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steviewevie
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02-09-2016, 11:02 PM
#31
It's only rear fog lamps that are tested in the MoT. Remember that a lot of cars don't have any front fogs at all, so they're classed as optional lamps and are not tested.

A sidelight just needs to be a white lamp, so LED strips should be fine for that.

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steviewevie
02-09-2016, 11:02 PM #31

It's only rear fog lamps that are tested in the MoT. Remember that a lot of cars don't have any front fogs at all, so they're classed as optional lamps and are not tested.

A sidelight just needs to be a white lamp, so LED strips should be fine for that.


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Lexusboy
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02-09-2016, 11:13 PM
#32
I guess this is another question for Ormi as it a little confusing.

If you have got it, then it must work was my understanding. It is the same as a spare tyre, you dont have to have one, but if you do then it must be legal.

However i do agree that the front fogs do not show on the below link.
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_110.htm

Other thing is if the lamp glass is broken then this is a failure.

Best thing is to phone the MOT station and ask the question.
Lexusboy
02-09-2016, 11:13 PM #32

I guess this is another question for Ormi as it a little confusing.

If you have got it, then it must work was my understanding. It is the same as a spare tyre, you dont have to have one, but if you do then it must be legal.

However i do agree that the front fogs do not show on the below link.
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_110.htm

Other thing is if the lamp glass is broken then this is a failure.

Best thing is to phone the MOT station and ask the question.

steviewevie
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02-09-2016, 11:19 PM
#33
They're optional lamps so are covered by :

Quote:Any additional position lamps are optional and are not included in the inspection.

Doesn't matter if you've got them or not, they shouldn't be tested in the MoT.


Quote:Other thing is if the lamp glass is broken then this is a failure.
For the mandatory lamps, yes, for front fog lamps, no.
Edited 15-10-2009, 08:55 AM by steviewevie.

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steviewevie
02-09-2016, 11:19 PM #33

They're optional lamps so are covered by :

Quote:Any additional position lamps are optional and are not included in the inspection.

Doesn't matter if you've got them or not, they shouldn't be tested in the MoT.


Quote:Other thing is if the lamp glass is broken then this is a failure.
For the mandatory lamps, yes, for front fog lamps, no.


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Lexusboy
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02-09-2016, 11:28 PM
#34
Steve i do not agree with quote "For the mandatory lamps, yes, for front fog lamps, no."

If the lamp is broken then this can be classed as dangerous because it a sharp object.

I am happy to be corrected on this point thoughBlush
Lexusboy
02-09-2016, 11:28 PM #34

Steve i do not agree with quote "For the mandatory lamps, yes, for front fog lamps, no."

If the lamp is broken then this can be classed as dangerous because it a sharp object.

I am happy to be corrected on this point thoughBlush

parthiban
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03-09-2016, 12:52 AM
#35
Good stuff, hopefully I'll be able to clarify later today whether the front fogs are included or not based on whether they tell me I need to replace it or not!

Was being followed by an 08 plate Audi Q7 this morning with only one working HID, also remember that both my brother's HIDs failed when the car was 2 years old so he had no headlights for a while - on that basis I've done pretty well with mine Smile

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
03-09-2016, 12:52 AM #35

Good stuff, hopefully I'll be able to clarify later today whether the front fogs are included or not based on whether they tell me I need to replace it or not!

Was being followed by an 08 plate Audi Q7 this morning with only one working HID, also remember that both my brother's HIDs failed when the car was 2 years old so he had no headlights for a while - on that basis I've done pretty well with mine Smile


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Purvesh
Junior Member
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03-09-2016, 12:59 AM
#36
parthiban Cool, I'll check out the link Dan mentioned if he can find it, otherwise might go with them then. How do you mean wouldn't go down to 4300K again? Do you mean just in terms of colour? If so, that's exactly what I want, it's getting a bit chavvy to have the bluer lights, so just want it to look OEM (plus technically I'd have more light on the road which is no bad thing)
Yeah I mean colour temp. I agree I probably wouldn't go for 8000k, probably 6000k. I keep visualizing 4300k as the nasty OEM yellow, but like you say it's not.

You should be ok with the fog, as the same happened to me. The whole foglight was corroded at the back. There was no way the bulb was coming out. So I replaced both of them for the new Satin version and smeared plenty of grease on the back. They have a new cover on the back to stop the salt getting to it. Hope yours haven't corroded though! :mellow:

ps We going fishing today? Big Grin

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Purvesh
03-09-2016, 12:59 AM #36

parthiban Cool, I'll check out the link Dan mentioned if he can find it, otherwise might go with them then. How do you mean wouldn't go down to 4300K again? Do you mean just in terms of colour? If so, that's exactly what I want, it's getting a bit chavvy to have the bluer lights, so just want it to look OEM (plus technically I'd have more light on the road which is no bad thing)
Yeah I mean colour temp. I agree I probably wouldn't go for 8000k, probably 6000k. I keep visualizing 4300k as the nasty OEM yellow, but like you say it's not.

You should be ok with the fog, as the same happened to me. The whole foglight was corroded at the back. There was no way the bulb was coming out. So I replaced both of them for the new Satin version and smeared plenty of grease on the back. They have a new cover on the back to stop the salt getting to it. Hope yours haven't corroded though! :mellow:

ps We going fishing today? Big Grin


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Lexusboy
Posting Freak
9,267
03-09-2016, 01:18 AM
#37
My sister-in-law had a Audi A8 and her head light went the dealer only had one techi who could change it and there £500 each, sounds crazy.
Lexusboy
03-09-2016, 01:18 AM #37

My sister-in-law had a Audi A8 and her head light went the dealer only had one techi who could change it and there £500 each, sounds crazy.

parthiban
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03-09-2016, 01:43 AM
#38
Purvesh Yeah I mean colour temp. I agree I probably wouldn't go for 8000k, probably 6000k. I keep visualizing 4300k as the nasty OEM yellow, but like you say it's not.

You should be ok with the fog, as the same happened to me. The whole foglight was corroded at the back. There was no way the bulb was coming out. So I replaced both of them for the new Satin version and smeared plenty of grease on the back. They have a new cover on the back to stop the salt getting to it. Hope yours haven't corroded though! :mellow:

ps We going fishing today? Big Grin
Yep 4300K is the most white to be honest, 6000K is white but very slightly blue, and then 8000K is much bluer.

I hope the fog isn't corroded, but that could be a possibility as it's such a common problem and I really don't use them so unusual for the bulb to go - hopefully it is just the bulb though.

Not sure mate, post hadn't arrived when I left, but hopefully it'll be there when I get home! :biggrin:

Lexusboy My sister-in-law had a Audi A8 and her head light went the dealer only had one techi who could change it and there £500 each, sounds crazy.
The BMW ones were more than that actually, luckily it was a warranty job as otherwise that would not have been a nice bill!

Why only one tech to replace a headlight? Surely it's one of the simplest jobs there is!

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
03-09-2016, 01:43 AM #38

Purvesh Yeah I mean colour temp. I agree I probably wouldn't go for 8000k, probably 6000k. I keep visualizing 4300k as the nasty OEM yellow, but like you say it's not.

You should be ok with the fog, as the same happened to me. The whole foglight was corroded at the back. There was no way the bulb was coming out. So I replaced both of them for the new Satin version and smeared plenty of grease on the back. They have a new cover on the back to stop the salt getting to it. Hope yours haven't corroded though! :mellow:

ps We going fishing today? Big Grin
Yep 4300K is the most white to be honest, 6000K is white but very slightly blue, and then 8000K is much bluer.

I hope the fog isn't corroded, but that could be a possibility as it's such a common problem and I really don't use them so unusual for the bulb to go - hopefully it is just the bulb though.

Not sure mate, post hadn't arrived when I left, but hopefully it'll be there when I get home! :biggrin:

Lexusboy My sister-in-law had a Audi A8 and her head light went the dealer only had one techi who could change it and there £500 each, sounds crazy.
The BMW ones were more than that actually, luckily it was a warranty job as otherwise that would not have been a nice bill!

Why only one tech to replace a headlight? Surely it's one of the simplest jobs there is!


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Lexusboy
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03-09-2016, 01:46 AM
#39
I think the Audi one have some gas or some thing in the unit.
Lexusboy
03-09-2016, 01:46 AM #39

I think the Audi one have some gas or some thing in the unit.

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
03-09-2016, 06:53 AM
#40
4300K is typically what colour temp OEM HIDs are, so they're not yellow at all. Also bear in mind that 4300K will be slightly brighter than 6000K, and a lot brighter than 8000K.

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steviewevie
03-09-2016, 06:53 AM #40

4300K is typically what colour temp OEM HIDs are, so they're not yellow at all. Also bear in mind that 4300K will be slightly brighter than 6000K, and a lot brighter than 8000K.


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IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

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