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parthiban
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4,925
27-11-2017, 04:06 AM
#1
I put my new battery in this morning and all is now well, car starts perfectly and doesn't try to stall everytime I stop :thumbup:

However, a couple of issues I was hoping would be resolved still exist, so does anyone have any ideas what could be causing these?

1. Idle is still quite low, around 400rpm

2. When stopped, dash lights dim, and battery meter drops to the thick white line above 9V (not sure what voltage that is)


Or could it just be that this battery might have been sitting around for a while and after a bit of driving and allowing it to charge up fully it'll be fine?

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
27-11-2017, 04:06 AM #1

I put my new battery in this morning and all is now well, car starts perfectly and doesn't try to stall everytime I stop :thumbup:

However, a couple of issues I was hoping would be resolved still exist, so does anyone have any ideas what could be causing these?

1. Idle is still quite low, around 400rpm

2. When stopped, dash lights dim, and battery meter drops to the thick white line above 9V (not sure what voltage that is)


Or could it just be that this battery might have been sitting around for a while and after a bit of driving and allowing it to charge up fully it'll be fine?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Dark Samurai
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4,957
27-11-2017, 04:08 AM
#2
Try ECU reset for the idling problem mate?

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Dark Samurai
27-11-2017, 04:08 AM #2

Try ECU reset for the idling problem mate?


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Click here for garage.

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James S
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1,240
27-11-2017, 04:10 AM
#3
Try giving it a good run mate, will probably need a good charge. Smile
James S
27-11-2017, 04:10 AM #3

Try giving it a good run mate, will probably need a good charge. Smile

parthiban
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4,925
27-11-2017, 04:17 AM
#4
Dark Samurai Try ECU reset for the idling problem mate?
Well the car's been sitting with a dead battery for a few weeks so the ECU should be fully reset! Can actually feel it as the throttle response and gear changes aren't how they used to be!

James S Try giving it a good run mate, will probably need a good charge. Smile
I'll give that a go, maybe take it for a motorway run in a bit.

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
27-11-2017, 04:17 AM #4

Dark Samurai Try ECU reset for the idling problem mate?
Well the car's been sitting with a dead battery for a few weeks so the ECU should be fully reset! Can actually feel it as the throttle response and gear changes aren't how they used to be!

James S Try giving it a good run mate, will probably need a good charge. Smile
I'll give that a go, maybe take it for a motorway run in a bit.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Phil01
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2,004
27-11-2017, 05:05 AM
#5
seems to be abit of confusion around dash lights dimming on various posts.

A fully charged healthy battery should read about 12.4ish volts, so when you turn on your lights they will be powered by 12.1-12.2 volts.
Now when you start your engine the alternator will supply anywhere between 13.8v to 14.3v dependent on what the voltage regulator is supplying contain within the alternator.
So now you can see why the light go brighter when engine is running as the bulbs are running at anywhere up to 14.v, so by pure nature they will shine brighter due to greater voltaage.
So if you see a difference of brightness/dimming even on idle, please do not worry too much as this seems to confuse a lot of people, as they think the battery/alternator is faulty.

One small point, if you buy a brand new battery and it is slightly discharged from storage, it should only need a maximum of ten mins running at idle to bring it back to a healthy 1260sg fully charged state as the chemicals contained within is capable of causing the reaction to bring it up to this state.
Hope that helps some of you
Phil01
27-11-2017, 05:05 AM #5

seems to be abit of confusion around dash lights dimming on various posts.

A fully charged healthy battery should read about 12.4ish volts, so when you turn on your lights they will be powered by 12.1-12.2 volts.
Now when you start your engine the alternator will supply anywhere between 13.8v to 14.3v dependent on what the voltage regulator is supplying contain within the alternator.
So now you can see why the light go brighter when engine is running as the bulbs are running at anywhere up to 14.v, so by pure nature they will shine brighter due to greater voltaage.
So if you see a difference of brightness/dimming even on idle, please do not worry too much as this seems to confuse a lot of people, as they think the battery/alternator is faulty.

One small point, if you buy a brand new battery and it is slightly discharged from storage, it should only need a maximum of ten mins running at idle to bring it back to a healthy 1260sg fully charged state as the chemicals contained within is capable of causing the reaction to bring it up to this state.
Hope that helps some of you

Phil01
Posting Freak
2,004
27-11-2017, 05:09 AM
#6
and do not rely too much on the dashboard voltmeter reading less than 12v without engine running.
you need the ignition on to make that meter work.
when ignition switched on the battery voltage can drop as low as 11.4v once it has powered up the ignition, primed the fuel pump, dash lights on, etc etc,
Phil01
27-11-2017, 05:09 AM #6

and do not rely too much on the dashboard voltmeter reading less than 12v without engine running.
you need the ignition on to make that meter work.
when ignition switched on the battery voltage can drop as low as 11.4v once it has powered up the ignition, primed the fuel pump, dash lights on, etc etc,

Phil01
Posting Freak
2,004
27-11-2017, 05:12 AM
#7
if anyone needs their battery or alternator tested and are local to me then give me a shout,
I carry a £600 battery tester analyser in my works LandRover that is endorsed by Jaguar/Landrover, this authorises me to replace batteries under warranty from the results produced.
Phil01
27-11-2017, 05:12 AM #7

if anyone needs their battery or alternator tested and are local to me then give me a shout,
I carry a £600 battery tester analyser in my works LandRover that is endorsed by Jaguar/Landrover, this authorises me to replace batteries under warranty from the results produced.

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
27-11-2017, 05:19 AM
#8
Yep a small amount of dimming I'd accept, but this is dimming too much, it goes really dull although I do feel perhaps part of the reason is the low idle - when stationary if I gently press the accelerator and bring the revs up to about 800rpm, the dash looks fine and the battery meter reads a better voltage.

So perhaps it's the low idle that's causing the problem? The last time I had it in they couldn't find a fault but suggested cleaning the throttle body (or something like that) might help..........is that something I should consider doing or probably won't make any difference?

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
27-11-2017, 05:19 AM #8

Yep a small amount of dimming I'd accept, but this is dimming too much, it goes really dull although I do feel perhaps part of the reason is the low idle - when stationary if I gently press the accelerator and bring the revs up to about 800rpm, the dash looks fine and the battery meter reads a better voltage.

So perhaps it's the low idle that's causing the problem? The last time I had it in they couldn't find a fault but suggested cleaning the throttle body (or something like that) might help..........is that something I should consider doing or probably won't make any difference?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

ormi
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3,006
27-11-2017, 03:11 PM
#9
the low idle is due to the battery change and will return to normal once it has learned again....happened to mine when i replaced the battery a days later after a decent run it was back too 800rpm at idle

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ormi
27-11-2017, 03:11 PM #9

the low idle is due to the battery change and will return to normal once it has learned again....happened to mine when i replaced the battery a days later after a decent run it was back too 800rpm at idle


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TTE supercharger,pr0lex manifold,hks fcd,larger intercooler,apexi induction kit,silicone hose kit,IK22's,polished engine parts,TTE front bumper mod'd for intercooler,TRD side skirts,TRD rear lip,JDM headlights and fogs,10k hid headlights 8k full beam,L8XSS p/plate,fog/brake/light conversion,18"fox rs's,lowered 90mm(f)100mm®,moleys under bars,yellow trd anti rollbars,full stainless exhaust,carbon fiber intake plus so much more

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
28-11-2017, 02:09 AM
#10
ormi the low idle is due to the battery change and will return to normal once it has learned again....happened to mine when i replaced the battery a days later after a decent run it was back too 800rpm at idle

Cheers mate, ok I'll give it a few days and see how it goes. So was the low idle I've had for the last few months or so before changing the battery because the old battery was on its way out?

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
28-11-2017, 02:09 AM #10

ormi the low idle is due to the battery change and will return to normal once it has learned again....happened to mine when i replaced the battery a days later after a decent run it was back too 800rpm at idle

Cheers mate, ok I'll give it a few days and see how it goes. So was the low idle I've had for the last few months or so before changing the battery because the old battery was on its way out?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

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