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Is my battery the problem?

Is my battery the problem?

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parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
28-09-2017, 06:33 AM
#1
Following on from my recent engine troubles I cleaned my K&N (which was filthy to be fair) but things haven't really changed.

However since getting quite a bit colder over the last few days, things have got worse and seems to be pointing at the battery.

1. When starting a cold engine, it sounds really unhealthy and if it's dark (so headlights try to come on) the HIDs flicker quite badly while the engine is starting.

2. While the engine is cold and driving along at a constant speed, it feels as though the engine is stuttering.

3. When I stop at traffic lights or similar, engine revs drop low (about 400rpm), the dash lights dim a lot and the battery meter drops down around 2 markings.

Does all this mean I need a new battery or is something else wrong? It has been about 4 years I think since I changed it so a battery change doesn't seem completely out of the question.

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
28-09-2017, 06:33 AM #1

Following on from my recent engine troubles I cleaned my K&N (which was filthy to be fair) but things haven't really changed.

However since getting quite a bit colder over the last few days, things have got worse and seems to be pointing at the battery.

1. When starting a cold engine, it sounds really unhealthy and if it's dark (so headlights try to come on) the HIDs flicker quite badly while the engine is starting.

2. While the engine is cold and driving along at a constant speed, it feels as though the engine is stuttering.

3. When I stop at traffic lights or similar, engine revs drop low (about 400rpm), the dash lights dim a lot and the battery meter drops down around 2 markings.

Does all this mean I need a new battery or is something else wrong? It has been about 4 years I think since I changed it so a battery change doesn't seem completely out of the question.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Fry-Up
Posting Freak
891
28-09-2017, 06:38 AM
#2
yeh sounds familiar, look at the battery needle on the dials when you stop and you will see it drop, and when you rev everything brightens up and the needle moves, if a new battery doesn't solve it, then alternator??
Fry-Up
28-09-2017, 06:38 AM #2

yeh sounds familiar, look at the battery needle on the dials when you stop and you will see it drop, and when you rev everything brightens up and the needle moves, if a new battery doesn't solve it, then alternator??

Fry-Up
Posting Freak
891
28-09-2017, 06:39 AM
#3
I didn't spot that u'd noticed the battery meter lol, a new battery on my 200 sorted that out, got it direct from toyota too as it wasn't that expensive
Fry-Up
28-09-2017, 06:39 AM #3

I didn't spot that u'd noticed the battery meter lol, a new battery on my 200 sorted that out, got it direct from toyota too as it wasn't that expensive

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
28-09-2017, 06:58 AM
#4
Cold weather does highlight batteries that are on the way out, and we have had a drop of 3 degrees or so where I am in the last week. And as mentioned, batteries are cheap from Toyota (significantly cheaper than Halfords). You could be experiencing a load drop which can cause all sorts of weird electrical behaviour. It sounds like your symptoms are easily reproduceable so you could test by throwing a suitably sized battery in from something else.
toxo
28-09-2017, 06:58 AM #4

Cold weather does highlight batteries that are on the way out, and we have had a drop of 3 degrees or so where I am in the last week. And as mentioned, batteries are cheap from Toyota (significantly cheaper than Halfords). You could be experiencing a load drop which can cause all sorts of weird electrical behaviour. It sounds like your symptoms are easily reproduceable so you could test by throwing a suitably sized battery in from something else.

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
28-09-2017, 07:07 AM
#5
Cool cheers for the replies, the battery meter is dropping down while stationary, and if I gently raise the engine revs with the accelerator then the dash brightens up and the needle rises back up again.

Yep the batteries are only £50 or so aren't they, think I'll just change it (car's going in next week to sort that scratch out so I'll get them to do this as well) and hopefully that sorts all the problems out Smile

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
28-09-2017, 07:07 AM #5

Cool cheers for the replies, the battery meter is dropping down while stationary, and if I gently raise the engine revs with the accelerator then the dash brightens up and the needle rises back up again.

Yep the batteries are only £50 or so aren't they, think I'll just change it (car's going in next week to sort that scratch out so I'll get them to do this as well) and hopefully that sorts all the problems out Smile


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

Rabster
Posting Freak
10,234
28-09-2017, 07:56 AM
#6
yes cold weather destroyed my battery i got a txt from the alarm telling me it was down at 10.8v = not good lol
Rabster
28-09-2017, 07:56 AM #6

yes cold weather destroyed my battery i got a txt from the alarm telling me it was down at 10.8v = not good lol

parthiban
Posting Freak
4,925
28-09-2017, 08:00 AM
#7
Rabster yes cold weather destroyed my battery i got a txt from the alarm telling me it was down at 10.8v = not good lol

That's awesome!

Lol maybe one day it'll be able to let you know that the battery is low, and then drive itself to the dealer to get it sorted :w00t:

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
28-09-2017, 08:00 AM #7

Rabster yes cold weather destroyed my battery i got a txt from the alarm telling me it was down at 10.8v = not good lol

That's awesome!

Lol maybe one day it'll be able to let you know that the battery is low, and then drive itself to the dealer to get it sorted :w00t:


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
28-09-2017, 08:05 AM
#8
You can configure some of them to start the car if the battery starts tailing off... have to remember not to leave the car in gear though :lol: Stops people from nicking cars by draining the power from the alarm.
toxo
28-09-2017, 08:05 AM #8

You can configure some of them to start the car if the battery starts tailing off... have to remember not to leave the car in gear though :lol: Stops people from nicking cars by draining the power from the alarm.

Rabster
Posting Freak
10,234
28-09-2017, 08:17 AM
#9
yeah i thought about activating the power up on flat battery function but im not always in the uk and the thought of my car starting at 2am when im in qatar working just doesnt sit right lol
Rabster
28-09-2017, 08:17 AM #9

yeah i thought about activating the power up on flat battery function but im not always in the uk and the thought of my car starting at 2am when im in qatar working just doesnt sit right lol

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
28-09-2017, 12:40 PM
#10
Marsdendean If i'm sat at lights my lights go dimmer (dash lights) and if i put it into N and rev it a little (only 1000 rpm) everything comes back to light so i think mins on the way out

That's more like the alternator being on the way out, or having too much load on it. My alternator isn't quite up to the job and I get exactly the same symptoms you've described.
toxo
28-09-2017, 12:40 PM #10

Marsdendean If i'm sat at lights my lights go dimmer (dash lights) and if i put it into N and rev it a little (only 1000 rpm) everything comes back to light so i think mins on the way out

That's more like the alternator being on the way out, or having too much load on it. My alternator isn't quite up to the job and I get exactly the same symptoms you've described.

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