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Is the UniChip a realistic upgrade?

Is the UniChip a realistic upgrade?

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sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
25-05-2018, 10:19 AM
#1
Basically I was looking into N/A tuning for my 1G-FE and finding little or no result from anything.

There's a few things people claim to give minor performance gains, mainly the following:

Decent Cat Back Exhaust
Sports Catalyst
Induction Kit/K&N Filter
De-Cat Manifold

However I was speaking to Mark at TDI about external electronic tuning for the IS200. Namely, the Camcon and UniChip and I was told the following...

"The Camcon offers cam timing and air/fuel ratio optimisation, and the Unichip offers ignition timing and air/fuel ratio adjustment. Ideally you should have both as camshaft and ignition timing are key to performance enhancement"

After our discussion it obviously got him thinking, and he contacted UniChip and asked if you can use one of the outputs to control the VVTi actuator, and it appears you can.

Therefore meaning that a UniChip is now effectively a 2 in 1 enhancement as it performs the role of the CamCon aswell!

So aside from just letting you all know what I found out, I would like to know from anyone who has experience with either of these products or knows about engine tuning on the IS200 etc....

Realistically what sort of performance increase could I expect from an upgrade like that, assuming I had it mapped specifically for 99RON fuel? (I'd also get a 2nd map done for normal fuel incase I wasn't near a shell station at the time)

The only performance (ish) mod I have so far is a K&N panel filter, would any of the mods I listed above in particular be of extra gain to the UniChips capabilities?
Edited 06-07-2011, 07:56 PM by sprinter2012.
sprinter2012
25-05-2018, 10:19 AM #1

Basically I was looking into N/A tuning for my 1G-FE and finding little or no result from anything.

There's a few things people claim to give minor performance gains, mainly the following:

Decent Cat Back Exhaust
Sports Catalyst
Induction Kit/K&N Filter
De-Cat Manifold

However I was speaking to Mark at TDI about external electronic tuning for the IS200. Namely, the Camcon and UniChip and I was told the following...

"The Camcon offers cam timing and air/fuel ratio optimisation, and the Unichip offers ignition timing and air/fuel ratio adjustment. Ideally you should have both as camshaft and ignition timing are key to performance enhancement"

After our discussion it obviously got him thinking, and he contacted UniChip and asked if you can use one of the outputs to control the VVTi actuator, and it appears you can.

Therefore meaning that a UniChip is now effectively a 2 in 1 enhancement as it performs the role of the CamCon aswell!

So aside from just letting you all know what I found out, I would like to know from anyone who has experience with either of these products or knows about engine tuning on the IS200 etc....

Realistically what sort of performance increase could I expect from an upgrade like that, assuming I had it mapped specifically for 99RON fuel? (I'd also get a 2nd map done for normal fuel incase I wasn't near a shell station at the time)

The only performance (ish) mod I have so far is a K&N panel filter, would any of the mods I listed above in particular be of extra gain to the UniChips capabilities?

Dark Samurai
Posting Freak
4,957
25-05-2018, 10:27 AM
#2
Moley has a UniChip still I think.
I think our old HKS Hi-power (not silent hi-power) gave us a tiny little kick more bhp.
We had a K&N FIPK V2 kit on it too, but I think you'd need a decent HKS exhaust and stuff to get any noticeable gains.

Lexus IS300 Sportcross in Platinum Ice.
Click here for garage.

PSN ID: O3107 
Dark Samurai
25-05-2018, 10:27 AM #2

Moley has a UniChip still I think.
I think our old HKS Hi-power (not silent hi-power) gave us a tiny little kick more bhp.
We had a K&N FIPK V2 kit on it too, but I think you'd need a decent HKS exhaust and stuff to get any noticeable gains.


Lexus IS300 Sportcross in Platinum Ice.
Click here for garage.

PSN ID: O3107 

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
25-05-2018, 11:12 AM
#3
Dark Samurai Moley has a UniChip still I think.
I think our old HKS Hi-power (not silent hi-power) gave us a tiny little kick more bhp.
We had a K&N FIPK V2 kit on it too, but I think you'd need a decent HKS exhaust and stuff to get any noticeable gains.

K&N Induction Kit is IS300 specific I think, but I'm in the market for an HKS Exhaust Smile

Gord The standard is200 engine is very hard to get any extra power out of it mate using external electronic tuning, the cost of buying fitting & mapping for just a few extra bhp.

The only way to get that bit more is supercharger or turbo.

ps. 99% of any is200 that Mr Tdi has worked on, he has fooked them up. Im sure others will tell you the same.

Yee I was afraid that was the answer I'd get, essenentially its forced induction or nothing with the 1G-FE I think Sad

Didn't realise there was any bad history with them...probably give that one a miss then. lol
sprinter2012
25-05-2018, 11:12 AM #3

Dark Samurai Moley has a UniChip still I think.
I think our old HKS Hi-power (not silent hi-power) gave us a tiny little kick more bhp.
We had a K&N FIPK V2 kit on it too, but I think you'd need a decent HKS exhaust and stuff to get any noticeable gains.

K&N Induction Kit is IS300 specific I think, but I'm in the market for an HKS Exhaust Smile

Gord The standard is200 engine is very hard to get any extra power out of it mate using external electronic tuning, the cost of buying fitting & mapping for just a few extra bhp.

The only way to get that bit more is supercharger or turbo.

ps. 99% of any is200 that Mr Tdi has worked on, he has fooked them up. Im sure others will tell you the same.

Yee I was afraid that was the answer I'd get, essenentially its forced induction or nothing with the 1G-FE I think Sad

Didn't realise there was any bad history with them...probably give that one a miss then. lol

Moley
Posting Freak
6,230
25-05-2018, 11:19 AM
#4
in my unichip thread there was an IS200 with it fitted showing a dyno graph as proof of bhp...

http://www.outlawjapclub.co.uk/forum/sho...=54&page=8

The dyno chart reads as 164.2BHP, but that's still a 10bhp increase over the stock setup...

I just would not advise you to go to TDI

Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
Moley
25-05-2018, 11:19 AM #4

in my unichip thread there was an IS200 with it fitted showing a dyno graph as proof of bhp...

http://www.outlawjapclub.co.uk/forum/sho...=54&page=8

The dyno chart reads as 164.2BHP, but that's still a 10bhp increase over the stock setup...

I just would not advise you to go to TDI


Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
25-05-2018, 12:34 PM
#5
So nothing wrong with tuning the engine N/A then, just not by them?

Can anyone recommend anywhere around oxfordshire/buckinghamshire that could be relied upon to do a stable tune with it?

And I take it you've sold yours by now Moley?
sprinter2012
25-05-2018, 12:34 PM #5

So nothing wrong with tuning the engine N/A then, just not by them?

Can anyone recommend anywhere around oxfordshire/buckinghamshire that could be relied upon to do a stable tune with it?

And I take it you've sold yours by now Moley?

Stoney
Posting Freak
2,117
25-05-2018, 12:45 PM
#6
Interesting news about the chip being a camcon.

With regard to the other mods, for best results, do all the things on your list above THEN get it mapped.

How mappable is the Unichip? Would it work with an uprated pulley on a charger? (with other supporting fuelling mods.)

TDI do not have a good reputation amongst members here. Most experienced ones would advice against listening to them or letting them near your car. (However they worked on my car before I bought it, and I had no problems with their work.)

[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:
Stoney
25-05-2018, 12:45 PM #6

Interesting news about the chip being a camcon.

With regard to the other mods, for best results, do all the things on your list above THEN get it mapped.

How mappable is the Unichip? Would it work with an uprated pulley on a charger? (with other supporting fuelling mods.)

TDI do not have a good reputation amongst members here. Most experienced ones would advice against listening to them or letting them near your car. (However they worked on my car before I bought it, and I had no problems with their work.)


[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

sprinter2012
Posting Freak
2,484
25-05-2018, 12:54 PM
#7
Stoney With regard to the other mods, for best results, do all the things on your list above THEN get it mapped.

How mappable is the Unichip? Would it work with an uprated pulley on a charger? (with other supporting fuelling mods.)

TDI do not have a good reputation amongst members here. Most experienced ones would advice against listening to them or letting them near your car. (However they worked on my car before I bought it, and I had no problems with their work.)

Yes I did think that would be the right order to do it (although the longest one)

I think its pretty mappable, the UniChip guys have a Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo running about 1000hp off a UniChip so it can't be that bad...

And I would say it would probably be a lot more effective on an FI engine that NA as its got more to play with.
sprinter2012
25-05-2018, 12:54 PM #7

Stoney With regard to the other mods, for best results, do all the things on your list above THEN get it mapped.

How mappable is the Unichip? Would it work with an uprated pulley on a charger? (with other supporting fuelling mods.)

TDI do not have a good reputation amongst members here. Most experienced ones would advice against listening to them or letting them near your car. (However they worked on my car before I bought it, and I had no problems with their work.)

Yes I did think that would be the right order to do it (although the longest one)

I think its pretty mappable, the UniChip guys have a Twin Turbo Lamborghini Gallardo running about 1000hp off a UniChip so it can't be that bad...

And I would say it would probably be a lot more effective on an FI engine that NA as its got more to play with.

B15RUP
Member
180
25-05-2018, 01:18 PM
#8
I have the unichip q+ with my S/C set-up, the fella that done the tuning/map is in Andover. If your interested I could give you the details, or you could check the unichip europe website.

The one and only supercharged IS300! :thumbup:
B15RUP
25-05-2018, 01:18 PM #8

I have the unichip q+ with my S/C set-up, the fella that done the tuning/map is in Andover. If your interested I could give you the details, or you could check the unichip europe website.


The one and only supercharged IS300! :thumbup:

Moley
Posting Freak
6,230
25-05-2018, 02:16 PM
#9
sprinter2012 So nothing wrong with tuning the engine N/A then, just not by them?

Can anyone recommend anywhere around oxfordshire/buckinghamshire that could be relied upon to do a stable tune with it?

And I take it you've sold yours by now Moley?

No its still for sale

Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice
Moley
25-05-2018, 02:16 PM #9

sprinter2012 So nothing wrong with tuning the engine N/A then, just not by them?

Can anyone recommend anywhere around oxfordshire/buckinghamshire that could be relied upon to do a stable tune with it?

And I take it you've sold yours by now Moley?

No its still for sale


Lexus IS200 Mods--TTE Supercharger, Tein Superstreet Coilovers & EDFC, 6000K HID Lights, HKS Silent High Power Exhaust, DBA Front Discs, Kenwood DNX9240 Head Unit, 19" Rims, TRD Kit, FIGS Bonnet Struts, Greddy Pillar Pod & Defi Gauges, TTE Red ARBS . And Been To WIM twice

toxo
Posting Freak
4,843
26-05-2018, 12:20 AM
#10
sprinter2012 So nothing wrong with tuning the engine N/A then, just not by them?

Can anyone recommend anywhere around oxfordshire/buckinghamshire that could be relied upon to do a stable tune with it?

And I take it you've sold yours by now Moley?

Dunno if 2bar do unichips but Ryan is based in this area.
toxo
26-05-2018, 12:20 AM #10

sprinter2012 So nothing wrong with tuning the engine N/A then, just not by them?

Can anyone recommend anywhere around oxfordshire/buckinghamshire that could be relied upon to do a stable tune with it?

And I take it you've sold yours by now Moley?

Dunno if 2bar do unichips but Ryan is based in this area.

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