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My planned sound system upgrade

My planned sound system upgrade

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andymunro
Member
76
13-02-2019, 01:47 PM
#1
Alright guys, after quite some time finding all the bits just about within my budget (well a few quid over actually but I certainly can't spend any more) this is what I've come up with:

I've already ordered the pioneer AVH-4400BT as it's perfect for what I want it to do. The bypass loom, facia and ipod lead are all sorted too and I've already got a sub and separate amp coming out of my previous car.

My concerns are for the front and rear speakers set up:

6.5" Speakers for the front: £19.99
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_...-26506.htm

6.5" 18mm Spacers -

6x9s for the back £38.27
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_...-26753.htm

6x9 18mm Spacers -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MOUNTING-STEREO-...-1-catcorr

4 channel amp £67.99
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/reviews_...-27135.htm

My concerns are these:
Will this amp make a worthwhile sound quality difference? Or is it not worth it considering the head unit I've got to run the speakers from?

Also are 18mm spacers too much or just right on either set?

Thank you in advance for anyone who can give me solid advice on what I've got planned!
andymunro
13-02-2019, 01:47 PM #1

Alright guys, after quite some time finding all the bits just about within my budget (well a few quid over actually but I certainly can't spend any more) this is what I've come up with:

I've already ordered the pioneer AVH-4400BT as it's perfect for what I want it to do. The bypass loom, facia and ipod lead are all sorted too and I've already got a sub and separate amp coming out of my previous car.

My concerns are for the front and rear speakers set up:

6.5" Speakers for the front: £19.99
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_...-26506.htm

6.5" 18mm Spacers -

6x9s for the back £38.27
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/product_...-26753.htm

6x9 18mm Spacers -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MOUNTING-STEREO-...-1-catcorr

4 channel amp £67.99
http://www.caraudiocentre.co.uk/reviews_...-27135.htm

My concerns are these:
Will this amp make a worthwhile sound quality difference? Or is it not worth it considering the head unit I've got to run the speakers from?

Also are 18mm spacers too much or just right on either set?

Thank you in advance for anyone who can give me solid advice on what I've got planned!

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
13-02-2019, 02:10 PM
#2
Firstly save yourself the cash and make the speakers yourself, its pretty easy to do as you just draw round the standard ones.

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Sparkystav
13-02-2019, 02:10 PM #2

Firstly save yourself the cash and make the speakers yourself, its pretty easy to do as you just draw round the standard ones.


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andymunro
Member
76
13-02-2019, 02:26 PM
#3
Do you mean the spacers by any chance sparky?

I tried making spacers for 6x9s years ago to mount them on an old mini parcel shelf, it really didn't turn out well so not looking to do that again, would rather spend the £15 to save a hell of a lot of stress.
andymunro
13-02-2019, 02:26 PM #3

Do you mean the spacers by any chance sparky?

I tried making spacers for 6x9s years ago to mount them on an old mini parcel shelf, it really didn't turn out well so not looking to do that again, would rather spend the £15 to save a hell of a lot of stress.

Stoney
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2,117
14-02-2019, 12:39 AM
#4
I expect he meant spacers. It was rather late at night!

They are very easy to make, however also inexpensive to buy. They should work ok. Though when I last did an IS200 stereo I didn't use any spacers. The fronts just screwed in to the stock speaker mounts (stock speakers where destroyed in order to remove them mind) and the rears just dropped into the holes (which meant removing the boot mechanic and replacing it with a gas strut!)

[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:
Stoney
14-02-2019, 12:39 AM #4

I expect he meant spacers. It was rather late at night!

They are very easy to make, however also inexpensive to buy. They should work ok. Though when I last did an IS200 stereo I didn't use any spacers. The fronts just screwed in to the stock speaker mounts (stock speakers where destroyed in order to remove them mind) and the rears just dropped into the holes (which meant removing the boot mechanic and replacing it with a gas strut!)


[Image: tempsig2.jpg]
Confusedad: It was a tough call to make, but the Supercharged IS200 is being retired. Confusedad:

andymunro
Member
76
14-02-2019, 09:23 AM
#5
Hi Stoneym and yeah it was. Made me chuckle though Smile I've read quite a bit about replacing with a gas strut but it's an expense I'd rather do without.

What do you think about that particular amp with the speakers guys? Is it going to be worth the £70 and all the time spent fitting it?
andymunro
14-02-2019, 09:23 AM #5

Hi Stoneym and yeah it was. Made me chuckle though Smile I've read quite a bit about replacing with a gas strut but it's an expense I'd rather do without.

What do you think about that particular amp with the speakers guys? Is it going to be worth the £70 and all the time spent fitting it?

el_bandido
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2,757
14-02-2019, 09:55 AM
#6
I think you will have to fit an after market amp anyway, the original 6x9's are biwired with different ohm ratings for each section of the speaker.
el_bandido
14-02-2019, 09:55 AM #6

I think you will have to fit an after market amp anyway, the original 6x9's are biwired with different ohm ratings for each section of the speaker.

andymunro
Member
76
14-02-2019, 10:01 AM
#7
I didn't realize that, I thought the bypass loom would have been the straight forward solution to not needing to amp them.

Am I right in assuming the bypass loom is useful only if I keep stock speakers?

The head unit has a sub pre out and front and rear pre outs as well
andymunro
14-02-2019, 10:01 AM #7

I didn't realize that, I thought the bypass loom would have been the straight forward solution to not needing to amp them.

Am I right in assuming the bypass loom is useful only if I keep stock speakers?

The head unit has a sub pre out and front and rear pre outs as well

Lexuspat
Administrator
6,827
14-02-2019, 10:34 AM
#8
if your not planning on refitting the standard front speakers anytime soon you could use the surround for them thats what i did to fit my front speakers.

and for my 6x9s i cut some MDF for the spacers and used the standard speaker as a template fairly easy

[Image: FB_IMG_1474048273787_zpsnbfq6a3s.jpg]

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Lexuspat
14-02-2019, 10:34 AM #8

if your not planning on refitting the standard front speakers anytime soon you could use the surround for them thats what i did to fit my front speakers.

and for my 6x9s i cut some MDF for the spacers and used the standard speaker as a template fairly easy


[Image: FB_IMG_1474048273787_zpsnbfq6a3s.jpg]

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lex2oos
Member
138
14-02-2019, 11:35 AM
#9
el_bandido I think you will have to fit an after market amp anyway, the original 6x9's are biwired with different ohm ratings for each section of the speaker.

he is changing rear speakers

anyway
only premium (8 speaker system) 6x9's had different resistances, since they were 2way speakers.
lex2oos
14-02-2019, 11:35 AM #9

el_bandido I think you will have to fit an after market amp anyway, the original 6x9's are biwired with different ohm ratings for each section of the speaker.

he is changing rear speakers

anyway
only premium (8 speaker system) 6x9's had different resistances, since they were 2way speakers.

Sparkystav
Administrator
14,683
14-02-2019, 11:39 AM
#10
andymunro I didn't realize that, I thought the bypass loom would have been the straight forward solution to not needing to amp them.

Am I right in assuming the bypass loom is useful only if I keep stock speakers?

The head unit has a sub pre out and front and rear pre outs as well

If your using phonos to connect to the amp then the bypass cables not needed, you can get a perm, ign, earth from the normal radio plug and all the sound through the phonos.

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Sparkystav
14-02-2019, 11:39 AM #10

andymunro I didn't realize that, I thought the bypass loom would have been the straight forward solution to not needing to amp them.

Am I right in assuming the bypass loom is useful only if I keep stock speakers?

The head unit has a sub pre out and front and rear pre outs as well

If your using phonos to connect to the amp then the bypass cables not needed, you can get a perm, ign, earth from the normal radio plug and all the sound through the phonos.


OutlawJapClub Admin Team

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