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parthiban
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14-10-2017, 02:46 AM
#1
Been having some problems with my router (which I think I've spoken about before), basically I had a netgear router and it kept dropping the connection and as I had a spare (identical router as it happens) I swapped them over and I'm still having the same problems.

Every so often (which is now a few times a week) it stops doing anything and needs to be switched off and on to start working again. As they're both the same router it doesn't rule out a problem with the router, but as it's happened on two separate ones I want to make sure before I buy a new one what the problem could be.

Could there be anything else causing this, or is it most likely a router fault? And if so I'm not buying another netgear one, which brands make the most reliable routers? (I've actually been quite happy with the solwise powerline adapters so wondering whether it might be a good idea to just buy one of their routers as well instead of going for a big name brand)

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
14-10-2017, 02:46 AM #1

Been having some problems with my router (which I think I've spoken about before), basically I had a netgear router and it kept dropping the connection and as I had a spare (identical router as it happens) I swapped them over and I'm still having the same problems.

Every so often (which is now a few times a week) it stops doing anything and needs to be switched off and on to start working again. As they're both the same router it doesn't rule out a problem with the router, but as it's happened on two separate ones I want to make sure before I buy a new one what the problem could be.

Could there be anything else causing this, or is it most likely a router fault? And if so I'm not buying another netgear one, which brands make the most reliable routers? (I've actually been quite happy with the solwise powerline adapters so wondering whether it might be a good idea to just buy one of their routers as well instead of going for a big name brand)


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Saraj
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2,791
14-10-2017, 03:03 AM
#2
I have always had a problem and every so oftwn have to reset the router pain in the backside really

this is from belkin, d link, lynksys, netgear

at the moment im using d link suoplied by virgin and yet have to reset everything atleast once per week

[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]
Saraj
14-10-2017, 03:03 AM #2

I have always had a problem and every so oftwn have to reset the router pain in the backside really

this is from belkin, d link, lynksys, netgear

at the moment im using d link suoplied by virgin and yet have to reset everything atleast once per week


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
14-10-2017, 03:15 AM
#3
That doesn't sound good, so a new router may not solve the problem then. Is there a solution so I can have my wired PCs connected up to the internet not via the wireless router so that even if it decides to go to sleep they're all still connected?

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
14-10-2017, 03:15 AM #3

That doesn't sound good, so a new router may not solve the problem then. Is there a solution so I can have my wired PCs connected up to the internet not via the wireless router so that even if it decides to go to sleep they're all still connected?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
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4,843
14-10-2017, 04:01 AM
#4
Most home user routers are based on very similar integrated processors running the same kind of embedded linux setup. They tend to have very small amounts of RAM which the manufacturers have then shoehorned all sorts of additional cleverness into, which leaves the poor thing with very few resources, so the tiniest memory leak or lack of optimisation can rear its head after a few weeks or months.

A Netgear DG834G is actually the most reliable router I've had, but I had hacked it and played around with it a lot which probably didn't help. You could do worse than something Linksys that you can run DD-WRT on (an aftermarket, opensourced Router OS, again embedded linux based but rather better looked after).

The only way you could do what you've suggested, to truly separate wireless and wired clients, is to get a non-wireless broadband router, and a separate wireless access point. This is what I do at home at the moment and it works a treat, I never have to reboot any of it. It's more cost, more complication and more boxes + cables though Smile
toxo
14-10-2017, 04:01 AM #4

Most home user routers are based on very similar integrated processors running the same kind of embedded linux setup. They tend to have very small amounts of RAM which the manufacturers have then shoehorned all sorts of additional cleverness into, which leaves the poor thing with very few resources, so the tiniest memory leak or lack of optimisation can rear its head after a few weeks or months.

A Netgear DG834G is actually the most reliable router I've had, but I had hacked it and played around with it a lot which probably didn't help. You could do worse than something Linksys that you can run DD-WRT on (an aftermarket, opensourced Router OS, again embedded linux based but rather better looked after).

The only way you could do what you've suggested, to truly separate wireless and wired clients, is to get a non-wireless broadband router, and a separate wireless access point. This is what I do at home at the moment and it works a treat, I never have to reboot any of it. It's more cost, more complication and more boxes + cables though Smile

parthiban
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4,925
14-10-2017, 04:18 AM
#5
Ok I'll admit to most of that going over my head, but I think I got the general idea about them being too simple to deal with what we're putting through them :laugh:

I can't remember off the top of my head which router I've got, but it's the wireless-G one - think it's the same one you mentioned but the non-ADSL version?

toxo The only way you could do what you've suggested, to truly separate wireless and wired clients, is to get a non-wireless broadband router, and a separate wireless access point. This is what I do at home at the moment and it works a treat, I never have to reboot any of it. It's more cost, more complication and more boxes + cables though Smile

What sort of cost am I looking at to do the above and can you recommend any products? I don't mind spending a little, the regular connection dropping is getting very tiring so I want a solution to make it reliable!

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
14-10-2017, 04:18 AM #5

Ok I'll admit to most of that going over my head, but I think I got the general idea about them being too simple to deal with what we're putting through them :laugh:

I can't remember off the top of my head which router I've got, but it's the wireless-G one - think it's the same one you mentioned but the non-ADSL version?

toxo The only way you could do what you've suggested, to truly separate wireless and wired clients, is to get a non-wireless broadband router, and a separate wireless access point. This is what I do at home at the moment and it works a treat, I never have to reboot any of it. It's more cost, more complication and more boxes + cables though Smile

What sort of cost am I looking at to do the above and can you recommend any products? I don't mind spending a little, the regular connection dropping is getting very tiring so I want a solution to make it reliable!


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
14-10-2017, 04:22 AM
#6
Well, you know how you flash a custom ROM onto your Android phone... you can do the same with some routers. That's what DD-WRT is. Anyway....

If you don't use ADSL, are you using cable? So you're currently using something like this?

http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_firewa...wgr614.php
toxo
14-10-2017, 04:22 AM #6

Well, you know how you flash a custom ROM onto your Android phone... you can do the same with some routers. That's what DD-WRT is. Anyway....

If you don't use ADSL, are you using cable? So you're currently using something like this?

http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_firewa...wgr614.php

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
14-10-2017, 04:27 AM
#7
toxo Well, you know how you flash a custom ROM onto your Android phone... you can do the same with some routers. That's what DD-WRT is. Anyway....

If you don't use ADSL, are you using cable? So you're currently using something like this?

http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_firewa...wgr614.php

Oh fair enough, so you can reprogram them to make them better? Actually not sure why I asked that as that's what I do with my phone Smile

Yep got Virgin cable, and probably just an older model than that one, just dug it out and this is the model I've got:

http://www.netgear.co.uk/rangemax_wirele...wpn824.php

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
14-10-2017, 04:27 AM #7

toxo Well, you know how you flash a custom ROM onto your Android phone... you can do the same with some routers. That's what DD-WRT is. Anyway....

If you don't use ADSL, are you using cable? So you're currently using something like this?

http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_firewa...wgr614.php

Oh fair enough, so you can reprogram them to make them better? Actually not sure why I asked that as that's what I do with my phone Smile

Yep got Virgin cable, and probably just an older model than that one, just dug it out and this is the model I've got:

http://www.netgear.co.uk/rangemax_wirele...wpn824.php


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
14-10-2017, 05:42 AM
#8
Ahha, that's the same range as my access point (also a rangemax, but not a router).

So if you wanted to stick with Netgear you could get something like this:
http://www.netgear.co.uk/wired_cable_router_rp614.php
and something like this:
http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_access...nap210.php
which would work together flawlessly. Personally if I were to buy another access point it'd be a Cisco one but they start at about £200 so a bit over the top for home use :lol:

Alternatively you could look into Draytek, whos products I've always found to be rock solid. Something like this should do:

http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2130.html
toxo
14-10-2017, 05:42 AM #8

Ahha, that's the same range as my access point (also a rangemax, but not a router).

So if you wanted to stick with Netgear you could get something like this:
http://www.netgear.co.uk/wired_cable_router_rp614.php
and something like this:
http://www.netgear.co.uk/wireless_access...nap210.php
which would work together flawlessly. Personally if I were to buy another access point it'd be a Cisco one but they start at about £200 so a bit over the top for home use :lol:

Alternatively you could look into Draytek, whos products I've always found to be rock solid. Something like this should do:

http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/vigor2130.html

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
14-10-2017, 06:22 AM
#9
Thanks for that, possibly unfairly but this whole experience has put me off Netgear, would you say then that Cisco stuff is the best in terms of reliability? Any other recommended brands? Many years ago I had a buffalo wireless router that was rock solid, is buffalo stuff still good?

Would this be ok? Price seems reasonable....... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164592

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
14-10-2017, 06:22 AM #9

Thanks for that, possibly unfairly but this whole experience has put me off Netgear, would you say then that Cisco stuff is the best in terms of reliability? Any other recommended brands? Many years ago I had a buffalo wireless router that was rock solid, is buffalo stuff still good?

Would this be ok? Price seems reasonable....... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164592


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
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4,843
14-10-2017, 07:10 AM
#10
parthiban would you say then that Cisco stuff is the best in terms of reliability?

Absolutely, it's enterprise grade kit. It's total overkill for home use and has a price tag to match. It's not straight forward to configure either.
toxo
14-10-2017, 07:10 AM #10

parthiban would you say then that Cisco stuff is the best in terms of reliability?

Absolutely, it's enterprise grade kit. It's total overkill for home use and has a price tag to match. It's not straight forward to configure either.

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