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My little project - IS200 Turbo

My little project - IS200 Turbo

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steviewevie
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7,993
12-01-2019, 04:00 AM
Yeah having installation instructions was a pretty major plus for the Toad in my view.


Back on the whole ECU thing, I don't have a lot of photos of the whole process, but here are a couple of Ed busy mapping my Syvecs :

[Image: IMG_0699.jpg]

[Image: IMG_0467-1.jpg]


There certainly seem to be a lot of options you can configure ! Most of it has 3D graphs to help show the mapper what it's doing. Lots of datalogging (even configuring that is quite complicated, you can tell it exactly which parameters to log and at what thresholds, e.g. you might not want it to log anything till the revs go over a certain point, certain level of boost, etc, etc).

The cable (which is an Ethernet LAN cable) connected to Ed's laptop in the picture is now routed to my glovebox, so you can plug in a laptop from there for on-the-road mapping/tweaking.
Edited 23-02-2012, 01:35 PM by steviewevie.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
12-01-2019, 04:00 AM #1,261

Yeah having installation instructions was a pretty major plus for the Toad in my view.


Back on the whole ECU thing, I don't have a lot of photos of the whole process, but here are a couple of Ed busy mapping my Syvecs :

[Image: IMG_0699.jpg]

[Image: IMG_0467-1.jpg]


There certainly seem to be a lot of options you can configure ! Most of it has 3D graphs to help show the mapper what it's doing. Lots of datalogging (even configuring that is quite complicated, you can tell it exactly which parameters to log and at what thresholds, e.g. you might not want it to log anything till the revs go over a certain point, certain level of boost, etc, etc).

The cable (which is an Ethernet LAN cable) connected to Ed's laptop in the picture is now routed to my glovebox, so you can plug in a laptop from there for on-the-road mapping/tweaking.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
12-01-2019, 04:04 AM
Next day I popped down to Fusion and I drove the car ! This was a pretty exciting point, to be able to actually drive it after so much complicated work on the electronics.

The car was quite rough at first, but Ed tweaked it somewhat, including altering the drive-by-wire settings to make the throttle a lot less "on/off". It got a lot better with a few tweaks. It seemed to be over-fuelling, but that was something for Ed to look into. I was happy with the progress so far, I wasn't expecting it to be perfect on a first drive, it was good that it actually did drive at all !

Ed reported that only one (out of four) of the ABS sensors seemed to be giving the "right" data to the Syvecs, the others gave spurious readings. Again, something for further investigation.

The cal switch was now working properly too, giving seven different settings (so different maps or parameters could be selected, e.g. boost levels, TRC levels).

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
12-01-2019, 04:04 AM #1,262

Next day I popped down to Fusion and I drove the car ! This was a pretty exciting point, to be able to actually drive it after so much complicated work on the electronics.

The car was quite rough at first, but Ed tweaked it somewhat, including altering the drive-by-wire settings to make the throttle a lot less "on/off". It got a lot better with a few tweaks. It seemed to be over-fuelling, but that was something for Ed to look into. I was happy with the progress so far, I wasn't expecting it to be perfect on a first drive, it was good that it actually did drive at all !

Ed reported that only one (out of four) of the ABS sensors seemed to be giving the "right" data to the Syvecs, the others gave spurious readings. Again, something for further investigation.

The cal switch was now working properly too, giving seven different settings (so different maps or parameters could be selected, e.g. boost levels, TRC levels).


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

el_bandido
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2,757
12-01-2019, 04:15 AM
I can't wait to see this on the dyno Big Grin
el_bandido
12-01-2019, 04:15 AM #1,263

I can't wait to see this on the dyno Big Grin

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
12-01-2019, 05:07 AM
We are getting close to the dyno run/results Big Grin

But after that I have tons more to post concerning getting the other bits working, fine-tuning etc !

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
12-01-2019, 05:07 AM #1,264

We are getting close to the dyno run/results Big Grin

But after that I have tons more to post concerning getting the other bits working, fine-tuning etc !


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

el_bandido
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2,757
12-01-2019, 05:28 AM
if you don't mind me asking, how much is it costing you to get all this wiring done?
el_bandido
12-01-2019, 05:28 AM #1,265

if you don't mind me asking, how much is it costing you to get all this wiring done?

toxo
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4,843
12-01-2019, 05:36 AM
Don't worry Stevie, some of us are interested in more than just numbers Wink
toxo
12-01-2019, 05:36 AM #1,266

Don't worry Stevie, some of us are interested in more than just numbers Wink

el_bandido
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2,757
12-01-2019, 06:08 AM
toxo Don't worry Stevie, some of us are interested in more than just numbers Wink

So am I, but I can't say "how much ******* awesome does it have?" can I :p

I'm just interested to see what the 1g-fe is actually capable of.
el_bandido
12-01-2019, 06:08 AM #1,267

toxo Don't worry Stevie, some of us are interested in more than just numbers Wink

So am I, but I can't say "how much ******* awesome does it have?" can I :p

I'm just interested to see what the 1g-fe is actually capable of.

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
12-01-2019, 10:28 PM
Well, of course it wasn't cheap. I would rather not say exactly how much, but Ed did me a very good deal considering how much time he spent working on issues to get it all working (which I haven't all been through here yet, still bringing things up to date). If he did a similar job to someone else's IS200 then of course he could do it a lot more easily given what has been learned from my car.

As for what the 1G-FE is capable of, then I feel that there are other cars that demonstrate this a lot better, e.g. Almost Finished's car. My aims were never for outright power as the primary objective, e.g. I have the smallest turbo on an IS200 in the world as far as I am aware ! (Smaller turbo = less lag)

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
12-01-2019, 10:28 PM #1,268

Well, of course it wasn't cheap. I would rather not say exactly how much, but Ed did me a very good deal considering how much time he spent working on issues to get it all working (which I haven't all been through here yet, still bringing things up to date). If he did a similar job to someone else's IS200 then of course he could do it a lot more easily given what has been learned from my car.

As for what the 1G-FE is capable of, then I feel that there are other cars that demonstrate this a lot better, e.g. Almost Finished's car. My aims were never for outright power as the primary objective, e.g. I have the smallest turbo on an IS200 in the world as far as I am aware ! (Smaller turbo = less lag)


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

steviewevie
Posting Freak
7,993
12-01-2019, 11:57 PM
Next day, I ordered the Toad alarm. Ed told me he'd managed to get 2 ABS sensors giving the right signals to the Syvecs (this was partly to get the traction control working from the new ECU).

The day after, I spoke to Ed again and he'd been taking the aircon apart, to see what needed to be done to get that working again. Many of the ancilliary functions on the IS200 are controlled via a multiplex (MPX) bus, which potentially makes things very complicated (i.e. since multiple signals travel down the wires at the same times, as opposed to a simple "apply a bit of voltage to turn it on" approach). Ed suspected the MPX system was involved in turning the aircon on, and he also thought this may well be why the coolant temp gauge wasn't working (i.e. since the stock ECU had been removed and so its role in the MPX system was missing).

I did some research into this, and there seems to be very little/no information on the web that I could find relating to the IS200, in terms of how the MPX system works. I did find a small amount of information on something called BEAN (I kid you not) from Toyota, including an academic paper. BEAN is the Body Electronic Area Network (see http://papers.sae.org/970297/ ). It appears to be around the right sort of timeframe (1997) for the IS200/Altezza, and the right sort of system. But it is only a guess by me that this could be the basis of the IS200's system. Before anyone gets too excited, I have to report that we didn't make any further progress on the MPX system, and worked around issues rather than cracking how to interface with it.
Edited 24-02-2012, 09:33 AM by steviewevie.

[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !
steviewevie
12-01-2019, 11:57 PM #1,269

Next day, I ordered the Toad alarm. Ed told me he'd managed to get 2 ABS sensors giving the right signals to the Syvecs (this was partly to get the traction control working from the new ECU).

The day after, I spoke to Ed again and he'd been taking the aircon apart, to see what needed to be done to get that working again. Many of the ancilliary functions on the IS200 are controlled via a multiplex (MPX) bus, which potentially makes things very complicated (i.e. since multiple signals travel down the wires at the same times, as opposed to a simple "apply a bit of voltage to turn it on" approach). Ed suspected the MPX system was involved in turning the aircon on, and he also thought this may well be why the coolant temp gauge wasn't working (i.e. since the stock ECU had been removed and so its role in the MPX system was missing).

I did some research into this, and there seems to be very little/no information on the web that I could find relating to the IS200, in terms of how the MPX system works. I did find a small amount of information on something called BEAN (I kid you not) from Toyota, including an academic paper. BEAN is the Body Electronic Area Network (see http://papers.sae.org/970297/ ). It appears to be around the right sort of timeframe (1997) for the IS200/Altezza, and the right sort of system. But it is only a guess by me that this could be the basis of the IS200's system. Before anyone gets too excited, I have to report that we didn't make any further progress on the MPX system, and worked around issues rather than cracking how to interface with it.


[Image: Sig-enginebay.jpg]
IS200 Turbo project now just about complete ! See my thread here and leave your comments.
Now running standalone Syvecs ECU and no stock ECU !

Almost Finished
Senior Member
462
13-01-2019, 01:22 AM
This is an excellent write up Stevie :thumbup:
Almost Finished
13-01-2019, 01:22 AM #1,270

This is an excellent write up Stevie :thumbup:

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