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parthiban
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29-03-2019, 11:07 AM
#31
toxo It'll be graphics card drivers not monitor drivers. I doubt there will be a driver for your TV and even if there is, all it does is list supported resolution & refresh rates (and clock timings and a few other things). This is not applicable with HDMI, DVI or even late VGA connections as they use a thing called DDC to communicate directly with the monitor and interrogate its list of valid resolutions, rather than requiring the driver file.

It may be other power saving related things. Disable them all (hibernate/suspend etc) and see.

Another thought (I'm sure you'd have already checked this) - DVI to HDMI adaptors are pretty bulky and when combined with the weight of an HDMI cable can be a lot to hang off the back of a graphics card. Are all your connections done up tight? I guess you've had the PC out and disconnected everything to install the SSD. I had this with my mum's media PC when she got her HD panel, ended up replacing adaptor + cable with a direct DVI to HDMI cable.

Ahh that makes sense. I hadn't previously installed a graphics driver, just let windows do its thing. Have now installed the driver (well a legacy vista one, there isn't a win7 one for my card) but still hasn't made a difference. I've already disabled all power saving so it's currently in "everything always on" mode.

I've checked it's in nice and tight, but that's a good point, I might try changing the cable to a proper DVI to HDMI cable in case it's the cable itself that might be causing this. Given that it was fine before and not now it does seem like it might be driver related but not sure what I can do without replacing the graphics card with something a bit newer.

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parthiban
29-03-2019, 11:07 AM #31

toxo It'll be graphics card drivers not monitor drivers. I doubt there will be a driver for your TV and even if there is, all it does is list supported resolution & refresh rates (and clock timings and a few other things). This is not applicable with HDMI, DVI or even late VGA connections as they use a thing called DDC to communicate directly with the monitor and interrogate its list of valid resolutions, rather than requiring the driver file.

It may be other power saving related things. Disable them all (hibernate/suspend etc) and see.

Another thought (I'm sure you'd have already checked this) - DVI to HDMI adaptors are pretty bulky and when combined with the weight of an HDMI cable can be a lot to hang off the back of a graphics card. Are all your connections done up tight? I guess you've had the PC out and disconnected everything to install the SSD. I had this with my mum's media PC when she got her HD panel, ended up replacing adaptor + cable with a direct DVI to HDMI cable.

Ahh that makes sense. I hadn't previously installed a graphics driver, just let windows do its thing. Have now installed the driver (well a legacy vista one, there isn't a win7 one for my card) but still hasn't made a difference. I've already disabled all power saving so it's currently in "everything always on" mode.

I've checked it's in nice and tight, but that's a good point, I might try changing the cable to a proper DVI to HDMI cable in case it's the cable itself that might be causing this. Given that it was fine before and not now it does seem like it might be driver related but not sure what I can do without replacing the graphics card with something a bit newer.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

parthiban
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18-04-2019, 09:50 PM
#32
Ok so this is all up and running on the SSD now so put my old hard drive back in and formatted it.

How do I move the user folders on to the hard drive? Is that even possible?

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parthiban
18-04-2019, 09:50 PM #32

Ok so this is all up and running on the SSD now so put my old hard drive back in and formatted it.

How do I move the user folders on to the hard drive? Is that even possible?


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toxo
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19-04-2019, 12:26 AM
#33
There are a few different ways to do it, none of which are foolproof. You can for example just move 'special' folders such as Documents, Pictures etc. Or you can fool windows into thinking the folder is still on the C: drive when it is infact redirected at a lower level.

See http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/2009/0...her-drive/
toxo
19-04-2019, 12:26 AM #33

There are a few different ways to do it, none of which are foolproof. You can for example just move 'special' folders such as Documents, Pictures etc. Or you can fool windows into thinking the folder is still on the C: drive when it is infact redirected at a lower level.

See http://www.starkeith.net/coredump/2009/0...her-drive/

sprinter2012
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19-04-2019, 03:55 AM
#34
The way I did it is just relocate the folder using the 'location' tab.

Just make a new series of folder in the HDD, that goes, USER>"Your Username">and then all the folders like pictures, music, documents, downloads etc.

You then go into your SSD folders, right click on a folder you want to move, go to the 'location' tab and just change the drive letter from C: to whatever your HDD is (in my case, it was HSmile

Then just copy all the documents into their relevant folder.

[Image: Untitled.jpg]

EDIT: Just looked at the link Toxo posted and it's basically a much more detailed explanation of how to do the method I said. lol
Edited 30-05-2012, 01:32 PM by sprinter2012.
sprinter2012
19-04-2019, 03:55 AM #34

The way I did it is just relocate the folder using the 'location' tab.

Just make a new series of folder in the HDD, that goes, USER>"Your Username">and then all the folders like pictures, music, documents, downloads etc.

You then go into your SSD folders, right click on a folder you want to move, go to the 'location' tab and just change the drive letter from C: to whatever your HDD is (in my case, it was HSmile

Then just copy all the documents into their relevant folder.

[Image: Untitled.jpg]

EDIT: Just looked at the link Toxo posted and it's basically a much more detailed explanation of how to do the method I said. lol

toxo
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19-04-2019, 04:46 AM
#35
No it's not Smile It starts with an explanation about why what you've done doesn't always have the desired effect... but is much much easier.
toxo
19-04-2019, 04:46 AM #35

No it's not Smile It starts with an explanation about why what you've done doesn't always have the desired effect... but is much much easier.

sprinter2012
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19-04-2019, 04:58 AM
#36
toxo No it's not Smile It starts with an explanation about why what you've done doesn't always have the desired effect... but is much much easier.

So it isn't. lol I just scrolled down, saw the first screen shot exactly the same as the one I posted and thought it must be the same. I guess maybe I should read things and not just look at the pictures :lol:
Edited 30-05-2012, 02:32 PM by sprinter2012.
sprinter2012
19-04-2019, 04:58 AM #36

toxo No it's not Smile It starts with an explanation about why what you've done doesn't always have the desired effect... but is much much easier.

So it isn't. lol I just scrolled down, saw the first screen shot exactly the same as the one I posted and thought it must be the same. I guess maybe I should read things and not just look at the pictures :lol:

parthiban
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19-04-2019, 10:20 AM
#37
Thanks guys, I knew about just changing folder locations but it's the method Toxo linked about moving the entire user profile that I was thinking about.

Although having a quick skim read of that it does look a bit involved, I'll have to sit down when I'm less tired and read through it carefully to see if it's a good idea to have a go or whether I should just go for the simpler option.

In reality my "My Documents" doesn't usually have that much in it so could really stay on the SSD, it's the "public" folder that's larger so I could just move those folders and leave the rest as is.
Edited 30-05-2012, 08:00 PM by parthiban.

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parthiban
19-04-2019, 10:20 AM #37

Thanks guys, I knew about just changing folder locations but it's the method Toxo linked about moving the entire user profile that I was thinking about.

Although having a quick skim read of that it does look a bit involved, I'll have to sit down when I'm less tired and read through it carefully to see if it's a good idea to have a go or whether I should just go for the simpler option.

In reality my "My Documents" doesn't usually have that much in it so could really stay on the SSD, it's the "public" folder that's larger so I could just move those folders and leave the rest as is.


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

FirebirdPhil
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19-04-2019, 10:26 AM
#38
May be slightly off topic and probably a stupid question - I await :Overkill: for this:

Why are hard drives built the way they are and not more like SD cards - for example my phone has 32GB on a tiny little micro SD card, why is a PC hard drive so blooming big and well slow by comparisonBlush

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FirebirdPhil
19-04-2019, 10:26 AM #38

May be slightly off topic and probably a stupid question - I await :Overkill: for this:

Why are hard drives built the way they are and not more like SD cards - for example my phone has 32GB on a tiny little micro SD card, why is a PC hard drive so blooming big and well slow by comparisonBlush


"Life's goal is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well preserved body. But, rather to skid in sideways........
totally worn out and broken, shouting 'Holy ****, WHAT A RIDE!'"

parthiban
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19-04-2019, 10:31 AM
#39
FirebirdPhil May be slightly off topic and probably a stupid question - I await :Overkill: for this:

Why are hard drives built the way they are and not more like SD cards - for example my phone has 32GB on a tiny little micro SD card, why is a PC hard drive so blooming big and well slow by comparisonBlush

It's just about using standard sizes isn't it? I know my Macbook air has the below in it so it is possible to be a lot smaller in more custom installations.

[Image: macbook-air-flash-memory.jpg]

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parthiban
19-04-2019, 10:31 AM #39

FirebirdPhil May be slightly off topic and probably a stupid question - I await :Overkill: for this:

Why are hard drives built the way they are and not more like SD cards - for example my phone has 32GB on a tiny little micro SD card, why is a PC hard drive so blooming big and well slow by comparisonBlush

It's just about using standard sizes isn't it? I know my Macbook air has the below in it so it is possible to be a lot smaller in more custom installations.

[Image: macbook-air-flash-memory.jpg]


2002 '02' IS200 SE Auto - DVD Satnav with Voice Activation - [COLOR="Blue"]Strathcaron Blue - Parking Sensors - 5000K HIDs with Anti-Glare Bulbs - PIAA 6500K Main Beams - LED Sidelights - Mirror/Sunroof Closure - TTE Styling Kit - 18" Styling Kit Alloys with nitrogen filled Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Tyres - Bluetouch Multimedia Kit - Gromaudio AUX in - Black painted calipers with silver Lexus decals - 12 LED Dome Light - 96 LED Boot Light - Stainless Steel Sport Sill Plates - PIAA Silicone Wipers[/COLOR]

toxo
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19-04-2019, 11:59 AM
#40
FirebirdPhil Why are hard drives built the way they are and not more like SD cards - for example my phone has 32GB on a tiny little micro SD card, why is a PC hard drive so blooming big and well slow by comparisonBlush

There are a lot of things in computing that date back to the 60s - things we are slowly shedding like floppy drives, the x86 BIOS, hard drives are the next thing to go. They used to be a lot bigger - think 2 CD drives on top of each other for the first home user hard drives, and bigger for commercial installations. But they all fundamentally work in the same way as they have since the 60s, because it's established, easy, proven.

Slowly but surely we are losing moving parts from computing which can only be a good thing. The problem with SD cards and USB memory sticks is that they're slow! But memory chips are getting faster.

It will be interesting to see what the major manufacturers will do when the computers they're shipping now with SSDs start to wear out - flash chips only have a certain number of reads & writes they can do per sector before that sector wears out.
toxo
19-04-2019, 11:59 AM #40

FirebirdPhil Why are hard drives built the way they are and not more like SD cards - for example my phone has 32GB on a tiny little micro SD card, why is a PC hard drive so blooming big and well slow by comparisonBlush

There are a lot of things in computing that date back to the 60s - things we are slowly shedding like floppy drives, the x86 BIOS, hard drives are the next thing to go. They used to be a lot bigger - think 2 CD drives on top of each other for the first home user hard drives, and bigger for commercial installations. But they all fundamentally work in the same way as they have since the 60s, because it's established, easy, proven.

Slowly but surely we are losing moving parts from computing which can only be a good thing. The problem with SD cards and USB memory sticks is that they're slow! But memory chips are getting faster.

It will be interesting to see what the major manufacturers will do when the computers they're shipping now with SSDs start to wear out - flash chips only have a certain number of reads & writes they can do per sector before that sector wears out.

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