatal or not, is treated differently. This is just a small insight into what goes on and why.
Keith
Man that's tough, but not rare, especially in a collision such as you've described. Most cars (but not all) are built to high standards, the likes of Lexus, BMW, Merc, Volvo, Ford, Audi etc have put life saving equipment high on the list when producing cars for a few years now. Remember the pic over at LOC of I think it was an Audi broke in two when it side swiped a tree.......and in the pic the driver was standing next to it!!...Unreal, but such is the level of protection in a high end of the market car. Unfortunately this level is pretty basic in the lower end of the market.
Other things come into play as well, a car/van hitting a lorry/bus/truck obviuosly isn't going to come off to well. Head on collisions are often worse than a side impact (but not always). Speed is again obviously high on the list too, and also if seatbelts were worn.
The delay in getting the casulity out may also have been because of his demise. I can't say 100%, but in similar instances I've attended, if they are pronounced dead on scene by a medically qualified doctor, then it would become a crime scene. Worth mentioning here is that we, the fie crews, whilst being trained in IEC (Immediate Emergency Care) can not pronounce a casualty as dead, even if it's obvious, because we are not medically qualified to do so. If it was declared a crime scene then photos may need to be taken etc before removal. I have had instances where we have attended an incident, found the casualty dead on scene pronounced by a doctor, then had to leave the scene for a few hours so evidence can be collected by the police, then go back and extricate bodies later. Again this is all stuff that goes on that members of the public may not know about, and I must point out is NOT always the case, as I've said every incident, fatal or not, is treated differently. This is just a small insight into what goes on and why.
Keith
The level of dash intrusion was scary, the steering wheel hadn't come out too far but the right side of the dash was pressed right up against his waist - and despite the fact he looked reasonably unharmed on the outside, it must have caused some severe internal injuries.
They only pronounced him dead after they got him out of the car - they were using the paddles on him after they got him on a stretcher. At this point I actually left as I wasn't at all comfortable watching that and thought they'd just rush him off to the air ambulance soon after.........sadly that wasn't the case it seems.
They definitely weren't treating it as a crime scene at all, and the primary focus of everyone involved was to get him out of the car asap which makes me think he probably was still conscious (even if only just) until they got him out.
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It was a VW Sharan so not a bad car, and all the airbags and curtain airbags had done their job pretty well - I think the first problem was that the impact with a truck meant that it was higher than all the car's crash protection and that meant it didn't provide as much resistance.
The level of dash intrusion was scary, the steering wheel hadn't come out too far but the right side of the dash was pressed right up against his waist - and despite the fact he looked reasonably unharmed on the outside, it must have caused some severe internal injuries.
They only pronounced him dead after they got him out of the car - they were using the paddles on him after they got him on a stretcher. At this point I actually left as I wasn't at all comfortable watching that and thought they'd just rush him off to the air ambulance soon after.........sadly that wasn't the case it seems.
They definitely weren't treating it as a crime scene at all, and the primary focus of everyone involved was to get him out of the car asap which makes me think he probably was still conscious (even if only just) until they got him out.
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