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Cheap Ebay stainless exhausts for an IS200....

Cheap Ebay stainless exhausts for an IS200....

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toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
07-07-2019, 02:07 PM
#21
Says the woman with the satnav that lasts 30 seconds!
toxo
07-07-2019, 02:07 PM #21

Says the woman with the satnav that lasts 30 seconds!

purplewitch
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07-07-2019, 02:11 PM
#22
I had a whole troop of experienced Outlaws on hand that day.. who supposedly had been there loads of times before :p lol... and I had the charger .. I just forgot to tell you that bit Smile

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purplewitch
07-07-2019, 02:11 PM #22

I had a whole troop of experienced Outlaws on hand that day.. who supposedly had been there loads of times before :p lol... and I had the charger .. I just forgot to tell you that bit Smile


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Mr Reman
Senior Member
250
07-07-2019, 10:13 PM
#23
purplewitch Oh .. And that battery dead/ forgot phone thing ... Most girls plan better :p

We must know very different types of girl then!
Most of the women I know have heard of "Planning" as a character trait, But after careful consideration decided that "Ditsy" is a much funner way of life......... Anyway, back on track.

HEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone know if I'm likely to get the rear lambda out with a 22mm open ended spanner?

I want to fit my exhaust today but I need to know if I'm going to be able to plod on without a split socket, or if I need to go hunting the the shops for one.

Scotty B.
Mr Reman
07-07-2019, 10:13 PM #23

purplewitch Oh .. And that battery dead/ forgot phone thing ... Most girls plan better :p

We must know very different types of girl then!
Most of the women I know have heard of "Planning" as a character trait, But after careful consideration decided that "Ditsy" is a much funner way of life......... Anyway, back on track.

HEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone know if I'm likely to get the rear lambda out with a 22mm open ended spanner?

I want to fit my exhaust today but I need to know if I'm going to be able to plod on without a split socket, or if I need to go hunting the the shops for one.

Scotty B.

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
07-07-2019, 10:33 PM
#24
A spanner should do. But a lot of forced and some wd will help.

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Sparkystav
07-07-2019, 10:33 PM #24

A spanner should do. But a lot of forced and some wd will help.


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toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
08-07-2019, 12:07 AM
#25
yeah plenty of release agent, be it plusgas or wd. i'd let it soak for a while too. i took all 4 o2 sensors out of mine without a lambda socket
toxo
08-07-2019, 12:07 AM #25

yeah plenty of release agent, be it plusgas or wd. i'd let it soak for a while too. i took all 4 o2 sensors out of mine without a lambda socket

Mr Reman
Senior Member
250
08-07-2019, 10:12 AM
#26
OK, I cheated (More of that later).

I won an auction for one of the cheapo Ebay catback systems last weekend and it arrived on Tuesday. First thing that I thought strange was the box.......
[Image: 1%20Box.jpg]
Right? If this is a Chinese copy of the Japspeed system then they've got some real balls when it comes to the labling......
[Image: 2%20Label.jpg]
OK then, I'm thinking that we all know about the lack of copyright laws in China so it's possible that they coped the box design too. Well, That don't matter, It's whats IN the box that I'm paying for......... So let's pull it all out and have a look !
[Image: 3%20In%20the%20box.jpg]
First impression is that it's a reasonably well made piece of kit. The welds look solid and the finish is pretty much flawless. By the weight of the system it feels like it's been made from a reasonable gauge of stainless too........ But what's that on the end of the centre pipe?
[Image: 4%20Lambda%20boss.jpg]
Oddness?!?!
The listing had a line in it that said "PLEASE NOTE THIS EXHAUST SYSTEM DOES NOT INCLUDE SENSOR FITTING". Strange? That looks just like a "sensor fitting" to me......

And what's that etching around the exhaust tip?
[Image: 5%20tail%20piece.jpg]
Riiiiiiiight. OK, It seems that what I've bought is either a direct copy in the most exact sense of the word, Or they've accidentally sent me a genuine Japspeed system?!?! Should I complain? :whistling:

When I ordered it I didn't think about how big a 4.5" tail pipe would actually be, Now I see it in the metal it looks fu**in' huge ! Confusedhock:

Here's the cheating part.
I was all up for fitting this myself today. I'd been checking the weather reports for Saturday all week and it was constantly saying it would be sunny......... But when I got up at 7 this morning it was a dull day that looked like rain was iminant..... (BU66ER !!!!!)

So, I did what any red blooded male (Who doesn't want to get rained on) with a new exhaust to fit would do and went off to a friends garage to see if I could scrounge some ramp time today. Unfortunately his appointment book was rammed solid so it wasn't possible. (DOUBLE BU66ER !!!!!)

Then I went to a local tire fitting place (Where I get on well with the bloke in charge) to see if I could borrow his ramp or some dry floor for 30 to 45 minutes. Turns out that he's transfered to another branch 9 miles away and the sprog that runs it now wanted 40 notes (+vat) and he wanted to fit it himself. (TRIPLE BU66ER WITH A SIDE ORDER OF BOL0CKS !!!!!!)

As I started to realise that I wasn't going to be able to blag some dry space to fit this thing today I thought I might as well bite the bullet and pay to have it done.

Trouble is, I'm a bit picky with who gets to wave spanners at my cars. Because I've had more bad than good experiences with the big "Quick S**t" type chains I don't trust many mechanics, So I decided to go to one I DO trust....... Who now works 9 miles away!

He was a bit surprised to see me roll up but after I explained that when it came to me car I didn't trust his replacement as far as I could repeatedly hit him with a cricket bat (With 6" nails driven through it!!!) he agreed to get my car in quickly while no one was looking. Happy days!

He said the fit wasn't bad at all and it pretty much lined up as it should...... Except the lambda boss. It seems that if you look at the 4th picture in this post (The one of the centre pipes end) the boss should have been fitted about another 10mm around to the right. The flange is fixed so it can't be adjusted at all. This mean that the wired end of the lambda is now sort of down in line with the lowest part of that pipe. It's not the lowest part of the car in that area, But it's still a little worrying to know that the end of an expensive component is now about an inch and a bit closer to anything that might rattle under my car (Coke cans, large stones or bit's of flat badger). If I worry to much I might invest in one of those right angle lambda fooling mini catalyst things to move it out the way a bit.

Now for the important bit....
Once it was fitted I started her up. It sounded quite nice, A little louder than standard, But not excessively...... So out came the tail pipe bung!
That's more like it !! I reckon I can now set off car alarms at 40 paces ! Big Grin


In my opinion the tail pipe sticks out a touch too far though......
[Image: 6%20Fitted%20looking%20down.jpg]
Trouble is that I can't see a way to alter that without taking an angle grinder to the tip. Not sure if the MOTer's going to be happy with it at the moment as it's straight cut "Pastry cutter" tip is about 1.5" beyond the surrounding bumper. I know that on an SVA test it would be an instant fail for this, but for the MOT I think it might just be down to how he's feeling on the day. Huh

Last picture......
[Image: 7%20Fitted%20rear%20view.jpg]
In my opinion it might be a touch low at the back. I had a prod about when she was still on the ramp and it looks like I could tweak the rear mounts a little to lift it up another inch or so without having any clearance issues around the rear suspension, So that'll be something to do when I have her jacked up next time.

All in all I think it was worth the money. I can hear the exhaust note so I'll now have a clue as to when my speeds slowly increased on the motorway (My only gripe with my IS200 is that it was TOO quiet at speed. On the motorway the only difference between 70 and 120 was that everyone else seemed to be dawdling....... First thing I did in it was to get caught doing an unintentional 58 in a 50 zone and was sent on a speed awareness course. :whistlingSmile. Without the tail pipe bung it feels just a tiny bit TOO loud for me, But that might just be because I'm not used to hearing the exhaust note in this thing. Worst case scenario is that I refit the bung (But I might paint it matt black first as it looks bl**dy awful in there. ConfusedadSmile....... We'll see.

Anyway, Thanks go out to everyone who's offered me useful info on this one (And Purplewitch. :whistling:........Big Grin).

All I really want to do now is get a 3D geometry check done and drive it for a bit.

Sorted !!!

Scotty B.
Mr Reman
08-07-2019, 10:12 AM #26

OK, I cheated (More of that later).

I won an auction for one of the cheapo Ebay catback systems last weekend and it arrived on Tuesday. First thing that I thought strange was the box.......
[Image: 1%20Box.jpg]
Right? If this is a Chinese copy of the Japspeed system then they've got some real balls when it comes to the labling......
[Image: 2%20Label.jpg]
OK then, I'm thinking that we all know about the lack of copyright laws in China so it's possible that they coped the box design too. Well, That don't matter, It's whats IN the box that I'm paying for......... So let's pull it all out and have a look !
[Image: 3%20In%20the%20box.jpg]
First impression is that it's a reasonably well made piece of kit. The welds look solid and the finish is pretty much flawless. By the weight of the system it feels like it's been made from a reasonable gauge of stainless too........ But what's that on the end of the centre pipe?
[Image: 4%20Lambda%20boss.jpg]
Oddness?!?!
The listing had a line in it that said "PLEASE NOTE THIS EXHAUST SYSTEM DOES NOT INCLUDE SENSOR FITTING". Strange? That looks just like a "sensor fitting" to me......

And what's that etching around the exhaust tip?
[Image: 5%20tail%20piece.jpg]
Riiiiiiiight. OK, It seems that what I've bought is either a direct copy in the most exact sense of the word, Or they've accidentally sent me a genuine Japspeed system?!?! Should I complain? :whistling:

When I ordered it I didn't think about how big a 4.5" tail pipe would actually be, Now I see it in the metal it looks fu**in' huge ! Confusedhock:

Here's the cheating part.
I was all up for fitting this myself today. I'd been checking the weather reports for Saturday all week and it was constantly saying it would be sunny......... But when I got up at 7 this morning it was a dull day that looked like rain was iminant..... (BU66ER !!!!!)

So, I did what any red blooded male (Who doesn't want to get rained on) with a new exhaust to fit would do and went off to a friends garage to see if I could scrounge some ramp time today. Unfortunately his appointment book was rammed solid so it wasn't possible. (DOUBLE BU66ER !!!!!)

Then I went to a local tire fitting place (Where I get on well with the bloke in charge) to see if I could borrow his ramp or some dry floor for 30 to 45 minutes. Turns out that he's transfered to another branch 9 miles away and the sprog that runs it now wanted 40 notes (+vat) and he wanted to fit it himself. (TRIPLE BU66ER WITH A SIDE ORDER OF BOL0CKS !!!!!!)

As I started to realise that I wasn't going to be able to blag some dry space to fit this thing today I thought I might as well bite the bullet and pay to have it done.

Trouble is, I'm a bit picky with who gets to wave spanners at my cars. Because I've had more bad than good experiences with the big "Quick S**t" type chains I don't trust many mechanics, So I decided to go to one I DO trust....... Who now works 9 miles away!

He was a bit surprised to see me roll up but after I explained that when it came to me car I didn't trust his replacement as far as I could repeatedly hit him with a cricket bat (With 6" nails driven through it!!!) he agreed to get my car in quickly while no one was looking. Happy days!

He said the fit wasn't bad at all and it pretty much lined up as it should...... Except the lambda boss. It seems that if you look at the 4th picture in this post (The one of the centre pipes end) the boss should have been fitted about another 10mm around to the right. The flange is fixed so it can't be adjusted at all. This mean that the wired end of the lambda is now sort of down in line with the lowest part of that pipe. It's not the lowest part of the car in that area, But it's still a little worrying to know that the end of an expensive component is now about an inch and a bit closer to anything that might rattle under my car (Coke cans, large stones or bit's of flat badger). If I worry to much I might invest in one of those right angle lambda fooling mini catalyst things to move it out the way a bit.

Now for the important bit....
Once it was fitted I started her up. It sounded quite nice, A little louder than standard, But not excessively...... So out came the tail pipe bung!
That's more like it !! I reckon I can now set off car alarms at 40 paces ! Big Grin


In my opinion the tail pipe sticks out a touch too far though......
[Image: 6%20Fitted%20looking%20down.jpg]
Trouble is that I can't see a way to alter that without taking an angle grinder to the tip. Not sure if the MOTer's going to be happy with it at the moment as it's straight cut "Pastry cutter" tip is about 1.5" beyond the surrounding bumper. I know that on an SVA test it would be an instant fail for this, but for the MOT I think it might just be down to how he's feeling on the day. Huh

Last picture......
[Image: 7%20Fitted%20rear%20view.jpg]
In my opinion it might be a touch low at the back. I had a prod about when she was still on the ramp and it looks like I could tweak the rear mounts a little to lift it up another inch or so without having any clearance issues around the rear suspension, So that'll be something to do when I have her jacked up next time.

All in all I think it was worth the money. I can hear the exhaust note so I'll now have a clue as to when my speeds slowly increased on the motorway (My only gripe with my IS200 is that it was TOO quiet at speed. On the motorway the only difference between 70 and 120 was that everyone else seemed to be dawdling....... First thing I did in it was to get caught doing an unintentional 58 in a 50 zone and was sent on a speed awareness course. :whistlingSmile. Without the tail pipe bung it feels just a tiny bit TOO loud for me, But that might just be because I'm not used to hearing the exhaust note in this thing. Worst case scenario is that I refit the bung (But I might paint it matt black first as it looks bl**dy awful in there. ConfusedadSmile....... We'll see.

Anyway, Thanks go out to everyone who's offered me useful info on this one (And Purplewitch. :whistling:........Big Grin).

All I really want to do now is get a 3D geometry check done and drive it for a bit.

Sorted !!!

Scotty B.

purplewitch
Posting Freak
3,953
08-07-2019, 10:41 AM
#27
All my advice is useful .. If nothing else it makes you smile before you go get your hands dirty.. But not rained on .. Wuss:p

I'm glad you like the noise, I like exhaust noiseSmile

Oh and I fell off the chair laughing when I read you had no idea 4.5 inches was so huge... My cat is most annoyed that I seem to be very drunk before I have fed him and he is blaming you.

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]That symbol on the side of my door.. Definition by FirebirdPhil 'Translated it means -
"try to overtake - go on give it a go I dare you......." [/COLOR]
I'm not an Outlaw; I'm a Poutlaw! Purple Supras are the bestest! I love purple .. a lot lot lot Smile
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purplewitch
08-07-2019, 10:41 AM #27

All my advice is useful .. If nothing else it makes you smile before you go get your hands dirty.. But not rained on .. Wuss:p

I'm glad you like the noise, I like exhaust noiseSmile

Oh and I fell off the chair laughing when I read you had no idea 4.5 inches was so huge... My cat is most annoyed that I seem to be very drunk before I have fed him and he is blaming you.


[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]That symbol on the side of my door.. Definition by FirebirdPhil 'Translated it means -
"try to overtake - go on give it a go I dare you......." [/COLOR]
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purplewitch
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08-07-2019, 10:42 AM
#28
Oh and stop working around the swear filter, you'll get in bother Smile

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]That symbol on the side of my door.. Definition by FirebirdPhil 'Translated it means -
"try to overtake - go on give it a go I dare you......." [/COLOR]
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purplewitch
08-07-2019, 10:42 AM #28

Oh and stop working around the swear filter, you'll get in bother Smile


[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] [COLOR="DarkOrchid"]That symbol on the side of my door.. Definition by FirebirdPhil 'Translated it means -
"try to overtake - go on give it a go I dare you......." [/COLOR]
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Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
08-07-2019, 10:46 AM
#29
Glad your finally sorted mate. Your right though it needs raising a tad.

OutlawJapClub Admin Team
Sparkystav
08-07-2019, 10:46 AM #29

Glad your finally sorted mate. Your right though it needs raising a tad.


OutlawJapClub Admin Team

Mr Reman
Senior Member
250
08-07-2019, 11:11 AM
#30
I really hate the whole profanity filter thing on here!
It feels way to strict, For example, In my head "Blo*dy" isn't a swear word, It's something you say INSTEAD of a swear word, and "Bast*rd" is a descriptive word that means "Between predefined category's". Yes, It also has usage as a term for an illegitimate child, But that came out of the original meaning, Not the other way around.

I'm not saying we should all be allowed to start f-ing and blinding here, But when a word like "Blo*dy" gets censored, I think we might be going to far.

Anyway, I'm just using very mild language of the kind you would hear any 10 year old in a school playground using.......... Your the one who jumped in with a double entendre when I innocently mentioned four and a half inches..... I think that says a lot there you smutty lady you !!!!! Confusedcared:

I'm going to leave it there as my spell checker's having a nervous breakdown. It's having a hissy fit at me about the asterisk's I've used in this post so far.

Scotty B.
Edited 18-08-2012, 08:53 PM by Mr Reman.
Mr Reman
08-07-2019, 11:11 AM #30

I really hate the whole profanity filter thing on here!
It feels way to strict, For example, In my head "Blo*dy" isn't a swear word, It's something you say INSTEAD of a swear word, and "Bast*rd" is a descriptive word that means "Between predefined category's". Yes, It also has usage as a term for an illegitimate child, But that came out of the original meaning, Not the other way around.

I'm not saying we should all be allowed to start f-ing and blinding here, But when a word like "Blo*dy" gets censored, I think we might be going to far.

Anyway, I'm just using very mild language of the kind you would hear any 10 year old in a school playground using.......... Your the one who jumped in with a double entendre when I innocently mentioned four and a half inches..... I think that says a lot there you smutty lady you !!!!! Confusedcared:

I'm going to leave it there as my spell checker's having a nervous breakdown. It's having a hissy fit at me about the asterisk's I've used in this post so far.

Scotty B.

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