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parthiban
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17-08-2016, 02:46 AM
#11
N2KHL orange have 'given' away phones worth more than the iphone in the past if you are on the right deal etc etc I have never paid for a phone in the past few years and all have been smartphones of some description i would hope i wouldnt have to pay for an iphone either !!!

Yep the question wouldn't be whether Orange could/would subsidise the handset (as the answer to that would be easy), the question is more whether Apple will let them do that as the other manufacturers do.

The problem for Apple is that if iPhone pricing goes the way of normal mobile phones, they will be screwed in terms of the iPod Touch as there would be absolutely no reason to buy it.

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parthiban
17-08-2016, 02:46 AM #11

N2KHL orange have 'given' away phones worth more than the iphone in the past if you are on the right deal etc etc I have never paid for a phone in the past few years and all have been smartphones of some description i would hope i wouldnt have to pay for an iphone either !!!

Yep the question wouldn't be whether Orange could/would subsidise the handset (as the answer to that would be easy), the question is more whether Apple will let them do that as the other manufacturers do.

The problem for Apple is that if iPhone pricing goes the way of normal mobile phones, they will be screwed in terms of the iPod Touch as there would be absolutely no reason to buy it.


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N2KHL
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17-08-2016, 02:54 AM
#12
ah yeah i knwo what you are saying but i would be loathed to have to shell out more wonga over what i already do for the iphone but in saying that i have pre-registered my interest lets see what happens !!! Aside from the iphone im keeping my eyes also on the nokia n900 and wanna see if that comes out on orange too.

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N2KHL
17-08-2016, 02:54 AM #12

ah yeah i knwo what you are saying but i would be loathed to have to shell out more wonga over what i already do for the iphone but in saying that i have pre-registered my interest lets see what happens !!! Aside from the iphone im keeping my eyes also on the nokia n900 and wanna see if that comes out on orange too.


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Saraj
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17-08-2016, 02:58 AM
#13
If it does affect prices, I hope it does in the next 3 months ! so I can afford to buy one lol

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Saraj
17-08-2016, 02:58 AM #13

If it does affect prices, I hope it does in the next 3 months ! so I can afford to buy one lol


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August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
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redz
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17-08-2016, 03:00 AM
#14
think youve answered your own questions..

look at mac mini - macbook - macpro..

it will be free, on certain tarrifs, just like it is on o2. upgrades will be based on partly on ARPU and COST price of phone. this can be very diff to the retail place and in some cases the retail can be less than the costs based on revenue share deals, as is the current o2/apple deal.

retail loses on each iphone contract that is sold but there are revenue share deals based on arpu that give 'commission' back. some of this is based on airtime and some based on app sales..

the iphone changed the face of how the mobile industry and manufacturers prices and retains a continuous revenue stream.

just look at vodaphone 360 to see how they influenced the marketplace

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redz
17-08-2016, 03:00 AM #14

think youve answered your own questions..

look at mac mini - macbook - macpro..

it will be free, on certain tarrifs, just like it is on o2. upgrades will be based on partly on ARPU and COST price of phone. this can be very diff to the retail place and in some cases the retail can be less than the costs based on revenue share deals, as is the current o2/apple deal.

retail loses on each iphone contract that is sold but there are revenue share deals based on arpu that give 'commission' back. some of this is based on airtime and some based on app sales..

the iphone changed the face of how the mobile industry and manufacturers prices and retains a continuous revenue stream.

just look at vodaphone 360 to see how they influenced the marketplace


LEXUS IS200 Sport Navigator - 140.8db

Kenwood DNX 8220 BT - Custom OEM Screen Conversion - PS2 - Epic 150

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N2KHL
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17-08-2016, 03:03 AM
#15
i usually go to orange retentions once im out of contract and threaten to leave to get a good deal Wink

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N2KHL
17-08-2016, 03:03 AM #15

i usually go to orange retentions once im out of contract and threaten to leave to get a good deal Wink


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Saraj
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17-08-2016, 03:06 AM
#16
N2KHL i usually go to orange retentions once im out of contract and threaten to leave to get a good deal Wink

does that actually work?

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August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]
Saraj
17-08-2016, 03:06 AM #16

N2KHL i usually go to orange retentions once im out of contract and threaten to leave to get a good deal Wink

does that actually work?


[COLOR="Gray"]December 2008: Crashed Lexus IS200 - Cat B Write Off
August 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Minor Damage DIY Repair
November 2009: Crashed Vauxhall Astra - Scratches To Bumper No Repair Required
February 2010: Other Party Crashed Into Astra - Extensive Damage To Rear -Settled With Third Party's Insurance
Anyone dare To Predict The Future?[/COLOR]

N2KHL
Member
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17-08-2016, 03:11 AM
#17
i havent paid for a phone for as long as i can remeber !! i have a nokia 95 8gig thats gonna need to be replaced but previous i have the sony ericsson p990/900 and 800 all for free on orange.

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N2KHL
17-08-2016, 03:11 AM #17

i havent paid for a phone for as long as i can remeber !! i have a nokia 95 8gig thats gonna need to be replaced but previous i have the sony ericsson p990/900 and 800 all for free on orange.


[Image: NiksLex.jpg]

redz
Member
245
17-08-2016, 03:11 AM
#18
In Western Europe, revenue per connection has been falling by 5.4% over the last three years hence the decline in handsets for free and poorer upgrade deals.

most retention teams now have a 'ceiling'.. i hope you get what your after but i have found that even retention teams have there limits now..

LEXUS IS200 Sport Navigator - 140.8db

Kenwood DNX 8220 BT - Custom OEM Screen Conversion - PS2 - Epic 150

Front: MB Quart QSC216 / Centre: MB Quart PKH110 / Rear:MB Quart RUA213 / Sub: MB Quart PWH 302 x 2 / AMPS: JL 1000/1 - JL 300/4
redz
17-08-2016, 03:11 AM #18

In Western Europe, revenue per connection has been falling by 5.4% over the last three years hence the decline in handsets for free and poorer upgrade deals.

most retention teams now have a 'ceiling'.. i hope you get what your after but i have found that even retention teams have there limits now..


LEXUS IS200 Sport Navigator - 140.8db

Kenwood DNX 8220 BT - Custom OEM Screen Conversion - PS2 - Epic 150

Front: MB Quart QSC216 / Centre: MB Quart PKH110 / Rear:MB Quart RUA213 / Sub: MB Quart PWH 302 x 2 / AMPS: JL 1000/1 - JL 300/4

parthiban
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17-08-2016, 03:16 AM
#19
redz most retention teams now have a 'ceiling'.. i hope you get what your after but i have found that even retention teams have there limits now..

Yep I found this out when I upgraded, in the past I've been able to any handset for free on a 12 month contract, this year I had to pay £50 for the phone but still on a 12 month contract so not a huge issue.

I'm not denying anything you've said as it's all been correct, but the simple truth is that if there's no agreement then Orange and O2 will surely start a pricing war to make sure one sells more units than the other.

Obviously this isn't in Apple's best interests though so I'm sure they've done something to prevent it.

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parthiban
17-08-2016, 03:16 AM #19

redz most retention teams now have a 'ceiling'.. i hope you get what your after but i have found that even retention teams have there limits now..

Yep I found this out when I upgraded, in the past I've been able to any handset for free on a 12 month contract, this year I had to pay £50 for the phone but still on a 12 month contract so not a huge issue.

I'm not denying anything you've said as it's all been correct, but the simple truth is that if there's no agreement then Orange and O2 will surely start a pricing war to make sure one sells more units than the other.

Obviously this isn't in Apple's best interests though so I'm sure they've done something to prevent it.


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Fry-Up
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17-08-2016, 11:08 AM
#20
being as I work for Orange I feel I should offer a couple of words too

the iphone was only exclusive to O2 in this country and Orange already offers it in 28 other countries, one idea is have a look abroad at the deals offered on both Orange and O2 and see how they compare, if Orange give better deals there then they may do here when we get it

i'm waiting for the Nokia N900 tho and thats available for pre-order direct from Nokia now
Fry-Up
17-08-2016, 11:08 AM #20

being as I work for Orange I feel I should offer a couple of words too

the iphone was only exclusive to O2 in this country and Orange already offers it in 28 other countries, one idea is have a look abroad at the deals offered on both Orange and O2 and see how they compare, if Orange give better deals there then they may do here when we get it

i'm waiting for the Nokia N900 tho and thats available for pre-order direct from Nokia now

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