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Calculate Supercharger Boost Pressure

Calculate Supercharger Boost Pressure

dimis
Posting Freak
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04-06-2016, 03:01 AM
#1
I read many posts regarding the boost pressure that the TTE supercharger and the engine motor of the IS200 can handle and my conclusion was that maby owners that were interested to increase the boost of their supercharger were not certain what is the actual boost pressure depending the diameter of the crank pulley. So I decided to do some research regarding the crank shaft pulley that can be fitted on the IS200 motor in order to increase the boost pressure of the TTE supercharger.

Firstly I found the specifications of the Eaton M62 supercharger, which are the following:

Eaton M62:

Displacement: 1.035 liters = 1035cc
Max. Outlet Pressure: 2.0 Bar
Max Speed Cont (inst.): 14,000 (16,000)
Flow at Max. Speed @ 1.8 Bar: 810 cubic meters / hour.

Then I did some research and dug out my old university books to find out how to calculate the boost pressure.

Lexus IS200 engine:

Engine max rpm: 7250
TTE crank pulley dia.: 130mm
Eaton Supercharger pulley dia.: 100mm

Ratio: 130/100= 1.3

From the Eaton specs I have mentioned above the M62 flows 1035cc per crank turn. Therefore we have,

1035cc x 1.3 = 1345.5cc per crank turn

1345.5 - 999 (1/2 engine cc) = Extra flow of 346.5cc per crank turn
346.5/999 = 0.35 bar

At max engine rpm the max speed of supercharger is: 1.3 x 7250 = 9425 rpm

If we repeat the above procedure for a larger crank pulley, ie. dia. = 140mm the boost pressure will be 0.45bar and the max speed of the supercharger will be 10150 rpm and so on.

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dimis
04-06-2016, 03:01 AM #1

I read many posts regarding the boost pressure that the TTE supercharger and the engine motor of the IS200 can handle and my conclusion was that maby owners that were interested to increase the boost of their supercharger were not certain what is the actual boost pressure depending the diameter of the crank pulley. So I decided to do some research regarding the crank shaft pulley that can be fitted on the IS200 motor in order to increase the boost pressure of the TTE supercharger.

Firstly I found the specifications of the Eaton M62 supercharger, which are the following:

Eaton M62:

Displacement: 1.035 liters = 1035cc
Max. Outlet Pressure: 2.0 Bar
Max Speed Cont (inst.): 14,000 (16,000)
Flow at Max. Speed @ 1.8 Bar: 810 cubic meters / hour.

Then I did some research and dug out my old university books to find out how to calculate the boost pressure.

Lexus IS200 engine:

Engine max rpm: 7250
TTE crank pulley dia.: 130mm
Eaton Supercharger pulley dia.: 100mm

Ratio: 130/100= 1.3

From the Eaton specs I have mentioned above the M62 flows 1035cc per crank turn. Therefore we have,

1035cc x 1.3 = 1345.5cc per crank turn

1345.5 - 999 (1/2 engine cc) = Extra flow of 346.5cc per crank turn
346.5/999 = 0.35 bar

At max engine rpm the max speed of supercharger is: 1.3 x 7250 = 9425 rpm

If we repeat the above procedure for a larger crank pulley, ie. dia. = 140mm the boost pressure will be 0.45bar and the max speed of the supercharger will be 10150 rpm and so on.


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dimis
Posting Freak
3,795
04-06-2016, 03:08 AM
#2
I just realised that the IS200 does not rev up to 7250rpm:biggrin: but up to 6250rpm. so at the max engine rpm the max speed of supercharger is: 1.3 x 6250 = 8125 rpm

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dimis
04-06-2016, 03:08 AM #2

I just realised that the IS200 does not rev up to 7250rpm:biggrin: but up to 6250rpm. so at the max engine rpm the max speed of supercharger is: 1.3 x 6250 = 8125 rpm


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Bandit
Posting Freak
6,464
04-06-2016, 03:16 AM
#3
Was just going to say that i thought it was 6250rpm on the is200 engine Smile

With the bigger pully fitted, do you have an idea on how much more power you would get? Smile

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Bandit
04-06-2016, 03:16 AM #3

Was just going to say that i thought it was 6250rpm on the is200 engine Smile

With the bigger pully fitted, do you have an idea on how much more power you would get? Smile


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dimis
Posting Freak
3,795
04-06-2016, 03:34 AM
#4
Not yet mate, I need to do some more calculations to figure out the power output. I will let you know soon

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dimis
04-06-2016, 03:34 AM #4

Not yet mate, I need to do some more calculations to figure out the power output. I will let you know soon


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Bandit
Posting Freak
6,464
04-06-2016, 03:46 AM
#5
Cool, was just interested Smile won't help on my skyline though :biggrin:

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Bandit
04-06-2016, 03:46 AM #5

Cool, was just interested Smile won't help on my skyline though :biggrin:


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Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
04-06-2016, 05:38 AM
#6
Hmm, but the pully doesnt connect straight to the crank. It connects to the water pump?

And so you need to work out the ratio from the crank pully to the water pulley first?

Stav

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Sparkystav
04-06-2016, 05:38 AM #6

Hmm, but the pully doesnt connect straight to the crank. It connects to the water pump?

And so you need to work out the ratio from the crank pully to the water pulley first?

Stav


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rob
Senior Member
720
04-06-2016, 06:28 AM
#7
My post on *** from earlier this afternoon:

the supercharger is not directly driven by the crank pulley so your calculations dont mean anything unfortunatly!

have a look under the bonnet and you will clearly see it is driven by the waterpump and due to the various pulleys involved the water pump SC drive pulley rpm is totally different to crank rpm.

It has been shown that the pulley mounted on the SC reaches 10,300 rpm at max engine rpm so your figure of 8125 rpm is incorrect. it is also worth noting that as the pulley on the front of the SC does not directly drive the lobes of the SC but thru a set of gears, the rpm of the front mounted pulley may be different to the actual rotation of the lobes unless it has a 1:1 gear ratio - i have no inclination to check this.

If you contact patrik lindholm he may kindly measure the speed of the SC waterpump drive pulley for you and that will give you at least a solid starting point but that then leaves the question about the gear ratio on the SC itself.
rob
04-06-2016, 06:28 AM #7

My post on *** from earlier this afternoon:

the supercharger is not directly driven by the crank pulley so your calculations dont mean anything unfortunatly!

have a look under the bonnet and you will clearly see it is driven by the waterpump and due to the various pulleys involved the water pump SC drive pulley rpm is totally different to crank rpm.

It has been shown that the pulley mounted on the SC reaches 10,300 rpm at max engine rpm so your figure of 8125 rpm is incorrect. it is also worth noting that as the pulley on the front of the SC does not directly drive the lobes of the SC but thru a set of gears, the rpm of the front mounted pulley may be different to the actual rotation of the lobes unless it has a 1:1 gear ratio - i have no inclination to check this.

If you contact patrik lindholm he may kindly measure the speed of the SC waterpump drive pulley for you and that will give you at least a solid starting point but that then leaves the question about the gear ratio on the SC itself.

dimis
Posting Freak
3,795
04-06-2016, 07:12 AM
#8
Well you might be right mate, to tell you the truth i thought the pulley was fitted on the crank. I could not check that today since i am offshore. All the calculations have been done from the information i gathered from the net.

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dimis
04-06-2016, 07:12 AM #8

Well you might be right mate, to tell you the truth i thought the pulley was fitted on the crank. I could not check that today since i am offshore. All the calculations have been done from the information i gathered from the net.


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