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parthiban
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06-12-2017, 06:32 AM
#21
Really want to replace my router now and thinking of buying one of these:

http://www.linksysbycisco.com/UK/en/products/E3000

It's fairly expensive though so want to make sure I'm not wasting money, will the dual band function be worth the extra money with regard to things like media streaming and online gaming as the blurb suggests?

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parthiban
06-12-2017, 06:32 AM #21

Really want to replace my router now and thinking of buying one of these:

http://www.linksysbycisco.com/UK/en/products/E3000

It's fairly expensive though so want to make sure I'm not wasting money, will the dual band function be worth the extra money with regard to things like media streaming and online gaming as the blurb suggests?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
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4,843
06-12-2017, 09:36 AM
#22
Yeah they are quite good. We use the older version at work for providing wireless access to students in remote accommodation buildings that aren't connected up to the main network.

Whatever you do, don't use the stigging CD to install it though! Just plug it in and use the admin web page on the device to configure it.
toxo
06-12-2017, 09:36 AM #22

Yeah they are quite good. We use the older version at work for providing wireless access to students in remote accommodation buildings that aren't connected up to the main network.

Whatever you do, don't use the stigging CD to install it though! Just plug it in and use the admin web page on the device to configure it.

parthiban
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06-12-2017, 10:37 AM
#23
toxo Yeah they are quite good. We use the older version at work for providing wireless access to students in remote accommodation buildings that aren't connected up to the main network.

Whatever you do, don't use the stigging CD to install it though! Just plug it in and use the admin web page on the device to configure it.

Thanks I'll just go with that - read a review that said a Netgear one was faster but not too keen on getting another one of theirs so hopefully this one will be better Smile

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
06-12-2017, 10:37 AM #23

toxo Yeah they are quite good. We use the older version at work for providing wireless access to students in remote accommodation buildings that aren't connected up to the main network.

Whatever you do, don't use the stigging CD to install it though! Just plug it in and use the admin web page on the device to configure it.

Thanks I'll just go with that - read a review that said a Netgear one was faster but not too keen on getting another one of theirs so hopefully this one will be better Smile


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

parthiban
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18-12-2017, 02:56 AM
#24
I bought the new router and to begin with everything seemed fine.

The wired aspect works great and still does, all the wired devices are working perfectly and getting a solid, stable and continuous signal so at least one side of things is sorted.

However the wireless is still having problems. It works for a while, and then it stops. I reboot it and the same happens again.

Why does the wireless keep dropping? As this is the third router doing it I'm thinking it can't be a faulty router? Are there any settings that I should change to make things better?

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
18-12-2017, 02:56 AM #24

I bought the new router and to begin with everything seemed fine.

The wired aspect works great and still does, all the wired devices are working perfectly and getting a solid, stable and continuous signal so at least one side of things is sorted.

However the wireless is still having problems. It works for a while, and then it stops. I reboot it and the same happens again.

Why does the wireless keep dropping? As this is the third router doing it I'm thinking it can't be a faulty router? Are there any settings that I should change to make things better?


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
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4,843
18-12-2017, 03:18 AM
#25
You've got an android phone right?

Install Wifi Analyzer and switch to the channel graph view. That'll show you surrounding wireless networks, what channel they're on (and how channel selection can make some networks overlap) and how strong they are. Run it when your wireless is working fine, and note down the results. Then run it again when the wireless is misbehaving and see if another network has popped up overlapping with yours.
toxo
18-12-2017, 03:18 AM #25

You've got an android phone right?

Install Wifi Analyzer and switch to the channel graph view. That'll show you surrounding wireless networks, what channel they're on (and how channel selection can make some networks overlap) and how strong they are. Run it when your wireless is working fine, and note down the results. Then run it again when the wireless is misbehaving and see if another network has popped up overlapping with yours.

parthiban
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18-12-2017, 04:19 AM
#26
toxo You've got an android phone right?

Install Wifi Analyzer and switch to the channel graph view. That'll show you surrounding wireless networks, what channel they're on (and how channel selection can make some networks overlap) and how strong they are. Run it when your wireless is working fine, and note down the results. Then run it again when the wireless is misbehaving and see if another network has popped up overlapping with yours.

Thanks for the tip, already had wifi analyser but didn't think to use it :Fish:

Does having the router on auto channel setting cause issues? I had it on auto so far and was having problems. Rebooted it last night, worked for a bit, then after about 2 hours it was gone again. After a bit of googling this morning set it to channel 6 and it was working fine over the last few hours.

However it looks like there are 3 other networks around me using channel 6 as well so have now set it to channel 11 (is there a particular channel that's best to use or just not whatever anyone else is using?)

Before and after screenshots holding my phone next to the PS3:

[Image: 394876416.jpg] [Image: 394876418.jpg]

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
18-12-2017, 04:19 AM #26

toxo You've got an android phone right?

Install Wifi Analyzer and switch to the channel graph view. That'll show you surrounding wireless networks, what channel they're on (and how channel selection can make some networks overlap) and how strong they are. Run it when your wireless is working fine, and note down the results. Then run it again when the wireless is misbehaving and see if another network has popped up overlapping with yours.

Thanks for the tip, already had wifi analyser but didn't think to use it :Fish:

Does having the router on auto channel setting cause issues? I had it on auto so far and was having problems. Rebooted it last night, worked for a bit, then after about 2 hours it was gone again. After a bit of googling this morning set it to channel 6 and it was working fine over the last few hours.

However it looks like there are 3 other networks around me using channel 6 as well so have now set it to channel 11 (is there a particular channel that's best to use or just not whatever anyone else is using?)

Before and after screenshots holding my phone next to the PS3:

[Image: 394876416.jpg] [Image: 394876418.jpg]


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
18-12-2017, 04:30 AM
#27
You should try and stick to channels 1, 6 or 11 if you can. These are the 'standard' channels and can be used without overlapping others. As you can see from your graph, an access point broadcasting on channel 6 overlaps 4-8, but doesn't overlap yours on 11 (which overlaps 9-13). You should always try and pick some free airspace, so channel 11 looks ideal for you for the moment. The first thing you should do if you start having wifi signal problems again is re-run the analyzer and see if something else has appeared on your channel.

Auto channel is meant to pick an uncongested channel, clearly it's not doing that in your case! Interesting to note that you had a better signal on channel 11 as well, almost certainly due to less interference.

Just for info, BT FON, BT Openzone and BtHomeHubwhatever will all be the same access point.
Edited 29-01-2011, 02:07 PM by toxo.
toxo
18-12-2017, 04:30 AM #27

You should try and stick to channels 1, 6 or 11 if you can. These are the 'standard' channels and can be used without overlapping others. As you can see from your graph, an access point broadcasting on channel 6 overlaps 4-8, but doesn't overlap yours on 11 (which overlaps 9-13). You should always try and pick some free airspace, so channel 11 looks ideal for you for the moment. The first thing you should do if you start having wifi signal problems again is re-run the analyzer and see if something else has appeared on your channel.

Auto channel is meant to pick an uncongested channel, clearly it's not doing that in your case! Interesting to note that you had a better signal on channel 11 as well, almost certainly due to less interference.

Just for info, BT FON, BT Openzone and BtHomeHubwhatever will all be the same access point.

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
18-12-2017, 04:39 AM
#28
Have updated my above post a little bit. Also remember that microwaves and DECT cordless phones can affect wifi signal, but only really if they are right next to a wifi device.
toxo
18-12-2017, 04:39 AM #28

Have updated my above post a little bit. Also remember that microwaves and DECT cordless phones can affect wifi signal, but only really if they are right next to a wifi device.

parthiban
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18-12-2017, 04:55 AM
#29
toxo You should try and stick to channels 1, 6 or 11 if you can. These are the 'standard' channels and can be used without overlapping others. As you can see from your graph, an access point broadcasting on channel 6 overlaps 4-8, but doesn't overlap yours on 11 (which overlaps 9-13). You should always try and pick some free airspace, so channel 11 looks ideal for you for the moment. The first thing you should do if you start having wifi signal problems again is re-run the analyzer and see if something else has appeared on your channel.

Auto channel is meant to pick an uncongested channel, clearly it's not doing that in your case! Interesting to note that you had a better signal on channel 11 as well, almost certainly due to less interference.

Just for info, BT FON, BT Openzone and BtHomeHubwhatever will all be the same access point.

Awesome, thanks for all your help mate, I'll keep an eye on this over the next few days and hopefully it's now solved.

Does that mean the router is faulty then, or is it just a quirk of the way it works? Could the router changing channels be confusing the devices using it?

I didn't actually think about the cordless phones, I do actually have one nearby as it's a VOIP one so hooked up to the internet connection also. If the problem persists, I'll try moving that too.


On a separate note, I'm amazed at the difference the gigabit ports on the router have made. Only one of our PCs has a gigabit ethernet card and despite having a distance to the router of around 20m of network cable it is still considerably faster than the PC right next to the router.

I really didn't think there would be such a noticeable difference when the connection is limited by the 10meg broadband speed, but there does appear to be..........

2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]
parthiban
18-12-2017, 04:55 AM #29

toxo You should try and stick to channels 1, 6 or 11 if you can. These are the 'standard' channels and can be used without overlapping others. As you can see from your graph, an access point broadcasting on channel 6 overlaps 4-8, but doesn't overlap yours on 11 (which overlaps 9-13). You should always try and pick some free airspace, so channel 11 looks ideal for you for the moment. The first thing you should do if you start having wifi signal problems again is re-run the analyzer and see if something else has appeared on your channel.

Auto channel is meant to pick an uncongested channel, clearly it's not doing that in your case! Interesting to note that you had a better signal on channel 11 as well, almost certainly due to less interference.

Just for info, BT FON, BT Openzone and BtHomeHubwhatever will all be the same access point.

Awesome, thanks for all your help mate, I'll keep an eye on this over the next few days and hopefully it's now solved.

Does that mean the router is faulty then, or is it just a quirk of the way it works? Could the router changing channels be confusing the devices using it?

I didn't actually think about the cordless phones, I do actually have one nearby as it's a VOIP one so hooked up to the internet connection also. If the problem persists, I'll try moving that too.


On a separate note, I'm amazed at the difference the gigabit ports on the router have made. Only one of our PCs has a gigabit ethernet card and despite having a distance to the router of around 20m of network cable it is still considerably faster than the PC right next to the router.

I really didn't think there would be such a noticeable difference when the connection is limited by the 10meg broadband speed, but there does appear to be..........


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
18-12-2017, 05:00 AM
#30
parthiban Awesome, thanks for all your help mate, I'll keep an eye on this over the next few days and hopefully it's now solved.

Does that mean the router is faulty then, or is it just a quirk of the way it works? Could the router changing channels be confusing the devices using it?

Nah to be honest that sounds like normal behaviour for 'auto channel' functionality! My mum's BT HomeHub does exactly the same thing (except it always picks ch7 so it interferes with everything betwen 6 and 11). If the router chose to change channels while devices were connected to it then they would have to rescan and reconnect.

parthiban I didn't actually think about the cordless phones, I do actually have one nearby as it's a VOIP one so hooked up to the internet connection also. If the problem persists, I'll try moving that too.

They shouldn't make much difference, maybe 5 dBm or so. Every little helps when you're in a very congested area but by the looks of your graph you're not.


parthiban On a separate note, I'm amazed at the difference the gigabit ports on the router have made. Only one of our PCs has a gigabit ethernet card and despite having a distance to the router of around 20m of network cable it is still considerably faster than the PC right next to the router.

I really didn't think there would be such a noticeable difference when the connection is limited by the 10meg broadband speed, but there does appear to be..........

That doesn't sound right at all. Is the other PC generally **** and slow, got lots of addins or toolbars running in the browser or anything? You're absolutely right about the broadband speed being the bottleneck, a 100mbit wire into a 10mbit connection should function at the same speed as a 1000mbit wire into a 10mbit connection.
toxo
18-12-2017, 05:00 AM #30

parthiban Awesome, thanks for all your help mate, I'll keep an eye on this over the next few days and hopefully it's now solved.

Does that mean the router is faulty then, or is it just a quirk of the way it works? Could the router changing channels be confusing the devices using it?

Nah to be honest that sounds like normal behaviour for 'auto channel' functionality! My mum's BT HomeHub does exactly the same thing (except it always picks ch7 so it interferes with everything betwen 6 and 11). If the router chose to change channels while devices were connected to it then they would have to rescan and reconnect.

parthiban I didn't actually think about the cordless phones, I do actually have one nearby as it's a VOIP one so hooked up to the internet connection also. If the problem persists, I'll try moving that too.

They shouldn't make much difference, maybe 5 dBm or so. Every little helps when you're in a very congested area but by the looks of your graph you're not.


parthiban On a separate note, I'm amazed at the difference the gigabit ports on the router have made. Only one of our PCs has a gigabit ethernet card and despite having a distance to the router of around 20m of network cable it is still considerably faster than the PC right next to the router.

I really didn't think there would be such a noticeable difference when the connection is limited by the 10meg broadband speed, but there does appear to be..........

That doesn't sound right at all. Is the other PC generally **** and slow, got lots of addins or toolbars running in the browser or anything? You're absolutely right about the broadband speed being the bottleneck, a 100mbit wire into a 10mbit connection should function at the same speed as a 1000mbit wire into a 10mbit connection.

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